Originally posted by ScreamPaste
...by Link, who is far stronger than any FF Party member.
It would do you well to remember.
Also, featless battle animations,
do not infer any canonical stations,
with more power than light arrows,
which with stunning power can harrow,
a man who shrugs off castle busters,
they're more than the party can muster.
All Link has is arm strength
Lacking power to Lionheart's length.
Light Arrows suck and Limit Breaks pwn
Ganon has no luck and gets blown
by Rinoa and her meteors
making the dark lord meatier.
Squall follows up with Lion Heart
Ganon tries to stop but is torn apart.
Ganon has enough and tries to offend
But Selphie is too tough and uses The End.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
All Link has is arm strength
Lacking power to Lionheart's length.
Light Arrows suck and Limit Breaks pwn
Ganon has no luck and gets blown
by Rinoa and her meteors
making the dark lord meatier.
Squall follows up with Lion Heart
Ganon tries to stop but is torn apart.
Ganon has enough and tries to offend
But Selphie is too tough and uses The End.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Even if that were true,
It still wouldn't help you.
Link's arms did the slashing,
smashing, and shoosts.
He is stronger than they are,
and better to boot.
Limit breaks are featless,
light arrows are not.
Ganon renders them meatless,
and leaves their bones to rot.
Ganon was killed by the Master Sword
That means Squall's Limit Break has him floored.
Ganon's strong magic takes too long
and Rinoa's magic is just way too strong.
All Ganon really has physical power
but Rinoa gives him a shower
of meteors and fire
not even he can admire.
FF8 is just too much Ganon.
Next time make a thread with him and Banon.
Originally posted by The Scenario
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theory
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fact
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scientific+law"facts" as they are known to scientists in the real world are consistent events which happen every time. We only have one instance, not enough for a law, but more than enough for a theory. Theories are still commonly accepted as fact because they are supported by evidence and there is nothing that proves them wrong. That's the situation here.
Filling in with guestimates is what is commonly known as a "hypothesis" and they are just as important as observation and experimentation.We simply have conflicting styles. While I am more "Here's what I think happened, therefore it counts as a feat," your style is more, "this might happened, too. both are irrelevant."
I said no such thing. Graphics had nothing to do with that scene. It was simply an unreliable animation on the same order of Sephiroth destroying the the same solar system upwards of five times in a single fight. Absolutely nothing can be taken from the scene and hope to be even slightly accurate.
Sealed, and still alive and healthy. Squall was stabbed by an icicle and nearly died. Ganondorf was stunned.
That's still an unsupported guess. What proof is there that it is fire? It barely looks similar. It doesn't burn anything. All it it has done is blow up a castle (without any fire being used.)
What are you talking about? I never said anything to that effect. If you're still trying to connect magic and a bomb beyond simply simile, it's not what I implied. And "assuming the assertion" makes very little sense. It shouldn't matter if it was shockwave or direct damage (I never used either phrase), there was an explosion that Ganondorf was in the middle of.
He couldn't have beaten Midna before, as we saw her attack finish. Eliminated. If it was combined forces, there wouldn't have been the delay between the pulse and explosion. Eliminated.
That's exactly what I said. No significant damage.
Beastie reverted to Gerudo upon sealing.
Corrected
Yes they do, the fact is that meteors are summoned on the target, thats what the spell does. Considering the animation itself is not necesserily credible the next best thing is just taking the average meteor and using its stats for a "summon meteor" spell. once again, this is where FF7 knowledge of mine would be useful if FF8 meteor was the same 🙁
How do you know he was "alive and healthy"?
Because it looks like fire. Even youve been calling it the flaming head.....
In the middle of, "eye of the storm" also wheres the assertion of an "explosion" coming from? we see the castle crashing down, almost imploding more so than exploding.
We saw her first attack finish, we dont see if it landed before the 4/5+ seconds the explosion happened at. That does not elminate that theory, your now assuming in the 5 seconds between midnas strike that nothing happened, we dont see what happened, another attack may have commenced as she may have attacked again to attempt to stop Ganondorfs counter, she failed obviously.
No percievable damage on his outside form.
The Master Sword has feats aplenty
Squall's Limit Break has none
Ganon tanks one, tanks twenty
Squall is over and done
Ganon's magic has speed and power
Rinoa cannot control
Her body, forced to cower
And watch Ganon steamroll
He's simply too much
In versatility and strength
The party can't claim such
And hope only for length
Originally posted by Burning thoughtYes they do, the fact is that meteors are summoned on the target, thats what the spell does. Considering the animation itself is not necesserily credible the next best thing is just taking the average meteor and using its stats for a "summon meteor" spell. once again, this is where FF7 knowledge of mine would be useful if FF8 meteor was the same 🙁
Real meteors and spells
Have little in common but tells
Is it a magical rock
Or nothing more than a crock?
How do you know he was "alive and healthy"?
Unimpaired speach and lack of a scar
Tells me a skull blow isn't really that far
Because it looks like fire. Even youve been calling it the flaming head.....
Resembling flame and mimicking it
Are very different things
If looks alone make me quit
Can flight be achieved without wings?
In the middle of, "eye of the storm" also wheres the assertion of an "explosion" coming from? we see the castle crashing down, almost imploding more so than exploding.
For objects tossed outward with dust
An explosion is a must
Unless you mean OoT
Where a collapse is what we see
We saw her first attack finish, we dont see if it landed before the 4/5+ seconds the explosion happened at. That does not elminate that theory, your now assuming in the 5 seconds between midnas strike that nothing happened, we dont see what happened, another attack may have commenced as she may have attacked again to attempt to stop Ganondorfs counter, she failed obviously.
Scene changes are funny that way
Messing with time and much
The teleported pair arrived and may
Have seen the past or such
No percievable damage on his outside form.
Quite right, none seen
Just pain in that scene
For any damage that mattered
With Master Sword must he be battered.
Wow, this thread took a turn for the strange real quick. 🤨
Aw heck, I'll join in anyway.
Sin wants to claim that Ganon is weak
But he can't seem to find the evidence he seeks
Evidence to Sin is something he just can't provide
So he thought he would get BT on his side
Little did they know it only made them look bad
To disregard logic like an tired old fad.
The evidence supports Ganon, which is obvious to all
Except Sin and BT who still favor Rinoa and Squall.
They thought it would be a nice little trick
To make tons of bold claims with nothing to back it
For as far as evidence is concerned they didn't much care
Di-spit all the holes in their arguments we tear.
Light Arrows are weak and Holy is strong
But there just isn't a happy ending for them in this song
For anyone with half a brain can easily see
that simply claiming something does not make it be
And that is their downfall, it's ever so clear
The end of this topic is drawing steadily near.
BT and Sin will never change pace
regardless of the logic we slam in their face.
Baseless claims loose and evidence wins
so we can all leave with big happy grins
Just remember to watch for those two before joining a thread
Least you have to depart with an awful pain in your head.
😎
Originally posted by TacDavey
Wow, this thread took a turn for the strange real quick. 🤨Aw heck, I'll join in anyway.
Sin wants to claim that Ganon is weak
But he can't seem to find the evidence he seeks
Evidence to Sin is something he just can't provide
So he thought he would get BT on his sideLittle did they know it only made them look bad
To disregard logic like an tired old fad.
The evidence supports Ganon, which is obvious to all
Except Sin and BT who still favor Rinoa and Squall.They thought it would be a nice little trick
To make tons of bold claims with nothing to back it
For as far as evidence is concerned they didn't much care
Di-spit all the holes in their arguments we tear.Light Arrows are weak and Holy is strong
But there just isn't a happy ending for them in this song
For anyone with half a brain can easily see
that simply claiming something does not make it beAnd that is their downfall, it's ever so clear
The end of this topic is drawing steadily near.
BT and Sin will never change pace
regardless of the logic we slam in their face.Baseless claims loose and evidence wins
so we can all leave with big happy grins
Just remember to watch for those two before joining a thread
Least you have to depart with an awful pain in your head.😎
TacDavey wins this thread. That was the best rhyme so far. 👆
Originally posted by TacDavey
Wow, this thread took a turn for the strange real quick. 🤨Aw heck, I'll join in anyway.
Sin wants to claim that Ganon is weak
But he can't seem to find the evidence he seeks
Evidence to Sin is something he just can't provide
So he thought he would get BT on his sideLittle did they know it only made them look bad
To disregard logic like an tired old fad.
The evidence supports Ganon, which is obvious to all
Except Sin and BT who still favor Rinoa and Squall.They thought it would be a nice little trick
To make tons of bold claims with nothing to back it
For as far as evidence is concerned they didn't much care
Di-spit all the holes in their arguments we tear.Light Arrows are weak and Holy is strong
But there just isn't a happy ending for them in this song
For anyone with half a brain can easily see
that simply claiming something does not make it beAnd that is their downfall, it's ever so clear
The end of this topic is drawing steadily near.
BT and Sin will never change pace
regardless of the logic we slam in their face.Baseless claims loose and evidence wins
so we can all leave with big happy grins
Just remember to watch for those two before joining a thread
Least you have to depart with an awful pain in your head.😎
Originally posted by The Scenario
Real meteors and spells
Have little in common but tells
Is it a magical rock
Or nothing more than a crock?Unimpaired speach and lack of a scar
Tells me a skull blow isn't really that farResembling flame and mimicking it
Are very different things
If looks alone make me quit
Can flight be achieved without wings?For objects tossed outward with dust
An explosion is a must
Unless you mean OoT
Where a collapse is what we seeScene changes are funny that way
Messing with time and much
The teleported pair arrived and may
Have seen the past or suchQuite right, none seen
Just pain in that scene
For any damage that mattered
With Master Sword must he be battered.
Meteors are all the same, their source e.g. space or a spell is irrelevant.
Id say getting up and wailing in agony does not=more than healthy.
Its a flaming head, otherwise theres nothing to claim Midna even began an attack other than "looks" it seems....trying to play silly bugger to try and save Ganon from being put out like a fire?
Dust and rubble are formed even in an implosion as the object being imploded can still give off dust and rubble, this is irrelevant because theres still no case for an intangible dorf having any feat benefit from this.
That sounds like yet another assumption, the castle also shook and then exploded after a crackling of light, Midnas stirke was quicker than the castle exploding.
Yeh in his own universe, considering a lot of fictional verses have more powerful weapons than a sword like FF8 with its holy, meteors and other high level spells Ganon is doomed as his base resistance is zero. His little energy balls make his shriek, he gets cleaved by the MS and impaled by the sages. The best he can hope for is to be impaled and that the FF8 party walk away and leave him...ofc this wont happen.