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Originally posted by TacDavey So he'll use it to fight off some monsters but not to save hundreds if not thousands of lives? Either Zell is a dick, or that explanation doesn't fit. The characters in FF8 never seem to hesitate to use GFs. Even in small problems. Why then, are they absent when faced with BIG problems?
What the heck are you talking about? Save thousands of lives? When? They've never used their GF's for small problems...... so yeah.
And even if I accept that explanation, and I certainly do not, that still doesn't explain the battle animations of all the games outside of FF8, who suffer from the same problem.
None of which are being discussed, please stick to Final Fantasy 8, which is actually relevent.
Yes, her using it outside of battle is what lets us know that it's accurate. That's usually a pretty good indicator. Too bad we don't even have a sliver, or even a simple suggestion that Zell can run around the world outside of battle.
Except that we do. Zell and the rest of the party are specifically stated to be enhanced humans.
.........what?
I'm talking about the battle animations, y'know, when they actually happen on-screen.
It's never specified how much it augments it, and AGAIN, why isn't Zell taking advantage of it? Why isn't he EVER using it, even when it would be a simple fix to a BIG problem?
Which is why we can actually see how much it augments him IN BATTLES. And I don't know what you're talking about with the 'BIG problems'. Elaborate please.
That needs an explanation. Oh, I have one. Battle animations aren't actually 100% accurate displays of characters abilities. Again, we look at Super Nova.
Firstly, Supernova is in a completely different game. Secondly, its the only one I know of thats 'illusionary'. Thirdly, I'm pretty sure that it was actually officially stated to be as such, which none of Zells moves are. Fourthly, Supernova makes no logical sense, even in the stylised, illogical world of gaming, which is why its considered illusionary/impossible. The same cannot be said for Zells moves, none of which are impossible, merely perplexing.
Edea has a limit break that we know is real, because we see her use it outside of battle. Zell, on the other hand, not only doesn't ever use it outside of battle, he doesn't use it when he SHOULD use it. THAT is evidence enough to say that animation isn't accurate, as Super Nova isn't.
It really is not. Its just stupid of the developers to have made him so overpowered and not to have considered that.
No, what we have going against battle animations is the plot of the game. When what you see in a battle animation conflicts with what you see happening in the plot-line of the game, you know the animation is just that. It's an animation. End of story.
Great. Except it does not go against the plot of the game, its actually a part of it. 😐
In a battle animation, just as we see Sephiroth destroy the galaxy in one.
Different game, different rules.
But Cloud DOES do it. Zell doesn't. Ever. Even when it would have saved the day.
Cloud does it once. Why doesn't he do it in other fights? It was enough to one-shot freakin' Sephiroth, canonally the most powerful being in th euniverse. I'm sure it would have come in handy against the dragon, or against those gay bikers he was fighting. But he doesn't. Becuase of the Plot. Becuase that would have been boring. Becuase plot holes exist and becuase even if a character doesn't spam something every 5 seconds, if he's shown he can do something, then he can still bloody do it.
Oh right. All those jumps you're talking about? Are they perhaps battle animations?
Why yes, actually they are. They're also backed up by the out of battle interface explanations of those abilities, just like Zells limit brakes are.
Freya, from FF9 shows she can jump pretty high, as can Zidane. So we know those two characters can jump high. The same can't be said for the other characters.
Well, except they can in the gameplay.
You need Materia to cast spells, not limit breaks. Tifa learned all her limit breaks from some old guy.
Then that's called a plot hole.
Squall performs Renzokuken in the intro? When? I don't remember that.
His charging slice is a limit brake of his. The one that scars blondie (forgot his name) that is.
Umm... FF characters can't fly. Nor can they warp physics to their will. There are spells that make you float 2 feet off the ground, or some that alter your abilities slightly. They don't give you the ability to do whatever you want whenever you want to, or the FF games would be A LOT more chaotic.
Vincent Valentine can. All characters can in Dissidia, where they all have the same powers as from the game. GF's, which characters are junctioned too can. And I imagine that you can't do that stuff constantly becuase its a system that follws strict rules, like turn based and everything having teh same animation over and over, not becuase they can't. That is the only way the animations are inaccurate.