The Original Hellfire Club vs X-Men

Originally posted by Survivor19
I've had enough of that almighty nannites bullsh%t, Battlehammer.
We are using TO-infected Pierce that is in X-Brig now, with power level shown in Young X-Men.
No nannites.

HF still wins the majority, though...

P.S. Funny thing is, Archangel in berserker rage can possibly solo HF in significant amount of scenaries IMO. Go figure )))

Dont get mad that ability he shown, and it within his powers.

No he cant archangle stands zero stance of soloing, unless your delusional. God archangle one of the most overrated guys. here a several HF guys who would utterly destroy him in a fight. also it not a berserker rage. It just a rage.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Shadow Cat's phasing isnt electrically based. I dont believe its ever really been explained how she does it. And did my eyes decieve me, or did BH call someone else a hypocrite? If we are allowed to use abilities that have been shown like once, then I declare that from now on Namor is allowed to shoot electric blasts from his hands and control water with some weird form of TK

The difference with Namor and pierce, is pierce power set changes everytime he apeares on pannel, becuase he constantly upgrading his abilities. Namors doesent. So him displaying a single power one or even twice is not the same thing as pierce. Not to mention pierce has about a handful of showings lol

Yes you are a hypocrit. Your yelling at me for using a one tiem example which it wasent, it was in several issues while you on the other hand uses one example of Shaw hitting off pierces head as evidence for kitty powers working against him.

Originally posted by TheKahn
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How exactly? I think Jean can hold her on against Emma and Cyclops has the most damaging attack that could be unleashed in the first moments of the fight.

Jean will be too busy with Emma, Mastermind takes out the others with ease.

If the nannites arnt allowed in this thread, I dont care either way.

As for khan question they worked instantly.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Jean will be too busy with Emma, Mastermind takes out the others with ease.

also depending on what version of pierce we uses, he can fly and shot range attacks.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
also woudlent scot blast jsut super charge shaw into unstopable monster.

also depending on what version of pierce we uses, he can fly and shot range attacks.

not if he did it right, which he has done before.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
also woudlent scot blast jsut super charge shaw into unstopable monster.

I think so. That's what happened in the DPS isn't it?

Originally posted by -Pr-
not if he did it right, which he has done before.

When was this? You mean the floor?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Jean will be too busy with Emma, Mastermind takes out the others with ease.

Jean > Emma (both in TP and thanks to Jean's TK) and I'm still not sure how Mastermind and some of the others can survive an initial room clearing blast by Scott.

Originally posted by -Pr-
not if he did it right, which he has done before.

Even if Scott did supercharge Shaw while clearing out some of the less durable HC, there is still Shadow Cat and Jean to put him down.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Jean > Emma (both in TP and thanks to Jean's TK) and I'm still not sure how Mastermind and some of the others can survive an initial room clearing blast by Scott.

Not sans Phoenix Jean. And if Exodus who has knocked Jean sans Phoenix telepathically on her ass twice was unable to deploy his telekinesis against Emma then what makes you think Jean will be able to? It'll end up being an astral fighta and Jean will be too preocuppied with Emma to protect her teammates from Jason.

Masterminds powers work at the speed of thought as well.

Originally posted by -Pr-
not if he did it right, which he has done before.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I think so. That's what happened in the DPS isn't it?

Originally posted by TheKahn
Even if Scott did supercharge Shaw while clearing out some of the less durable HC, there is still Shadow Cat and Jean to put him down.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I not sure to be honest, I havent read it in a while I need to re read it.

I read it a month ago, I'm pretty sure it happened.

Cyclops GOML's the entire Hellfire Club, supercharging Shaw but KO's/kills everyone else. Jean mindrapes Shaw.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Actaully it is form of eletrical disturbance, same way vision power works.

The difference with Namor and pierce, is pierce power set changes everytime he apeares on pannel, becuase he constantly upgrading his abilities. Namors doesent. So him displaying a single power one or even twice is not the same thing as pierce. Not to mention pierce has about a handful of showings lol

Yes you are a hypocrit. Your yelling at me for using a one tiem example which it wasent, it was in several issues while you on the other hand uses one example of Shaw hitting off pierces head as evidence for kitty powers working against him.

My bad for not putting it more simply, I sometime forget who Im talking to. Show me something that says her phase ability works like Vision's. Thats just your own speculation. And I thought it was pretty clear I mentioned the Shaw situation as a means to show that he is far from indestructable.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Even if Scott did supercharge Shaw while clearing out some of the less durable HC, there is still Shadow Cat and Jean to put him down.

true.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I think so. That's what happened in the DPS isn't it?

When was this? You mean the floor?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
There no way to do it right, it kentic energy. Unless you can prove other wises.

Here:

i see no reason why it wouldn't work.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Cyclops GOML's the entire Hellfire Club, supercharging Shaw but KO's/kills everyone else. Jean mindrapes Shaw.

Originally posted by -Pr-
true.

Here:

i see no reason why it wouldn't work.

You're going to knock him over and make him stronger? 😕 There's no lake to knock him into here he burnt most of his energy swimming back and Emma/Storm hit him with a lightning bolt which overloaded him IRRC.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
You're going to knock him over and make him stronger? 😕 There's no lake to knock him into here he burnt most of his energy swimming back and Emma/Storm hit him with a lightning bolt which overloaded him IRRC.

it's a small blast, so any amp is negligible, and the OP said nothing about no BFR.😛