Howgarts wizards versus Sidious and the Jedi Order...

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Apologies, I thought you actually knew something about the Harry Potter films. Silly me.

Do the Jedi have a potion that ensures victory? Nope. The Felicis potion more than makes up for Jedi precog.

Dude, Snape is the potions master. Meaning no one is better than him. And if he cant make it, then Slughorn obtains more, analyzes the ingredients, then Snape makes some.

Irrelevant really, because Snape can and would make it perfectly.

BTW, of course all the Jedi have the basic force powers, but uber powers like force choke and lightning, only those who showed it.

Of course Im not speaking for Jaden, who will Im sure be along with his rebuttal soon, but heres some of my thoughts on this.

The potion you speak of is useless against precog force vision.
(Because of the way that cause and effect in a single timeline works.) 🙂

So the jedi are all limited to your rule...Yet you argue that the Wizards get their full wizardry..?

Jesus.

No. The Dementors are controlled by magic.

No, they're not.

Irrelevant really, because Snape can and would make it perfectly.

Yoda is Grand Master of the Jedi, Master of the Force. Can he do Force Lightning? Only on-screen feats.

To say that the Dementors are not a weapon at the wizards disposal is like saying the Clones are not a weapon at the disposal of the Jedi

They aren't. You're stupid, case in point.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well, chump, it was because the force was swinging away fromthe darkside at that time.... 🙄 Hear you nothing that I say...?

Yes I understand what endevour means, knobhead.
Its just that you dont seem to understand "matter is affected by the force" and for your spell to work, it must have some kind of matter/energy property that the force user could screw with.

You can deactivate needlessly-smug-mode anytime by taking the wand out from your bum.

Yoda said this in Episode 5, dude. There were many instances in all the movies that prove a Jedi cannot "read the future" accurately. Want a list?

Matter is "affected", yes. Different matter in different ways. Force pushing a slab of concrete is totally different than force pushing a wall of fiendfyre.

All a moot point really. "One sip and all your endeavors succeed."

All within reason. Realistic endeavors, like defeating the outnumbered Jedi.

Yoda was old, ill, and dying by then. And even he could see the Bespin situation etc...

In terms of matter, how..? What is magic's actuating physical mechanism, Mr.knowsitallaboutwizards..? 😛

Sounds more like in your mind: "One sip is the key to etrernally making up stuff and gimping."

Plus Mr.Nep has just shot holes right through your dementors card.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

Dude, I am not including the Dementors anymore, they were scenario one, the wizards won scenario one.

To say that the Dementors are not a weapon at the wizards disposal is like saying the Clones are not a weapon at the disposal of the Jedi, it's stupid and innacurate. If you wanna bring in the Clone ground troops, we can do that, but that would make it OK to bring in the Dementors again. You relly don't wanna do that.

Check this out, amended the Felix Felicis scenario a bit...

Dumbledore is the only one who knows the wizards are going to attack. On the eve of the attack, he summons Dobby. Handing Dobby the time turner and a note telling Severus to brew the Felicis potion, he sends Dobby back in time to leave the note on Snape's desk. It is unsigned, Snape will have no idea who sent it, but naturally he will brew the potion.

The day of the attack comes. Dumbledore creates a portkey from Hogwarts to a few hundred feet from the Jedi temple. Instructing his wizards to use the portkey, they all are magically transported to the temple. Snape has the Felicis potion in a small sack, with a vial for everyone. Dumbledore tells his wizards to enbibe the potion and attack the temple.

The Jedi will never see it coming. Why? Taken directly from ESB:

[Luke has seen a vision of Han, Leia and Chewie being tortured in Cloud City]
Luke: I saw - I saw a city in the clouds.
Yoda: [nods] Friends you have there.
Luke: They were in pain...
Yoda: It is the future you see.
Luke: The future?
[pause]
Luke: Will they die?
Yoda: [closes his eyes for a moment] Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future.

Hmm, difficult to see, always in motion. Yoda will see maybe a possible future, but nothing solid enough to act on.

The attack begins. The wizards, due to the Felix Felicis potion, superior numbers, and far more diverse powers, clean house on the Jedi.

All you're doing is scripting, silly and sad.

You're breaking the rules, scripting the Jedi out to be morons and giving everyone on your precious and beloved Potter side potions. Wasn't there only one potion in the film?

Seriously, dude. You completely lack objectivety, especially when it comes to a 'Anthing Harry Potter Vs Anything else' type of thread. Just stop.

All movie characters are fallible. Doesn't change the fact that it was stated in the movie that one sip of Felix Felicis will ensure success at every endeavor you undertake. And 'Every endeavor" means any endeavor within reason, like taking the Jedi temple.

And Slughorn could easily have been lying, exaggerating or just plain wrong. Do you even know what 'fallible' means? It means that his word isn't the truth, so stop using it like it is. Felix potion isn't going to stop Sidious from twisting Voldemorts head off. Luck isn't going to save you from a stab to the face.

Totally prepared for this.....He wouldn't be changing events, it never happened, its not an event. It's not like he is going back to change something he did that day, like strike out with Hermione. An event is something he did in the past, he never did it, so the non existent event is impossible to change. Watch this:

Whatever you posted isn't working for me but whatever. Your point? Idiotic. Snape can't give himself something he didn't already have. Thats just how HP time-travel works.

Originally posted by Robtard
All you're doing is scripting, silly and sad.

You're breaking the rules, scripting the Jedi out to be morons and giving everyone on your precious and beloved Potter side potions. Wasn't there only one potion in the film?

Seriously, dude. You completely lack objectivety, especially when it comes to a 'Anthing Harry Potter Vs Anything else' type of thread. Just stop.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
wizards rape

You think hard about that every night alone in bed, dont you Susie..?

😮‍💨

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Stop what? Explaining one of may ways the wizards rape? Stop pointing out wizard powers shown onscreen? Sorry if that offends you.

The scripting:

"Dumbledore is the only one who knows the wizards are going to attack. On the eve of the attack, he summons Dobby. Handing Dobby the time turner and a note telling Severus to brew the Felicis potion, he sends Dobby back in time to leave the note on Snape's desk. It is unsigned, Snape will have no idea who sent it, but naturally he will brew the potion.

The day of the attack comes. Dumbledore creates a portkey from Hogwarts to a few hundred feet from the Jedi temple. Instructing his wizards to use the portkey, they all are magically transported to the temple. Snape has the Felicis potion in a small sack, with a vial for everyone. Dumbledore tells his wizards to enbibe the potion and attack the temple." -RJ

This isn't how the Movie Vs thread works. Stop scripting.

Edit: Here, let me do it too. As the wizards portkey and drink their potion, a malfunctioning clone dropship crashes and burns into the group and they all die. /the end.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And Slughorn could easily have been lying, exaggerating or just plain wrong. Do you even know what 'fallible' means? It means that his word isn't the truth, so stop using it like it is. Felix potion isn't going to stop Sidious from twisting Voldemorts head off. Luck isn't going to save you from a stab to the face.

Whatever you posted isn't working for me but whatever. Your point? Idiotic. Snape can't give himself something he didn't already have. Thats just how HP time-travel works.

Slughorn was not lying, nothing pointed to that. It was said that all their endeavors will succeed, and as crazy as it sounds, we have to accept it. What you are doing now is taking what someone said onscreen and changing it. Kudos on the fail.

You wanna explain how Hermione used the time turner to take twice as many classes in one day? And how she could do this, but having Dobby leave a note for Snape is different? It's not. No events are being changed here. She did it, he could do it.

Originally posted by Robtard
The scripting:

"Dumbledore is the only one who knows the wizards are going to attack. On the eve of the attack, he summons Dobby. Handing Dobby the time turner and a note telling Severus to brew the Felicis potion, he sends Dobby back in time to leave the note on Snape's desk. It is unsigned, Snape will have no idea who sent it, but naturally he will brew the potion.

The day of the attack comes. Dumbledore creates a portkey from Hogwarts to a few hundred feet from the Jedi temple. Instructing his wizards to use the portkey, they all are magically transported to the temple. Snape has the Felicis potion in a small sack, with a vial for everyone. Dumbledore tells his wizards to enbibe the potion and attack the temple." -RJ

This isn't how the Movie Vs thread works.

I knew it....!!!!!!!! RJ is an anagram of JK Rowling!!!!!

(Just with K,o,w,l,i,n and g chucked out.)

That was clearly his/her excerpt from "Harry Potter and any shit I say so, no matter how dreadfully ludicrous."

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I knew it....!!!!!!!! RJ is an anagram of JK Rowling!!!!!

(Just with K,o,w,l,i,n and g chucked out.)

Makes sense, considering the bad writing above.

Originally posted by Robtard
The scripting:

"Dumbledore is the only one who knows the wizards are going to attack. On the eve of the attack, he summons Dobby. Handing Dobby the time turner and a note telling Severus to brew the Felicis potion, he sends Dobby back in time to leave the note on Snape's desk. It is unsigned, Snape will have no idea who sent it, but naturally he will brew the potion.

The day of the attack comes. Dumbledore creates a portkey from Hogwarts to a few hundred feet from the Jedi temple. Instructing his wizards to use the portkey, they all are magically transported to the temple. Snape has the Felicis potion in a small sack, with a vial for everyone. Dumbledore tells his wizards to enbibe the potion and attack the temple."

And? It's one of many ways to a wizard win, and surely one Dumbledore would think of. I'm simply pointing it out.

You want another? Oppugno.

Originally posted by Robtard
Makes sense, considering the bad writing above.

Agreed sir, it does. ✅

RJ, we could script empire victories like that all day long, but you prempitive dismiss everything without thinking, plus thats not how battle works. But you just sit there no matterwhat anyone says going "Nayahahahahahahahayyyhaaahahahahahah schmoll ."

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And? It's one of many ways to a wizard win, and surely one Dumbledore would think of. I'm simply pointing it out.

You want another? Oppugno.

And scripting is ridiculous, as any outcome can be had, no matter how illogical. See my edit. The wizards lose.

Edit: Here, let me do it too. As the wizards portkey and drink their potion, a malfunctioning clone dropship crashes and burns into the group and they all die. /the end

See how stupid scripting in here is.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, they're not.

Yoda is Grand Master of the Jedi, Master of the Force. Can he do Force Lightning? Only on-screen feats.

They aren't. You're stupid, case in point.

Then how, pretell, are dementors controlled? They are controlled by the ministry via magic.

Yoda probably could, but he is a light sider, dude, hard core.

Yessir they are. If Umbridge can summon them, and she can, then they are merely an extension of her will. A weapon. Like a mind attack.

Originally posted by Robtard
And scripting is ridiculous, as any outcome can be had, no matter how illogical. See my edit. The wizards lose.

Nah, liquid luck pwns!!! Got something to counter "One sip and all your endeavors will succeed?"

Thought not.

Wizards WIN ✅

Oppugno, dude, Oppugno.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, liquid luck pwns!!! Got something to counter "One sip and all your endeavors will succeed?"

Thought not.

Wizards WIN ✅

Oppugno, dude, Oppugno.

Yet the potion has its limits. Potter couldn't drink the potion and want to rip the universe in two and it would work.

Na, I already scripted out that while the wizards are drinking their man-juice, a drop-ship crashes and explodes into them; killing them all im a firey blaze. Equipment malfunctions, you know.

Slughorn was not lying, nothing pointed to that. It was said that all their endeavors will succeed, and as crazy as it sounds, we have to accept it. What you are doing now is taking what someone said onscreen and changing it. Kudos on the fail.

facepalm2

Seriously? Ok then, I guess we have to take everything, anyone has ever said as absolute fact then. Hooray! The world is flat! The answer to the great question really is 42! The Emperor really does have 'Ultimate Powr!!!' Why didn't I see it before!?

Ok, let me spell it out to you. People. Are. Fallible. They. Can. Be. Wrong. What. They. Say. Is. Not. Fact. I've explained why Slughorn was obviously speaking in hyperbole before. Accept it, Luck Potion is not perfect. It is Fallible. You. Are. Wrong.

You wanna explain how Hermione used the time turner to take twice as many classes in one day? And how she could do this, but having Dobby leave a note for Snape is different? It's not. No events are being changed here. She did it, he could do it.

It was always meant to happen. She didn't actually change anything. Your scenario will change things. It will give them something that they didn't have before the start, changing things. Adding something not seen in the movie. Thus it cannot be used. We've seen this happen before in HP, Harry saw himself before he actually went back, so he was always meant to have gone back. He didn't change anything. Get it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yet the potion has its limits. Potter couldn't drink the potion and want to rip the universe in two and it would work.

Na, I already scripted out that while the wizards are drinking their man-juice, a drop-ship crashes and explodes into them; killing them all im a firey blaze. Equipment malfunctions, you know.

But then like, the potion turns into a gas form during the explosion and everyone breaths it in, so they don't really die. Because they breathed in good luck. 😄