Howgarts wizards versus Sidious and the Jedi Order...

Started by Rogue Jedi24 pages

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
the wizards are nothing but fried english muffins..
Really now? And who does the frying? Certainly not the Jedi. They will have the following to deal with:

Fiendfyre surrounding them.
Flying wizards.
Apparating wizards.
Civilians attacking them (Oppugno, administered by the death eaters)
Flying debris of all shapes and sizes.
Death spells and other spells coming from all directions.
Being vastly outnumbered.

Still think they can win?

Originally posted by Nephthys
OK, then the wizards find themselves facing forcefields (from ROTS) powered by the whole of Coruscant, with auto-tracking cannons on the inside and out. Dumbledore and Voldemort, the only two who can get past them, get ripped apart.

Ha, that's what you think. Just wait til RJ pulls out the gimp-brush.

Originally posted by Nephthys
OK, then the wizards find themselves facing forcefields (from ROTS) powered by the whole of Coruscant, with auto-tracking cannons on the inside and out. Dumbledore and Voldemort, the only two who can get past them, get ripped apart.
I see. So you think Yoda would go through all that trouble? K. The Dementors bypass the shields and solo the Jedi.

Or the wizards can simply use a portkey.

Originally posted by Robtard
Ha, that's what you think. Just wait til RJ pulls out the gimp-brush.
Portkey, dude, Portkey.

I see. So you think Yoda would go through all that trouble? K. The Dementors bypass the shields and solo the Jedi.

No Dementors.

Or the wizards can simply use a portkey.

Proof a portkey can be set to a place no wizards ever been?

Originally posted by Nephthys
No Dementors.

Proof a portkey can be set to a place no wizards ever been?

If you are gonna bring in the planetary defenses, you can bet your ass I am bringing in the dementors.

Proof that it cant? The wizards obviously know where the temple is. They set the portkey with the temple as their destination, they touch it, and they are there.

If the wizards cant apparate there, or portkey there, how does the fight even take place? You wanna make the battle at Hogwarts?

If you are gonna bring in the planetary defenses, you can bet your ass I am bringing in the dementors.

No, becuase the Dementors are basically God-lite. Can't get around them. Planetary defences are just really good defences. Its like you complaining that McClane gets a gun so you give Swagger a Instant-Win button and an indestructible shield to stand behind as he presses it.

Proof that it cant?

I don't have to prove a negative. You say they can use portkeys, you prove they can.

If the wizards cant apparate there, or portkey there, how does the fight even take place?

Two people can apparate. The wizards could try to starve them out or cut their power (of course then the Jedi would bomb them from orbit). Or maybe the wizards are just no match for Jedi technology and prep.

Voldemort and the Death Eaters fly around Coruscant, casting Oppugno on every man, woman and child in sight. Before the Jedi know it, they have thousands and thousands of civilians beating down the temple walls, trying to kill them ✅

While the Jedi are defending themselves, Fiendfyre does the rest.

Magical spells!!!!! 😱

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, becuase the Dementors are basically God-lite. Can't get around them. Planetary defences are just really good defences. Its like you complaining that McClane gets a gun so you give Swagger a Instant-Win button and an indestructible shield to stand behind as he presses it.
Then stick with the Jedi using their powers, no planetary defense rubbish.

I don't have to prove a negative. You say they can use portkeys, you prove they can.

Talk about splitting hairs....

K, move the battle to Hogwarts then?

Two people can apparate. The wizards could try to starve them out or cut their power (of course then the Jedi would bomb them from orbit). Or maybe the wizards are just no match for Jedi technology and prep.
Two people can apparate? My dear lord, you need to watch the movies agan.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Voldemort and the Death Eaters fly around Coruscant, casting Oppugno on every man, woman and child in sight. Before the Jedi know it, they have thousands and thousands of civilians beating down the temple walls, trying to kill them ✅

While the Jedi are defending themselves, Fiendfyre does the rest.

Magical spells!!!!! 😱

Let me guess, the Jedi are so stupid as not to get in a ship (we've seen Jedi pilots) and blast those two to shit?

Also, Oppugno only caused some birds to fly around then go 'poof', on screen.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

K, move the battle to Hogwarts then?

Hogwarts is already toast, the 501st destroyed it. Remember.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Apologies, I thought you actually knew something about the Harry Potter films. Silly me.

Do the Jedi have a potion that ensures victory? Nope. The Felicis potion more than makes up for Jedi precog.

Dude, Snape is the potions master. Meaning no one is better than him. And if he cant make it, then Slughorn obtains more, analyzes the ingredients, then Snape makes some.

Irrelevant really, because Snape can and would make it perfectly.

BTW, of course all the Jedi have the basic force powers, but uber powers like force choke and lightning, only those who showed it.

Is it that hard to understand that you're trying to bestow feats onto the HP characters that they didn't do in the films....Is it really that difficult?

And no...Force chole isn't an "uber" force power. If anything, it's extremely basic. Vader even manages to project it over huge distances while speaking to people via video link.

I have to say I admire the stubborness. This thread only exists because you got your ass handed to you in a near identical thread so you thought you could create your own and control the parameters so you wouldn't get your ass handed to you in this one because you'd be able to set up the gimps as and when you liked. But here you are...Getting your ass handed to you again because of your continual insistence on making things up that never ever happened on screen.

So here's an example of me using your scripting technique against you.

If Vader can force choke from long distances then it's safe to assume those as powerful or more powerful can too. So Yoda and Sidious sit in an impenetrable room watching the entire battle via view screen and force choking every wizard from complete safety. All the wizard die...Jedi/Sith win.

That, is a damn good point.

Originally posted by jaden101
Is it that hard to understand that you're trying to bestow feats onto the HP characters that they didn't do in the films....Is it really that difficult?

And no...Force chole isn't an "uber" force power. If anything, it's extremely basic. Vader even manages to project it over huge distances while speaking to people via video link.

I have to say I admire the stubborness. This thread only exists because you got your ass handed to you in a near identical thread so you thought you could create your own and control the parameters so you wouldn't get your ass handed to you in this one because you'd be able to set up the gimps as and when you liked. But here you are...Getting your ass handed to you again because of your continual insistence on making things up that never ever happened on screen.

So here's an example of me using your scripting technique against you.

If Vader can force choke from long distances then it's safe to assume those as powerful or more powerful can too. So Yoda and Sidious sit in an impenetrable room watching the entire battle via view screen and force choking every wizard from complete safety. All the wizard die...Jedi/Sith win.

Excellent... Excellent

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Voldemort and the Death Eaters fly around Coruscant, casting Oppugno on every man, woman and child in sight. Before the Jedi know it, they have thousands and thousands of civilians beating down the temple walls, trying to kill them ✅

While the Jedi are defending themselves, Fiendfyre does the rest.

Magical spells!!!!! 😱

The last part made me lol pretty hard.

MAGICAL SPELLS, BITCHES! 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

But, what you did still did not counter is the jedi seeing the future, and taking prep to avoid this from happening.

Magical spe.....err...wait.

UBER FORCE! .... 🙁 It's just not the same. 🙁

Originally posted by jaden101
Is it that hard to understand that you're trying to bestow feats onto the HP characters that they didn't do in the films....Is it really that difficult?

And no...Force chole isn't an "uber" force power. If anything, it's extremely basic. Vader even manages to project it over huge distances while speaking to people via video link.

I have to say I admire the stubborness. This thread only exists because you got your ass handed to you in a near identical thread so you thought you could create your own and control the parameters so you wouldn't get your ass handed to you in this one because you'd be able to set up the gimps as and when you liked. But here you are...Getting your ass handed to you again because of your continual insistence on making things up that never ever happened on screen.

So here's an example of me using your scripting technique against you.

If Vader can force choke from long distances then it's safe to assume those as powerful or more powerful can too. So Yoda and Sidious sit in an impenetrable room watching the entire battle via view screen and force choking every wizard from complete safety. All the wizard die...Jedi/Sith win.

Bestow what feats they haven't done in the films? You mean when I say an uber wizard can do a spell a student can do? Thats common sense.

Force choke can be countered, you know, very easily.

Got my ass handed to me? 😆 Sure, All that happened there was a buncha people thinking HP is a buncha idiots running around with twigs are gonna sit on their as and do nothing. Failure to accept that the Clones would be weaponless, failure to accept that fiendfyre would tear them to pieces. DDM agrees with me, he's just too chicken shit to say it 🙄

Vader force choked in ESB, not the PT. 😄 Voldy legilimens a Jedi, learns Vaders location, apparates there, death spell.

Next?

Originally posted by Robtard
Let me guess, the Jedi are so stupid as not to get in a ship (we've seen Jedi pilots) and blast those two to shit?

Also, Oppugno only caused some birds to fly around then go 'poof', on screen.

And? It is a power she used, and the HP link explains it further, so it is perfectly acceptable here. The death eaters could easily set ten thousand people on the Jedi, or even your precious Clones.

Yes, Rob ✅ It is never implied that it has limits.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Bestow what feats they haven't done in the films? You mean when I say an uber wizard can do a spell a student can do? Thats common sense.

Vader force choked in ESB, not the PT. 😄 Voldy legilimens a Jedi, learns Vaders location, apparates there, death spell.

See that? You're saying that a more powerful wizard could do something that he didn't do on screen, because a less powerful wizard was shown doing it. Which is fine and all, if you were fair about it.

But you're not, as you'll stick to shit like "Palpatine can only do Force-lighting", Obi Wan can't force-choke etc.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The last part made me lol pretty hard.

MAGICAL SPELLS, BITCHES! 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

But, what you did still did not counter is the jedi seeing the future, and taking prep to avoid this from happening.

Magical spe.....err...wait.

UBER FORCE! .... 🙁 It's just not the same. 🙁

Once again....."Difficult to see, the future is, always changing it is."

And again, magical spells!!!

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And? It is a power she used, and the HP link explains it further, so it is perfectly acceptable here. The death eaters could easily set ten thousand people on the Jedi, or even your precious Clones.

Yes, Rob ✅ It is never implied that it has limits.

Again, you only use the "seen on screen" angle to its strictest on one side, the side you want to loose. While your precious HP gets the relaxed version of, 'well, it's implied, so it can do anything I imagine.'

Oh, a couple Jedi in fighters would rape all the wizards. Anakin in a fighter would solo multiple broom-bound wizards.

Originally posted by Robtard
Again, you only use the "seen on screen" angle to its strictest on one side, the side you want to loose. While your precious HP gets the relaxed version of, 'well, it's implied, so it can do anything I imagine.'

Oh, a couple Jedi in fighters would rape all the wizards. Anakin in a fighter would solo multiple broom-bound wizards.

haermm Bullshit. Gimmee an example of me doing that.

Anakin doesn't have his fighter here.