Howgarts wizards versus Sidious and the Jedi Order...

K, here's Oppugno again:

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Oppugno

Oppugno is a spell that directs an object or individual to attack the victim. This curse will cause conjured creatures under the control of the caster to attack the target.

Shown in THBP, I might add.

The wizards can basically do what Vader did to Luke in ESB, hurl several items at them at once. Difference is these items will not just be flying, but actually attacking.

Soooooo the Jedi are gonna be surrounded by fiendfyre, they are gonna have shit flying at them from all directions (rocks, debris, broken glass, pretty much whatever a wizard wishes to employ Oppugno on), they are gonna have death spells and apparating wizards to deal with. Add on that Felix Felicis is in da hizzle AND the fact that the Death eaters can even turn civilians on the Jedi? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiit, bring on the Clones, the wizards Oppugno them and the Clones turn on the Jedi. It's order 66 all over again ✅ ......Confundus, confuse the Jedi, do all what I said above........Well......

Do the math.

Then how, pretell, are dementors controlled? They are controlled by the ministry via magic.

Nope they have a deal with the ministry. 'We put you in charge of Azkaban and you get the happiness within and we won't hunt you down with Patronus' ', kind of thing.

Yoda probably could, but he is a light sider, dude, hard core.

On-screen feats only, 'dude'.

Yessir they are. If Umbridge can summon them, and she can, then they are merely an extension of her will.

Well she can't, so they aren't. She has to get the ministry to ask them to help her and then they have to decide if they'll obey. It's called free-will and its what separates thinking beings (humans, dementors) from weapons (skynet, a handgun etc).

At the point where you confuse living creatures with objects, I've started to worry about your intelligence.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yet the potion has its limits. Potter couldn't drink the potion and want to rip the universe in two and it would work.

Na, I already scripted out that while the wizards are drinking their man-juice, a drop-ship crashes and explodes into them; killing them all im a firey blaze. Equipment malfunctions, you know.

Again, endeavors "within reason" are achieved. Nice try.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Nope they have a deal with the ministry. 'We put you in charge of Azkaban and you get the happiness within and we won't hunt you down with Patronus' ', kind of thing.

On-screen feats only, 'dude'.

Well she can't, so they aren't. She has to get the ministry to ask them to help her and then they have to[b] decide if they'll obey. It's called free-will and its what separates thinking beings (humans, dementors) from weapons (skynet, a handgun etc).

At the point where you confuse living creatures with objects, I've started to worry about your intelligence. [/B]

Umbridge is second to Fudge, he pretty much listens to her no matter what. She tells him she needs the dementors, she gets them.

Yoda is a light side force user, he is onscreen. Hmm?

Fudge makes the call, man. He listens to her. If she AND Dumbles say they need them? Then they get them.

Originally posted by Tired-Hiker
But then like, the potion turns into a gas form during the explosion and everyone breaths it in, so they don't really die. Because they breathed in good luck. 😄

😂

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Again, endeavors "within reason" are achieved. Nice try.

Doesn't matter, they're already dead, while drinking. If you think it's okay to script, then so can I. Wizards died, sorry.

Originally posted by Nephthys
facepalm2

Seriously? Ok then, I guess we have to take everything, anyone has ever said as absolute fact then. Hooray! The world [b]is flat! The answer to the great question really is 42! The Emperor really does have 'Ultimate Powr!!!' Why didn't I see it before!?

Ok, let me spell it out to you. People. Are. Fallible. They. Can. Be. Wrong. What. They. Say. Is. Not. Fact. I've explained why Slughorn was obviously speaking in hyperbole before. Accept it, Luck Potion is not perfect. It is Fallible. You. Are. Wrong.

It was always meant to happen. She didn't actually change anything. Your scenario will change things. It will give them something that they didn't have before the start, changing things. Adding something not seen in the movie. Thus it cannot be used. We've seen this happen before in HP, Harry saw himself before he actually went back, so he was always meant to have gone back. He didn't change anything. Get it. [/B]

He took it twice, had two perfect days. If it is said, shown or implied onscreen, there's no way around it. It was said onscreen that if a wizard sips the potion they will achieve whatever they try. Thats how it works here. All this "fallible" shit is second guessing and speculating.

No, man, there is no event being changed. Dobby is not going back to kill Sarah Connor, he is not going back to change how a fight played out, he is not going back to cast a spell on someone to change what that person did.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
K, here's Oppugno again:

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Oppugno

Oppugno is a spell that directs an object or individual to attack the victim. This curse will cause conjured creatures under the control of the caster to attack the target.

Shown in THBP, I might add.

The wizards can basically do what Vader did to Luke in ESB, hurl several items at them at once. Difference is these items will not just be flying, but actually attacking.

Soooooo the Jedi are gonna be surrounded by fiendfyre, they are gonna have shit flying at them from all directions (rocks, debris, broken glass, pretty much whatever a wizard wishes to employ Oppugno on), they are gonna have death spells and apparating wizards to deal with. Add on that Felix Felicis is in da hizzle AND the fact that the Death eaters can even turn civilians on the Jedi? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiit, bring on the Clones, the wizards Oppugno them and the Clones turn on the Jedi. It's order 66 all over again ✅ ......Confundus, confuse the Jedi, do all what I said above........Well......

Do the math.

In the movie, Oppugno caused a small flock of birds to swoop down on that kid. He dodged them and the birds exploded into colors and shit.

Oh, how the Jedi will tremble at this. I can see Mace now, losing his cool and not knowing what to do.

Originally posted by Robtard
Doesn't matter, they're already dead, while drinking. If you think it's okay to script, then so can I. Wizards died, sorry.

Originally posted by Robtard
In the movie, Oppugno caused a small flock of birds to swoop down on that kid. He dodged them and the birds exploded into colors and shit.

Oh, how the Jedi will tremble at this. I can see Mace now, losing his cool and not knowing what to do.

Absolutely....and who wouldnt, after a brutal display like that...?

"The pants of the righteous man will be beset by the tyranny of his own pooper, as he walks through the valley of the exploding colourey shit."

Umbridge is second to Fudge, he pretty much listens to her no matter what. She tells him she needs the dementors, she gets them.

Fudge needed them to guard Azkaban. Did they honour their agreement for all time? Or did they freely choose to betray him at the drop of a hat? Face it, they count as combatants, so they need to be added or stated in the OP. You only said they had all potions and gadgets shown in the OP. The Dementors are not part of this, they are not allowed in the thread.

Yoda is a light side force user, he is onscreen. Hmm?

facepalm2 And this says he can use FLightning when he hasn't shown it? Are you actually trying to make sense anymore?

Fudge makes the call, man. He listens to her. If she AND Dumbles say they need them? Then they get them.

No, they don't. They have to ask.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, Voldemort Oppugno's Yoda and he orders the Jedi to impale themselves on their swords. Dooooooh.

No, they're already dead, dude. See my script. You made one where they port and drink; I added to it and closed it. /the end.

There can be no further scripting to this, the wizards are ash.

He took it twice, had two perfect days. If it is said, shown or implied onscreen, there's no way around it. It was said onscreen that if a wizard sips the potion they will achieve whatever they try. Thats how it works here. All this "fallible" shit is second guessing and speculating.

Broken pencil.

No, man, there is no event being changed. Dobby is not going back to kill Sarah Connor, he is not going back to change how a fight played out..

Becuase thats exactly what he's doing.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Broken pencil.

Becuase thats exactly what he's doing.

There has to be an event being changed. Harry cannot go back and change the result of an exam or a quittich match. Dobby can go back and leave an anonymous note to Snape to brew the potion.

There are ways around this, you know. The wizards can simply wait six months to attack. Hell, give the Jedi six months prep too if you wish.

Originally posted by Robtard
No, they're already dead, dude. See my script. You made one where they port and drink; I added to it and closed it. /the end.

There can be no further scripting to this, the wizards are ash.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
K, Fawkes the Phoenix pees on them and they get Eric Draven immortality. Your turn.

Wrong, that isn't an onscreen feat. The Phoneix also comes out of the goblet, yes? It's not here.

The wizards are ash, try again?

Originally posted by Robtard
Wrong, that isn't an onscreen feat. The Phoneix also comes out of the goblet, yes? It's not here.

The wizards are ash, try again?

OK, the Dementors solo the Jedi.

Pwned.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK, the Dementors solo the Jedi.

Pwned.

Nope. You already said they're not here.

Wizards are ash, try again?

the wizards are nothing but fried english muffins..

There are ways around this, you know. The wizards can simply wait six months to attack. Hell, give the Jedi six months prep too if you wish.

OK, then the wizards find themselves facing forcefields (from ROTS) powered by the whole of Coruscant, with auto-tracking cannons on the inside and out. Dumbledore and Voldemort, the only two who can get past them, get ripped apart.