Originally posted by CosmicComet
Umm no, basically what would happen is the impact would leave a huge hole through the aircraft courtesy of a 7 ft mega durable demi-god flying through it.
I noticed how you modified the scenario by adding "if Kratos was hurled at the same speed as the plane". My scenario was simple, if Kratos' met with the plane at the same speed Ryu was descending onto it, he would be cut in two, or at the very least, expire/die/kick the bucket.
I await your GOW 3 feats.
Originally posted by Allankles
I noticed how you modified the scenario by adding "if Kratos was hurled at the same speed as the plane". My scenario was simple, if Kratos' met with the plane at the same speed Ryu was descending onto it, he would be cut in two, or at the very least, expire/die/kick the bucket.I await your GOW 3 feats.
What....the....hell?
I UPPED your scenario with an even more testing one. Running INTO a punch is going to be far more damaging than if you just planted your feet. If you knew anything about Kratos or God of War, how could possibly come to the solution that Kratos would die if he simply fell onto that moving plane? 😐
I've been trying to be courteous and all, but I can't imagine how much longer I can be. And I would post the spoilers in tags, but as I see now it would be a waste of time as you'll still argue that Ryu can somehow still hurt the guy. I'll just be smugly content in the fact that I'm not the only one who knows about this. 🙂
If you want, you can just look up an HD walkthrough of the game that's already on youtube, rajmangaminghd is the profile.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
--You can't recall what you haven't seen can you? Yes, Gaia is shown to be made of rock inside and out, I'll say no more.-Thank you for posting the video, now you can understand why I was laughing. See, you are indirectly trying to make a faulty negative assessment of the power of a Zeus lightning bolt because you claim the last spartan 'shrugged one off', but then in that very scene we see that lightning bolt crumble the building that the last spartan and a couple of others were standing on. (how many actual lightning bolts have you seen do that?)
How then does an ordinary human survive that? Choose one:
Didn't I just f'n say that?
I never said he "shrugged" it off. By the looks of it, it hit the Spartan. And how could you tell that it hit EXACTLY the building. And remember, the Spartan is pretty tough for "someone like him". And still, it was a good feat from the Last Spartan.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Hit the building most likely i.e. didn't hit him head on. Though the Last Spartan was caught in the radius of the blast, that I'll agree.Besides, the Last Spartan is a dude who can somewhat fight with Kratos, and someone who was able to make it to the Palace of the Fates from Sparta 😐. He isn't an ordinary human or Spartan 😐.
Finally, the bolt that hit the building was not as charged as the one Zeus used in 3. Deny or argue this all you like, you cannot change those facts.
Well, it's possibly true, but we don't know how he got to the Palace of the Fates, lol.
So why wasn't it considered PIS (Kratos getting hit, I mean)?
Hmm, does Ryu have poison?
Originally posted by CosmicComet
What....the....hell?I UPPED your scenario with an even more testing one. Running INTO a punch is going to be far more damaging than if you just planted your feet. If you knew anything about Kratos or God of War, how could possibly come to the solution that Kratos would die if he simply fell onto that moving plane? 😐
I've been trying to be courteous and all, but I can't imagine how much longer I can be. And I would post the spoilers in tags, but as I see now it would be a waste of time as you'll still argue that Ryu can somehow still hurt the guy. I'll just be smugly content in the fact that I'm not the only one who knows about this. 🙂
If you want, you can just look up an HD walkthrough of the game that's already on youtube, rajmangaminghd is the profile.
If Kratos is hurled at speed, he carries a force closer to that of the moving air craft. If he gets hit while moving at the speed of Ryu's descent he will not carry the same force and will not come close to damging the plane as much as it damages him. It is a testament to the abilities of the dragon sword, that it cut through that air craft as if it were cutting through butter.
And I'm sure you're compensating for the power of a state of the art air craft vs his enemies in GOW. That aircraft would absolutely destroy most of GOW's cast, that is removing any qualifiers like magic and just considering the level of damage it can cause.
Again, why don't you just put spolier tags on his relevant GOW 3 feats, to pretty much close your case?
Originally posted by Allankles
If Kratos is hurled at speed, he carries a force closer to that of the moving air craft. If he gets hit while moving at the speed of Ryu's descent he will not carry the same force and will not come close to damging the plane as much as it damages him. It is a testament to the abilities of the dragon sword, that it cut through that air craft as if it were cutting through butter.And I'm sure you're compensating for the power of a state of the art air craft vs his enemies in GOW. That aircraft would absolutely destroy most of GOW's cast, that is removing any qualifiers like magic and just considering the level of damage it can cause.
Again, why don't you just put spolier tags on his relevant GOW 3 feats, to pretty much close your case?
-You have no idea what you are talking about. Running into a force moving towards you will only INCREASE the force that will be exerted on you. Just as backing away from it will lessen it.
Run into punch, greatest chance of KO. Standing still, lesser chance, backing away, least chance.
-What do you mean 'I'm sure you are compensating'? An aircraft that fires bullets and makes meager explosions with missiles is absolutely nothing in the GoW universe. Kratos is bullet proof, and has tanked worse than what those missiles can give. And Kratos is just a demi-god.
-I don't know. I guess I'm just a masochist, and maybe somewhat smug in the knowledge of this being a stomp, while you do not yet know. I don't need to say the specifics. All you need to know is what I've already said. Kratos tanks a piercing and slashing action from a creature and being respectively, both millions of times stronger than Ryu. Arguments of Ryu's sword being magical are null and void when that very element of magic is present in Kratos' feats as well. Sorry.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
-You have no idea what you are talking about. Running into a force moving towards you will only INCREASE the force that will be exerted on you. Just as backing away from it will lessen it.
🙄 I know it wasn't your intention but that was patronizing. Of course your scenario "upped" things, but it wasn't relevant to my point. I was comparing the durabilty of a 1 ton+ state of the art air craft with a 6 foot something 200+ pound demi god. So I wanted to put Kratos body in the same position as the dragon blade (which is also harder than Kratos).
Originally posted by CosmicComet
-What do you mean 'I'm sure you are compensating'? An aircraft that fires bullets and makes meager explosions with missiles is absolutely nothing in the GoW universe. .
Except that it would destroy 70% of the GOW 1 & 2 bosses.
And we didn't see the missile exploding, that was the plane before that part. Ryu avoids the missile and then nympos the last jet fighter, and then the scene ends, we don't see the missile exploding.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
--I don't know. I guess I'm just a masochist, and maybe somewhat smug in the knowledge of this being a stomp, while you do not yet know. I don't need to say the specifics. All you need to know is what I've already said. Kratos tanks a piercing and slashing action from a creature and being respectively, both millions of times stronger than Ryu. Arguments of Ryu's sword being magical are null and void when that very element of magic is present in Kratos' feats as well. Sorry.
Cool, glad you cleared that up. 😆
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Umm no, basically what would happen is the impact would leave a huge hole through the aircraft courtesy of a 7 ft mega durable demi-god flying through it.Again, I really really will not be specifically spoiling what happens in GoW3 in this thread, but you obviously can't know where I get the idea of Ryu's blade 'bouncing off' Kratos' skin if you haven't seen the feats I'm talking about. Demonic Phoenix will agree, hell he already has.
According to one of the character artists in GoWIII, I think that height's sort of been retconned...
Now he's apparently eight and a half feet tall (~8'6''😉.
Just, you know, for future reference.
The new character art video in the GoWIII Treasures section.
I'm kinda calling it far-fetched as well, but given how tall other demi-gods like Theseus and Hercules are, and comparing Kratos to the normal human citizens on Olympus (like the one he slams off the ledge to get to Helios), it doesn't seem completely out of the question.
Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
According to one of the character artists in GoWIII, I think that height's sort of been retconned...Now he's apparently eight and a half feet tall (~8'6''😉.
Just, you know, for future reference.
I thought he was 8 and a half feet? Either way, that makes Kratos' wife above 7'7 which makes no sense. If Kratos is 8'6, than that makes Calliope 5'6, only two inches shorter than me 😆
Either the ancient Greeks were giants or somebody is exaggerating measurements too much.
Originally posted by Sappho
lol i dont even know why this was argued. i followed all of your posts cc, and by far your points make much more sense... i loled at how far they took it though.
With some of Kratos powers and items in GOW 3 he's definitely beating Ryu, but the idea that Ryu couldn't pierce him with his dragon blade is ridiculous.
Everytime he encounters a piercing weapon canonically he gets stabbed, I don't see how a super ninja capable of destroying super human demonic demi gods is going to have a problem piercing his flesh.
Considering Kratos himself doesn't possess the dense muscles of a greater Fiend.