Thor vs. Superman: How close (or far) apart are they?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
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Does one instance override his feats where he resisted, tank and showed no weakness to it? That's where the part with...

comes in. You should try and think about the thing you read before posting. yesdur

Very true. I think it's a problem in semantics going on here: Superman's *resistance* to magical attacks is usually very low, but he still possesses his super-endurance/recuperative abilities, as such, which is why there are instances of him tanking powerful magical blasts, and surviving magical attacks that might kill lesser targets. Magic with Superman *does not* equal auto-win; it simply makes the win more likely. To put it another way: in video game terms, his "armor/resistance" against magical attacks is very low, so the damage "points" inflicted are higher than might be expected, but he still has a metric ass-ton of "health points". If people looked back over the decades, that analogy bears out true for the most part.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
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Does one instance override his feats where he resisted, tank and showed no weakness to it? That's where the part with...

comes in. You should try and think about the thing you read before posting. yesdur

Originally posted by rotiart
How the hell can you say
1. It does not exist anymore period
2. It does exist but depends on the situation

contradicting yourself in the same paragraph..

And everyone has high an low showings....

But... It's a tie based upon average showings...
If superman sundips or uses his speed out of character he wins
if Thor goes for the god blast rather than fisticuffs off the bat... He wins...

Basically if either uses his entire set while the other doesn't... It's a tie....
Talking about supermans speed s like talking about Thor summoning storms/ godblast or antiforce... He doesn't always go all out either but when he does...

Originally posted by h1a8
I wonder the IQ of you guys. Maybe I'm an oddball. I'm guy who has an above average IQ that like comics. It is clear that if someone can move at least 6ft before you can move 1ft (or 1ft before you can move 2 inches) that you will get hit everytime. There is no defense. Speed is the key and has always been the key.

Superman can beat God provided God had human speed, reflexes, and durability if they engaged after the bell rings.

Also you guys are forgetting that Thor is astonomically weaker without his hammer. He can lose it by getting it knocked away, getting hit and dropping it, throwing it and missing, etc. This is a huge factor too besides speed.

Give Thor superman's speed and he wins 10/10. I would become a huge Thor fan then.

This post is hilarious !!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Anyways, if these two fought,

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
trade blows, lock hands and stalemate etc.

Lol.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Superman is more durable, noticeably stronger and overwhelmingly faster. Thor wins if Superman doesn't use his speed/underestimates him and his vulnerability to magic is played up to a degree that he gets weakened enough for Thor to eventually fall him.

I agree with this post .... He is portrayed consistently as stronger and more durable.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
I agree with this post .... He is portrayed consistently as stronger and more durable.

Thor is cooler

I honestly don't see how anyone could say the only way Thor has a chance is if Supes underestimates him. Yes, Supes is more durable and is faster; however, some posters are making it seem like Thor would be hitting air if he ever took a swing at Clark.

It'd be like me saying that since Thor's got a few magic tricks up his sleeve, Clark goes down faster than Jenna Jameson. Neither point of view is valid given their respective fairing against beings who can exploit their weaknesses. This is a far more even match than some would like to admit, IMO.

FTR, I'd give Supes the edge overall. Faster, more skilled, and more than strong enough to drop Thor.

Originally posted by Harbinger
I honestly don't see how anyone could say the only way Thor has a chance is if Supes underestimates him. Yes, Supes is more durable and is faster; however, some posters are making it seem like Thor would be hitting air if he ever took a swing at Clark.

It'd be like me saying that since Thor's got a few magic tricks up his sleeve, Clark goes down faster than Jenna Jameson. Neither point of view is valid given their respective fairing against beings who can exploit their weaknesses. This is a far more even match than some would like to admit, IMO.

FTR, I'd give Supes the edge overall. Faster, more skilled, and more than strong enough to drop Thor.

Thor has him in experience and power. Thor is also more than powerful enough to drop him.

Anyone who says Superman is definitively more durable and 'noticeably stronger' hasn't read enough Thor. Their durability is virtually a toss up, with Thor surviving blasts from skyfathers and supernovae and all sorts of other incredibly powerful things. Same deal with Superman (except when up against magic.) And noticeably stronger? Thor's lifted the Midgard Serpent (more than once), generated enough force while arm wrestling to knock the planet out of orbit, stalemated the Hulk in strength for hours, physically overpowered Kurse, has shaken the entire planet with one of his hammer blows and been stated on panel to have the strength to destroy planets with his Mjolnir strikes. No, Superman is not noticeably stronger. At all. Not when he needs assistance from 3-4 other herald levelers to move the Earth and can't slow down Callisto (which weighs 0.018 Earths) even with the help of 15+ other Kryptonians, needing the assistance of [Ultraman?] to stop the Monitor's 80 mile long space ship, etc.

There's no difference between them in strength or durability, and if there is, it's so minute one way or the other that it makes absolutely zero difference.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Anyone who says Superman is definitively more durable and 'noticeably stronger' hasn't read enough Thor. Their durability is virtually a toss up, with Thor surviving blasts from skyfathers and supernovae and all sorts of other incredibly powerful things. Same deal with Superman (except when up against magic.) And noticeably stronger? Thor's lifted the Midgard Serpent (more than once), generated enough force while arm wrestling to knock the planet out of orbit, stalemated the Hulk in strength for hours, physically overpowered Kurse, has shaken the entire planet with one of his hammer blows and been stated on panel to have the strength to destroy planets with his Mjolnir strikes. No, Superman is not noticeably stronger. At all. Not when he needs assistance from 3-4 other herald levelers to move the Earth and can't slow down Callisto (which weighs 0.018 Earths) even with the help of 15+ other Kryptonians, needing the assistance of [Ultraman?] to stop the Monitor's 80 mile long space ship, etc.

There's no difference between them in strength or durability, and if there is, it's so minute one way or the other that it makes absolutely zero difference.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
when has thor survived blast from skyfathers?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
when has thor survived blast from skyfathers?

Originally posted by quanchi112
More importantly when has Superman?

But seriously, Superman has survived blasts from skyfathers, too. I wasn't arguing that Thor's durability or strength was superior. Just that they're about even.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Anyone who says Superman is definitively more durable and 'noticeably stronger' hasn't read enough Thor. Their durability is virtually a toss up, with Thor surviving blasts from skyfathers and supernovae and all sorts of other incredibly powerful things. Same deal with Superman (except when up against magic.) And noticeably stronger? Thor's lifted the Midgard Serpent (more than once), generated enough force while arm wrestling to knock the planet out of orbit, stalemated the Hulk in strength for hours, physically overpowered Kurse, has shaken the entire planet with one of his hammer blows and been stated on panel to have the strength to destroy planets with his Mjolnir strikes. No, Superman is not noticeably stronger. At all. Not when he needs assistance from 3-4 other herald levelers to move the Earth and can't slow down Callisto (which weighs 0.018 Earths) even with the help of 15+ other Kryptonians, needing the assistance of [Ultraman?] to stop the Monitor's 80 mile long space ship, etc.

There's no difference between them in strength or durability, and if there is, it's so minute one way or the other that it makes absolutely zero difference.

QFT

Originally posted by Enyalus
😖hifty: Darkseid...

But seriously, Superman has survived blasts from skyfathers, too. I wasn't arguing that Thor's durability or strength was superior. Just that they're about even.

Originally posted by quanchi112
More skilled than Thor?

Thor has him in experience and power. Thor is also more than powerful enough to drop him.

More skilled, as in MA abilities. Superman knows and displays several martial art skills from Kryptonian MA to orienatl martial arts. Also he outright uses his brain way more than Thor in fights or owtherwise.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Whenever I hear the beings Superman has tanked attacks from it's never quite as impressive as the characters Thor has. That's my point. People who claim Darkseid is skyfather is basically the kinds of answers I expect.

Pfft! Darkseid's accomplishments pretty much put him over anyone you can mention in Thor's tank blast column.

Hell Supes has guys like Dominus (above skyfather) in his win column. The seven elder gods (put down the JLA), Asmodius, Blaze and Satanus, Braniac 13, Mageddon (above skyfather). Get real.

Originally posted by h1a8
Also you guys are forgetting that Thor is astonomically weaker without his hammer. He can lose it by getting it knocked away, getting hit and dropping it, throwing it and missing, etc. This is a huge factor too besides speed.

Thor is not weaker without his hammer where did u get that from? Oh yeah and it will just return to him.

Originally posted by Allankles
Pfft! Darkseid's accomplishments pretty much put him over anyone you can mention in Thor's tank blast column.

Hell Supes has guys like Dominus (above skyfather) in his win column. The seven elder gods (put down the JLA), Asmodius, Blaze and Satanus, Braniac 13, Mageddon (above skyfather). Get real.

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