Excuse me? how....when did he do anything like negating movements inside his body? you dont even know if he can call upon his own Tk to go inside his own body, what a far fetched assumption indeed.....
Nah, Alakazam showed physical TK, Kains using control of blood, the immediate moment Kain starts M2 would likely die, almost nothing (theres definaltey no feat showing M2 can) can survive its own blood flowing quickly through its body, likely into its heart, brain etc
No because Kains Tk enters his body which he has never been able to do himself. Incredible really but despite how weak Kains Tk is physically, it can work at minute levels and cause problems for opponents who have zero defecnes against such. M2 has nothing to stop Kain from doing so and you know what happesn if he tries to? he ends up dieing because his own forceful and powerful Tk would likely do more damage to his own body than Kain.....
So he is bust if Kain gets the fraction of a second he would need to internally gib M2...../thread
Lol. So MewTwo can TK such minute things as *atoms* to assemble working pokeballs from air, and TK the atmosphere of a planet, but he can't counteract Kain's TK? I lol'd, lol'd hard. Kain's TK probably isn't even strong enough to affect the blood flow of a creature as strong as MewTwo anyway, so your argument is invalid to begin with. MewTwo's heart pumps harder than Kain's entire body can work.
Expain the atoms part with more than words, show a video of him Tking atoms.....unless ofc your assuming a good few things? (likely, knowing you....)
And Tking the atmosphere of the planet is irrelvent here....I dont see how you cant understnad that tbh.
lol the blood flow of a creature as strong as M2...wtf lol....stop reaching silly rofl....
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
MewTwo's physicly stronger than many pokemon with strength feats on levels so silly Kratos would envy them. 😛But yeah, No End N Site is right, I destroyed your argument posts ago, BT. Time to stop wasting words on you.
Yes and thats going to help his blood flow.... 🙄 reach moar!
No youve never destroyed an argument of mine, in your own mind some of your nonsense counts as evidence but unfortunaltey in truth they are just useless bits and piecies youve tried to toss together that are irrelvent.
Originally posted by No End N Site
That should have sealed the deal for this whole Kain VS M2 thing. But good points are always ignored...
Kains not trying to crush M2 with phyiscal Tk though....which is why its irrelvent 😉 but we know your trolling dont we...yesz
Hes never done that, M2 Tk works on forceful pushes and based on his choice of attack againt Mew (shadowballs?) his forceful Tk is fairly weak, bending Allakazams spoons? pff, thats nothing.....
Kain would in a near instant have M2 blood spraying out of his body or flying through his heart, his body would just shut down with the shock of such an experiance and if he attempted to combat Kains Tk he would be killed by his own Tk defence. I think you my young friend are the one who cannot understand English, heres plain Enlgish: Show M2 simply stopping TK, certainly from inside his body and I may take you seriously. Otherwise your childish complaining is not worth my time...
Originally posted by Burning thought
Kain would in a near instant have M2 blood spraying out of his body or flying through his heart, his body would just shut down with the shock of such an experiance and if he attempted to combat Kains Tk he would be killed by his own Tk defence. I think you my young friend are the one who cannot understand English, heres plain Enlgish: Show M2 simply stopping TK, certainly from inside his body and I may take you seriously. Otherwise your childish complaining is not worth my time...
Lol, uh-oh. Now we're talking, lmao.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtYou can not prove anything you just said, your creatin' limitations based on your fanboyizm (as usual). The only thing you have proven is that you know nothing about Kain's opponents, once again, as usual.
Hes never done that, M2 Tk works on forceful pushes and based on his choice of attack againt Mew (shadowballs?) his forceful Tk is fairly weak, bending Allakazams spoons? pff, thats nothing.....Kain would in a near instant have M2 blood spraying out of his body or flying through his heart, his body would just shut down with the shock of such an experiance and if he attempted to combat Kains Tk he would be killed by his own Tk defence. I think you my young friend are the one who cannot understand English, heres plain Enlgish: Show M2 simply stopping TK, certainly from inside his body and I may take you seriously.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtYet you respond to my posts anyway. 😆 😂 🤣 The mass of irony you have created will leave hole in the universe.
Otherwise your childish complaining is not worth my time...
Originally posted by No End N Site
You can not prove anything you just said, your creatin' limitations based on your fanboyizm (as usual). The only thing you have proven is that you know nothing about Kain's opponents, once again, as usual.Yet you respond to my posts anyway. 😆 😂 🤣 The mass of irony you have created will leave hole in the universe.
Such as what exactly? most of what I have just said is seen in M2 films, hell maybe the first vid in the M2 respect thread and in my own bio where I keep some bits and bobs on funny little people on this forum, a Kain vid of controlling blood is there.
I respond to most peoples posts because as shamefully ignorant or obviously delusional some people may be it passes some time to argue something or other while I wait for something more important to happen. I hardly come to KMC for an intelligent debate lol, I know by now theres not going to be much of that here, ofc not in this section at least.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Wow BT, watch the ****ing movie, just walk away, or learn the phrase "I am wrong" or "You are correct." Just do something intelligent.
Thats the best slander you can come up with, your silly little arguments fall to dust and you cannot bakc them up so you have to pretty much ask me to say your correct? 😆
I knew you were insecure but hell, not this badly.
Someone asked for the tk feats of Sephiroth, seeing as Sephiroth has more of something called 'Will' (Which he can use to influence things much like TK) I will use all the feats for it.
Pulling part of a building down:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s1VyV3OP4Q - 4:22
Creating a realistic illusionary world for 3 people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIS7PnDdPqc - 9:40 TO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dMjfXjz2dk - 9:27
Knocks out four people and creates an illusion for a fifth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOSV9E4DpW0 - 1:00 - 2:28
Same video, he either shows teleporting other people or just making the three shinras not see Cloud and co. - 2:30
Also stops Red and Cloud from hearing Tifa.
5:55 Levitates Cloud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRTqyeYSgIY
Pulls apart the floor.
Brings Cloud and party to the heart of the planet, most probably knocking them out first. (Waking up, Clouds wierd dream thing beforehand)
Levitates eight people, knocks them back several times and controls thier bodies.
And the most important one of all, he is holding back Holy.
Which you can see in action here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCc7QelYyaY
(You can also see Omnislash in it's first canon use.)
(Watch from 5:00 to see Holy pushing an 1800 tonne Airship many many kilometers from the heart of the planet to fairly high into the sky)
You also see Holy contend with, then fail against Meteor because Sephiroth held it back just a little to long (Making Holy not only inneffective but the combined power of Meteor and Holy is apparently now capable of destroying the entire planet)
Originally posted by Burning thought
Post at 12:56
Mind control has come up in an episode or 7 where the pkmn resists it, but im not going to look through the 600 eps for them. And even if he gets the chance to get to M2s mind, how will he manipulate a mind as powerful as his? I see where you're coming from with Giovani but its not a psychic feat, only a crime boss manipulating someone by offering power. That was M2 right after 'birth/activation', and made a poor judgement based lack of better knowledge at the time.
Ill refer to ScreamPastes post on creating the pokeball from atoms. The balls them self being complex work (converting a 15m or a 1ton pkmn into matter and storing it in a pokeball that can be the size of a golf ball) combined with his colossal powers and intelligence, its rational to say if he had to there's nothing stopping him from manipulation his inner body. The lab destruction was him using his powers for the very first time before was able to fully use or even focus his power.
If the sword is tangible then it can be held back by TK. Especially if it needs to make contact. Sorry, im not gonna search the whole movie waiting to hear if the scenes in that movie or another, take too long and a waste of effort trying. In truth I did forget about his team mates, so chances for Kain to successfully land a damaging move increases.... if it wasn't for this; In this scenario your'e saying Kain uses a sneak attack on M2. Despite the fact that being in a fight and one with the odds against him, M2 will be on full alert, heightening his powers and spacial awareness. Sneaking would be rendered useless against him. Kratos is no threat, like you said with Samus, chances are he cant keep up with M2/Kain/Seph (and even Samus for her jumping, speed and range).
What's to say M2 cant override Kains TK? Very logical feat, weaker TK gets nulled by stronger TK.
Actually a specially trained and amplified Drowzee, but that's getting off the topic. Using mass mind wipe and mass forced teleportation is not an easy act, and a mind wipe involves safely erasing specific memorise to a certain time without going too far or damaging the subjects brain.(<- Sci-fi and some medical info) Kains strongest in physical is M2s weakest physical in his weakest form. If he can create a storm with a flick of his wrist, what can he do if he focuses a full powered attack on Kain? Ends with blood rain. 😛
Hes faster and better at teleporting, can TK a catagory 3(?) hurricane with no sign of effort. Coming from a creature who has the ability to destroy the planet. Not to mention the 100 other moves besides psychic hes able to use. (Around 50 of those are useful) And about his TK, in both videos you posted Kain grabbed his opponent with an obvious hand movement. Any way for you to show that he can use the same skill with less movements? Or where it shows Kain manipulating blood to rush to their head or heart.
''Brings Cloud and party to the heart of the planet, most probably knocking them out first.'' -Was it Sephiroth that caused that?
''Levitates eight people, knocks them back several times and controls thier bodies.'' -Average TK here. Didn't really controls the bodies, more likely he paralysed their movements.
''And the most important one of all, he is holding back Holy.'' -True its the strongest feat posted. But not the strongest thing here.
Originally posted by BloodRain
''Brings Cloud and party to the heart of the planet, most probably knocking them out first.'' -Was it Sephiroth that caused that?
If you have a plausible theory of how it happened that didn't require Sephiroth I am glad to hear it.
Somehow the ground came apart, so either Sephiroth was keeping it up for Jenova-DEATH and when it died let the platform fall catching Cloud and co, and knocking them all out bringing them to the floating platforms or it was staying up on it's own and Sephiroth brought it down taking cloud and co with it.
(My guess would be it was staying up on it's own)
Originally posted by BloodRain
''Levitates eight people, knocks them back several times and controls thier bodies.'' -Average TK here. Didn't really controls the bodies, more likely he paralysed their movements.
I am not quite sure, Cid did specifically say: "My...My body...I can't control my body......Uuugh!?"
(They were also flailing about as Cid and co talk, so my guess is Sephiroth was having some fun)
Originally posted by BloodRain
''And the most important one of all, he is holding back Holy.'' -True its the strongest feat posted. But not the strongest thing here.
If you think assembling a pokeball is a good feat, Sephiroth created three beings using his will when he was dead. He also gave them clothes and weapons.
Edited: My quote editing made some wierd errors.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
If you have a plausible theory of how it happened that didn't require Sephiroth I am glad to hear it.Somehow the ground came apart, so either Sephiroth was keeping it up for Jenova-DEATH and when it died let the platform fall catching Cloud and co, and knocking them all out bringing them to the floating platforms or it was staying up on it's own and Sephiroth brought it down taking cloud and co with it.
(My guess would be it was staying up on it's own)I am not quite sure, Cid did specifically say: "My...My body...I can't control my body......Uuugh!?"
(They were also flailing about as Cid and co talk, so my guess is Sephiroth was having some fun)If you think assembling a pokeball is a good feat, Sephiroth created three beings using his will when he was dead. He also gave them clothes and weapons.
O.o touchy subject eh? Plausible theory? Weak platform + Boss fight = AHHH!! IM FALLING!! Again i dont know, nor does it matter. ¬¬
Yeah, I did read what they were saying. No where did it say ''D-Damn... He's got control of my body.... Rawr?!'' Means they couldn't make themselves properly move.
Highly doubt Seph wanted to shake them like rag dolls. It was ps1 graphics to show distress of the characters in that they cant move their bodies and can only resort to 'twitches'.
''Okay, so how did they end up all on the neat platforms, instead of falling into the lifestream or splatting on the platforms?'' If thats your question then its either PIS or Seph wanted to save them for some reason and placed them on the rocks, disappeared only to come back when they wake for a dramatic entrance.
......not a good feat, a technical on a minute scale with psychic energy feat ^^ Can you show me what you're talking about?