Jiraiya Vs. Pein, the rematch

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Jiraiya Vs. Pein, the rematch

Takes place in the amegakure buildings, just like in the first fight. Jiraiya has the knowledge he gained right before dying, that Nagato is somewhere else controlling the bodies, but that's all he has. Doesn't know where he is, or what his powers are, or anything.

We're going to be disregarding the statement Pein made about if Jiraiya knew his secret. I wanted to see if there were any actual reasons to justify that statement.

i think the outcome would b da same

Depends on what Jiraiya does with the knowledge IMO. If he goes after Nagato and doesn't fight the 6 paths, he can win. If he decides to duke it out with the 6 paths, he'd probably lose.

Course, he'd have to find him first, and that would be the main problem, as I don't know if he'd resort to Naruto's method.

Jiraya dies crushed by a moon either way, no knowledge saves him from that.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Depends on what Jiraiya does with the knowledge IMO. If he goes after Nagato and doesn't fight the 6 paths, he can win. If he decides to duke it out with the 6 paths, he'd probably lose.

Course, he'd have to find him first, and that would be the main problem, as I don't know if he'd resort to Naruto's method.

idt the 6 paths would let him jus go lookin for nagato

Originally posted by Bentley
Jiraya dies crushed by a moon either way, no knowledge saves him from that.

Yeah, exactly.

Assuming the fact Nagato isn't going to go out of character, he isn't going to destroy his village just to finish off Jiriaya. Though, even without Chibaku Tensei or whatever it was called Pain still wins. Jiraiya may have a lot of tricks up his sleeve but none of them are beating Shinra Tensei

Don't forget the other five bodies as well, Naruto may have breezed through them but Jiraiya got beat down without God Pein even fighting him.

It's because he was ambushed after thinking he beat them all. If Jiraiya knew he had six bodies not three it probably would have went a bit different, but ultimately ended the same,

i think he would have taken out five of them but god realm would finish it

No way, he had the time of his life killing three bodies, five is imo out of the question.

I'm not up to date on the mechanics of Pain's Shinra Tensei or whatever. If its one of those forever and a day attacks, then I think Pain's better off making it a 6 on 1 beatdown. If its quick to use then its just a faster victory. Either way Pain wins...again.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I'm not up to date on the mechanics of Pain's Shinra Tensei or whatever. If its one of those forever and a day attacks, then I think Pain's better off making it a 6 on 1 beatdown. If its quick to use then its just a faster victory. Either way Pain wins...again.
He can use it every 5 seconds

Also Naruto is stronger than Jiraya and he also had a hard time fighting a WEAKENED Pein.

Originally posted by Bentley
Also Naruto is stronger than Jiraya and he also had a hard time fighting a WEAKENED Pein.
😬 No real proof Naruto is stronger than Jiraiya. Naruto was just able to surpass him in Sage Mode in the fact Naruto completed it. Jiraiya still is stronger even with incomplete sage mode, and a better fighter. Though it is very possible Jiraiya can win with Frog Song genjutsu but unlikely.

I don't see how the genjutsu will help, unless he gets the revival body with it.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I don't see how the genjutsu will help, unless he gets the revival body with it.
If he's fighting all six at once it will help greatly. But he would have to actually survive that long to get it ready...or well for Ma and Pa to get it ready.

yeah, that's true. but until they can prepare the attack, Jiraiya would already be going up against all 6 bodies. getting off an attack like that with people going after you is hard.

Originally posted by Kento
If he's fighting all six at once it will help greatly. But he would have to actually survive that long to get it ready...or well for Ma and Pa to get it ready.

But, this is just like the first fight they had, so he'll have to get all the bodies deployed in order to fight all of them.

Originally posted by King Kandy
But, this is just like the first fight they had, so he'll have to get all the bodies deployed in order to fight all of them.
If he has the knowledge he has at death, he won't get surprised attacked. He would know all about the bodies. So he wouldn't think he won by taking out three. He got that far once he can do it again. If the fight starts out with just three bodies he has a much better shot at winning.