Originally posted by Burning thought
Meteors are all the same, their source e.g. space or a spell is irrelevant.
Do you honestly claim
All rocks are the same?
Discussing speed size and power
I could be here for an hour
Compositions of metal and frost
Can make one even more lost
A spellfire rock may be heard
As worthless as the word
Id say getting up and wailing in agony does not=more than healthy.
When compared to death impaled by ice
Simple pain is always nice
And no less than a few moments more
Perfectly fine for sure
Its a flaming head, otherwise theres nothing to claim Midna even began an attack other than "looks" it seems....trying to play silly bugger to try and save Ganon from being put out like a fire?
Arguing against evidence it seems
This debate haunts my dreams
Inventing a weakness to win
Is wearing logic thin
Try checking 2:43
Nary a burn I can see
If you still believe this true flame
Please present a better claim
Dust and rubble are formed even in an implosion as the object being imploded can still give off dust and rubble, this is irrelevant because theres still no case for an intangible dorf having any feat benefit from this.
But still pieces fly upward and out
From Ganondorf's mighty clout
That is not a collapse
Despite your synapse
Again the intangible flame
Only working when you want
You have only yourself to blame
When water fails its jaunt
That sounds like yet another assumption, the castle also shook and then exploded after a crackling of light, Midnas stirke was quicker than the castle exploding.
The time between teleport and attack
Is 30 seconds flat
Between arrival and destruction
12 seconds to function
Slow teleport to be sure
But time enough for her
Yeh in his own universe, considering a lot of fictional verses have more powerful weapons than a sword like FF8 with its holy, meteors and other high level spells Ganon is doomed as his base resistance is zero. His little energy balls make his shriek, he gets cleaved by the MS and impaled by the sages. The best he can hope for is to be impaled and that the FF8 party walk away and leave him...ofc this wont happen.
Again lack of feats
Leads to many defeats
I'm sorry to say
It's just not their day
An invisible Ganon and storm
Imprison the party and change their form
For a simple impalement
Solves all his ailment
And again he goes back to the norm
Ugh, and I thought this done
Alas, we continue to run
This debate to ground
For yet another round
Originally posted by The ScenarioProvided evidence, maintained rhyme, won thread.
Do you honestly claim
All rocks are the same?
Discussing speed size and power
I could be here for an hour
Compositions of metal and frost
Can make one even more lost
A spellfire rock may be heard
As worthless as the wordWhen compared to death impaled by ice
Simple pain is always nice
And no less than a few moments more
Perfectly fine for sureArguing against evidence it seems
This debate haunts my dreams
Inventing a weakness to win
Is wearing logic thinTry checking 2:43
Nary a burn I can see
If you still believe this true flame
Please present a better claimBut still pieces fly upward and out
From Ganondorf's mighty clout
That is not a collapse
Despite your synapseAgain the intangible flame
Only working when you want
You have only yourself to blame
When water fails its jauntThe time between teleport and attack
Is 30 seconds flat
Between arrival and destruction
12 seconds to function
Slow teleport to be sure
But time enough for herAgain lack of feats
Leads to many defeats
I'm sorry to say
It's just not their dayAn invisible Ganon and storm
Imprison the party and change their form
For a simple impalement
Solves all his ailment
And again he goes back to the normUgh, and I thought this done
Alas, we continue to run
This debate to ground
For yet another round
EPIC.
Originally posted by The Scenario
Do you honestly claim
All rocks are the same?
Discussing speed size and power
I could be here for an hour
Compositions of metal and frost
Can make one even more lost
A spellfire rock may be heard
As worthless as the wordWhen compared to death impaled by ice
Simple pain is always nice
And no less than a few moments more
Perfectly fine for sureArguing against evidence it seems
This debate haunts my dreams
Inventing a weakness to win
Is wearing logic thinTry checking 2:43
Nary a burn I can see
If you still believe this true flame
Please present a better claimBut still pieces fly upward and out
From Ganondorf's mighty clout
That is not a collapse
Despite your synapseAgain the intangible flame
Only working when you want
You have only yourself to blame
When water fails its jauntThe time between teleport and attack
Is 30 seconds flat
Between arrival and destruction
12 seconds to function
Slow teleport to be sure
But time enough for herAgain lack of feats
Leads to many defeats
I'm sorry to say
It's just not their dayAn invisible Ganon and storm
Imprison the party and change their form
For a simple impalement
Solves all his ailment
And again he goes back to the normUgh, and I thought this done
Alas, we continue to run
This debate to ground
For yet another round
No, not all rocks are the same but theres a fairly clear idea of what a meteor is.
Perfectly fine? hes sealed after acting like a brain dead monster, technically theres enough evidence there to suggest the brain may have been destroyed the way he roared and shook about like that, he didnt even attempt to do anything.
Your argueing that a head of fire is not going to be harmed by ice, thats like me argueing Kains mist form canot be touched by anything, be blown or have its particles affected in any way simply because its not shown. Thats what your doing, and yes its wearing logic thin.
Where would a burn be? the fiiery head did not touch anything....
12 seconds for any number of things to happen...her attack having had landed before then. We still dont see it land, what it does, who or what wrecked the castle and more so than anything, theres still feat for a LoZ character....
Basic spells do not need feats if Ganondorf has not resisted them, a meteor, a holy spell when Ganondorf has been shown weak to holy things like the MS/light arrows, even the simple frost spells would be nice ignoring the fact the team could just crush Dorf with their gun weapons and swords.
Originally posted by The Scenario
Again lack of feats
Leads to many defeats
I'm sorry to say
It's just not their dayAn invisible Ganon and storm
Imprison the party and change their form
For a simple impalement
Solves all his ailment
And again he goes back to the normUgh, and I thought this done
Alas, we continue to run
This debate to ground
For yet another round
My advice to thee
Is just leave it be.
For in the search of logic you'll only find naught
Should you look through a post written by Burning Thought.
The Premises are odd, the conclusions don't follow
The evidence is missing, the arguments are hollow.
Where this was once a debate, now it's turned to a song
As we've long since shown that their stances were wrong.
This painful debate has taken far too much time
As now we've decided to start speaking in rhyme.
They'll never accept what we know to be true
So there really isn't much more we can do.
The point was to debate and we've done that quite well
But now this is starting to feel more like hell.
So just forget about those two, I say
We should just pack up our things and call it a day.
😉
Originally posted by TacDavey
My advice to thee
Is just leave it be.
For in the search of logic you'll only find naught
Should you look through a post written by Burning Thought.The Premises are odd, the conclusions don't follow
The evidence is missing, the arguments are hollow.
Where this was once a debate, now it's turned to a song
As we've long since shown that their stances were wrong.This painful debate has taken far too much time
As now we've decided to start speaking in rhyme.
They'll never accept what we know to be true
So there really isn't much more we can do.The point was to debate and we've done that quite well
But now this is starting to feel more like hell.
So just forget about those two, I say
We should just pack up our things and call it a day.
😉
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Your clever words, and poem have inspired me once more,
to abuse rhyming words, like an economicly priced whore.
Henceforth from now, my posts will be lyrical,
also, it's true, BT's posts are hysterical.
I can see this thread getting off topic right quick
While we chase rhyming words like a dog with a stick.
But let us not forget exactly why we are needed,
To prove Ganon the victor and Squall the defeated.
The job would be simple if not for their knack
to disregard reasoning when they make an attack.
With evidence their points just might carry weight
But with none presented so far, I fear it's too late.
They claim a lot of things cause Ganon pain
like Limit Breaks, Alexander and Holy.... Insane.
If Light Arrows can only hope to provide a stun
How bad do you think he'll be when Holy is done?
"You never see Ganon get hit" is the argument behind which they hide.
But since Holy fades to white, can't the same reasoning be applied?
How do you know ANY animation is true
If you go SOLELY off of what is presented to you?
Of course logic is good when combined with common sense
And this easily blasts a huge hole in their defense.
But I can see, when looking at all the posts past
That this unfortunate truth won't get us anywhere fast.
Ganondorf gets defeated by the FF8 party.
Squall got his overpowered Lionheart
Rinoa has the power of Adel, a powerful dog, and go magic-berserk mode which makes her magic 5x more powerful
Selphie can end this fight instantly. If not, she can cure the all whole party or give the protection.
Quistis can use blue magic which includes shooting lasers, missiles, bullets, Bad Breath (makes Ganon blind, poisoned, mute, asleep, slow, confused, berserk, paralyzed, petrified, a zombie, and no physical defense), and a magic more powerful than Ultima. She can also heal the party and use Mighty Guard (gives everyone protection against physical attacks and magic, regeneration, superspeed, and the ability to float).
Zell has superstrength and cause earthquakes or explosions with his fists.
Irvine's rifle ammo include defense-penetrating lasers and even bigger lasers.
They all got GFs and can use magic.
Ganondorf doesn't stand a chance. They destroy the whole Zeldaverse including the 3 goddesses who can't even stop a sorcerer who gets defeated by a sword and arrows.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Ganondorf gets defeated by the FF8 party.Squall got his overpowered Lionheart
Rinoa has the power of Adel, a powerful dog, and go magic-berserk mode which makes her magic 5x more powerful
Selphie can end this fight instantly. If not, she can cure the all whole party or give the protection.
Quistis can use blue magic which includes shooting lasers, missiles, bullets, Bad Breath (makes Ganon blind, poisoned, mute, asleep, slow, confused, berserk, paralyzed, petrified, a zombie, and no physical defense), and a magic more powerful than Ultima. She can also heal the party and use Mighty Guard (gives everyone protection against physical attacks and magic, regeneration, superspeed, and the ability to float).
Zell has superstrength and cause earthquakes or explosions with his fists.
Irvine's rifle ammo include defense-penetrating lasers and even bigger lasers.
They all got GFs and can use magic.
Ganondorf doesn't stand a chance. They destroy the whole Zeldaverse including the 3 goddesses who can't even stop a sorcerer who gets defeated by a sword and arrows.
It's really too bad that you obviously thought
repeating these points makes them more valid but their not.
We've been over these once, then twice, and some more
Quite honestly at this point it's becoming a bore.
There just isn't time that we can really afford
To listen to you repeat yourself like a broken record.
Bring some new points or defend the old for all I care
But don't just repeat yourself, you must have something more to share.
Remember the talk we had long ago
About when making an argument there are things you must show?
Like evidence and reasoning to make your thought process and such
And how simply stating things as fact does not really show much.
But it seems that, for you, I must once more remind
That for an argument to be valid evidence you must find.
Simply stating the points and then leaving it at that
Will not help your case, and your argument falls flat.
If you though, for some reason, that this time around
Your argument would suddenly, magically become sound.
I'm here to tell you that that reasoning is wrong
I'm hoping this is the last time I have to say that in this song.
THE END OF THE THREAD
Ganon versus the crew; its the fight of the night.
Screampaste should have known that this isn't right.
When it comes to spite threads, he is the king.
He pits Zelda against characters who to them are nothing.
This thread is a joke, it should have been scrapped at page 2,
but some people thought they could defend the FF crew.
Sin and BT, they wont listen to reason.
They say, "Squall will kill Ganon when he sees him!"
Unfortunately for them, they are ignoring the facts
that Ganon, with a thought, could put them on their backs.
He did it to Midna in Twilight Princess
and she had the power of Fused Shadow in excess!
Not only could Ganondorf put the party through the wall,
he could also use his power to take over Squall.
It would be sad, but if they want to win
they would have to kill Squall, their friend.
Even if they could, it wouldn't matter,
Ganondorf would be fine, not a scratch or a tatter.
He would abuse their friendship and make it a weakness.
Not even Ultimecia could do something this devious.
With a mere thought Ganon creates matter.
He could make cookies without any batter. (Wtf?)
He levitates castles, of the cosmos, he is aware.
To fight him, only one with true Courage would dare.
Ganondorf is tough, one of the strongest game characters.
All who challenge him get carried off in body bags or on stretchers.
So, Squall and crew, remember, "This is it!"
Get ready to die, you pieces of sh1t!!!
😎
Originally posted by LLLLLink
THE END OF THE THREADGanon versus the crew; its the fight of the night.
Screampaste should have known that this isn't right.
When it comes to spite threads, he is the king.
He pits Zelda against characters who to them are nothing.This thread is a joke, it should have been scrapped at page 2,
but some people thought they could defend the FF crew.
Sin and BT, they wont listen to reason.
They say, "Squall will kill Ganon when he sees him!"Unfortunately for them, they are ignoring the facts
that Ganon, with a thought, could put them on their backs.
He did it to Midna in Twilight Princess
and she had the power of Fused Shadow in excess!Not only could Ganondorf put the party through the wall,
he could also use his power to take over Squall.
It would be sad, but if they want to win
they would have to kill Squall, their friend.Even if they could, it wouldn't matter,
Ganondorf would be fine, not a scratch or a tatter.
He would abuse their friendship and make it a weakness.
Not even Ultimecia could do something this devious.With a mere thought Ganon creates matter.
He could make cookies without any batter. (Wtf?)
He levitates castles, of the cosmos, he is aware.
To fight him, only one with true Courage would dare.Ganondorf is tough, one of the strongest game characters.
All who challenge him get carried off in body bags or on stretchers.
So, Squall and crew, remember, "This is it!"
Get ready to die, you pieces of sh1t!!!😎
Is this the end, do they have no reply?
At this point I'm not sure whether to laugh or to cry.
For despite all our logic and rational points, they have found (Notice the spelling THIS time, HA HA!)
The one true way to make their argument "sound".
Not "sound" as in rational, but a winner none the less
The cheap way to do it is put their patience to the test.
For when faced with an apposing argument you don't have to defeat it.
Just stick by your argument and endlessly repeat it.
Repeat it until they grow frustrated and their heads grow sore.
Repeat it until they just can't take anymore.
Repeat it more and more and more times
Repeat it until they've run out of their rhymes.
If technically winning is what you want, there's one way to do it
Since very few people can suffer all the way through it.
I, for one, favor logic as I'm sure you're all aware.
But against this tactic, it's really not fair.
But of course LLLLLink is absolutely right, you know.
For this topic, though fun, it just has to go.
It's been over a while, but we all decided to remain
Ganon has won, the FF party is slain.
Unless there's a retort with some evidence as well
We've all been waiting, but at this point I can tell
The only thing we're going to get, for all of their gumption
Is wild speculation and baseless assumption.
But I guess I can wait if they choose to surprise
But as of now, the FF8 party dies.
It's okay to be defeated, we won't throw it in your face
But methinks it's time to step down and loose with some grace.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Ganondorf gets defeated by the FF8 party.Squall got his overpowered Lionheart
Rinoa has the power of Adel, a powerful dog, and go magic-berserk mode which makes her magic 5x more powerful
Selphie can end this fight instantly. If not, she can cure the all whole party or give the protection.
Quistis can use blue magic which includes shooting lasers, missiles, bullets, Bad Breath (makes Ganon blind, poisoned, mute, asleep, slow, confused, berserk, paralyzed, petrified, a zombie, and no physical defense), and a magic more powerful than Ultima. She can also heal the party and use Mighty Guard (gives everyone protection against physical attacks and magic, regeneration, superspeed, and the ability to float).
Zell has superstrength and cause earthquakes or explosions with his fists.
Irvine's rifle ammo include defense-penetrating lasers and even bigger lasers.
They all got GFs and can use magic.
Ganondorf doesn't stand a chance. They destroy the whole Zeldaverse including the 3 goddesses who can't even stop a sorcerer who gets defeated by a sword and arrows.
This and...
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Lol.
Is this the only argument for the lollovelink club? although I admit the end of 5L poem made me lol irl...
Originally posted by Burning thought
This and...Is this the only argument for the lollovelink club? although I admit the end of 5L poem made me lol irl...
I hate to say "I told you so", I hate to say "I'm right"
But repetition is obviously the only weapon they brought to this fight.
For those points have already been shown to have no base.
So in response all I can say is, I rest my case.