Originally posted by -Pr-idk.......but namor has ripped them aparts like common thugs.....
the sunlight only powers the dimensional gateway in his eyes. it doesn't take THAT much out of him.and he's not shown firing because when he uses his uber blast, there's rarely anyone else to shoot once he's done firing.
average level blasts from cyclops have been sufficient enough to destroy sentinels. aren't they around the 60 ton mark?
Originally posted by namorsubby
idk.......but namor has ripped them aparts like common thugs.....
Originally posted by TheKahniirc, bryan singer (director of x-men/x2) said his optic blast is like "having a fire hydrant/hose attached to his face."
hmmThere is a significant difference between the two isn't there? Assuming the total force is even, a 100 ton punch would be like getting hit in the hand with a hammer - while Cyclops' blast would be like getting your hand crushed in a vice. Its a temporary force vs a constant one (assuming Cyke keeps his eyes open that is).
Originally posted by -Pr-
i never disputed that.
what i meant was if a regular sentinel is a 60 tonner....they should pose at least some kind of threat to the 100 class namor, right? and if the sentinels that namor ripped apart easily are even more powerful then the ones you mentioned......idk if cyke being able to take the other ones out with an average attack matters.......seeing as the advanced ones are in no way any kind of match for namor.
Originally posted by namorsubby
sorry, i really wasn't clear in terms of elaborating on what i think that implies:what i meant was if a regular sentinel is a 60 tonner....they should pose at least some kind of threat to the 100 class namor, right? and if the sentinels that namor ripped apart easily are even more powerful then the ones you mentioned......idk if cyke being able to take the other ones out with an average attack matters.......seeing as the advanced ones are in no way any kind of match for namor.
my point was simply that cyclops can and has put down people in that range, and above if we're assuming Ord/that big monster from 33 has comparable strength to Colossus...
Originally posted by -Pr-wow.........that was extemely cool(i just saw it now) 😱
my point was simply that cyclops can and has put down people in that range, and above if we're assuming Ord/that big monster from 33 has comparable strength to Colossus...
idk what that thing is, but if it has comparable strength to colossus, it probably doesn't possess comparable durability.......i can't see syke splitting him in half with any level of attack.
what comic is that from? that scene was awesome.
Originally posted by namorsubby
wow.........that was extemely cool(i just saw it now) 😱idk what that thing is, but if it has comparable strength to colossus, it probably doesn't possess comparable durability.......i can't see syke splitting him in half with any level of attack.
what comic is that from? that scene was awesome.
astonishing x-men 33 (came out last week).
with that attack, i could see him killing colossus. maybe not shear him in half, but crush him in to metallic pulp? yes.
Originally posted by -Pr-
when was that? cyclops use to say he was using full power a lot. he honestly seemed to just not know how powerful he was back then. i don't see namor tanking the oml blast or the one from AXM 33, especially considering cyclops can just pour it on continuously.also, cyclops' blasts have been said to output more power than a nuclear reactor.
dunno if a missile has more than a reactor though.
Back in one of those X-men or Namor issues. Cyclops blasted Namor and Namor just stood there gloating and said that while his power will wane eventually, Namor's will not. And I specifically recall it being stated that Cyclops was doing his worst or something along those lines.
Really? Why not? What did those two blasts do that makes you think Namor cannot tank it besides it being a big light show?
All he did was blow away a half dead old Sentinel and in the recent one he cut in half the brood mutant. Both are some no name creatures.
Can you show Cyclops putting down a legit Class 100 with durability like Namor with his blasts? The closest I can think off is Green Scar and all he did was give him a hair cut. And Green Scar has shitty durability. Which of course is balanced out by his amazing healing factor.
Cool. Unfortunately taking into account Namor's own durability, on top of his energy absorbing skills means that Cyclops putting him down is extremely unlikely.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Back in one of those X-men or Namor issues. Cyclops blasted Namor and Namor just stood there gloating and said that while his power will wane eventually, Namor's will not. And I specifically recall it being stated that Cyclops was doing his worst or something along those lines.Really? Why not? What did those two blasts do that makes you think Namor cannot tank it besides it being a big light show?
All he did was blow away a half dead old Sentinel and in the recent one he cut in half the brood mutant. Both are some no name creatures.
Can you show Cyclops putting down a legit Class 100 with durability like Namor with his blasts? The closest I can think off is Green Scar and all he did was give him a hair cut. And Green Scar has shitty durability. Which of course is balanced out by his amazing healing factor.
Cool. Unfortunately taking into account Namor's own durability, on top of his energy absorbing skills means that Cyclops putting him down is extremely unlikely.
cyclops used to say "full power" all the time. it was stupid. he only started being shown at a reasonably high level when simonsen came on to x-factor and then sporadically through the years, though that can be attributed by his somewhat anal need for control.
the power output behind them.
do you consider ord a class 100? or namorita (i think he put her down recently).
i disagree.
Originally posted by -Pr-
cyclops used to say "full power" all the time. it was stupid. he only started being shown at a reasonably high level when simonsen came on to x-factor and then sporadically through the years, though that can be attributed by his somewhat anal need for control.the power output behind them.
do you consider ord a class 100? or namorita (i think he put her down recently).
i disagree.
If he use to say full power all the time I'm assuming he was using full power when he needed to. At the very least it proves that Namor can no sell Cyclops attacks.
Which have done what exactly?
Don't recall the Namorita incident. Ord from Astonishing X-men? What did he do that puts him in Namor's league in terms of durability? I can't recall anything but it's been a while.
Why? Namor can rip his head off easily, and taking into account his speed/flight, he can dodge almost all day or swoop in for the kill ridiculously swiftly. Throw in his durability which has already shown it can shrug off Cyclop's attack on top of his energy absorbing skills and Namor takes it in a 10/10 stomp in my opinion.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If he use to say full power all the time I'm assuming he was using full power when he needed to. At the very least it proves that Namor can no sell Cyclops attacks.Which have done what exactly?
Don't recall the Namorita incident. Ord from Astonishing X-men? What did he do that puts him in Namor's league in terms of durability? I can't recall anything but it's been a while.
Why? Namor can rip his head off easily, and taking into account his speed/flight, he can dodge almost all day or swoop in for the kill ridiculously swiftly. Throw in his durability which has already shown it can shrug off Cyclop's attack on top of his energy absorbing skills and Namor takes it in a 10/10 stomp in my opinion.
i disagree, considering that those showings directly contradict consistently established character traits.
cleared half a forest, satisfied the phoenix's hunger, broken through onslaught's armour after it had been cracked, killed the brood monster, and output more energy than a nuclear reactor.
that's why i asked. various breakworld people could hang with colossus (including ord).
cyclops has tagged people faster than namor, even in the old days.