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Originally posted by BloodRain
Humans dont move at Dantes speeds :/ Good amount, theres no full prediction, there is always control no matter what. Jump back, predicting an opponents attack at that speed is still better then anything Kains done... so... either way Dante's is faster. You know less so id jump off that if I were you, doing 'anything' at that speed is faster then 0.5, 0.2 much faster.Ahaha random opinions and deductions, thats pretty funny. Especially coming from you. Think ill answer in quick bursts: Yes it would, weight/speed/angle say so. Already proven, no. Heh, no. Kain + Raz = <100 tons = Fail here. You're in no position to 'let' me have the figures as you never had anything to take them away ^^ y'know, besides 'we' and several flawed ideas.
Central point is literally on one hand. 45 ton Raz, oh no `-` Lets try another one, holding back Nero's arm. Same arm that can lift huge bosses easily and lifting the Savior up. Seeing as youre 'given' to the figures, youve accept that Dante is stronger, why go on? No claims here, just proof. So now you admit to guess work, and think i know a bit more about the stance then you do. Things you have agreed to; it froze after contact and that he's stronger. Things that we all know; Dante has better reactions and is faster. So it is true that you want to believe it?
This is not even altered from the last point I replied to. You jsut copied and pasted your argument which is counted by prediction. Seems not, you are quite ignorant if you think humans gain superhuman reaction speed.
Ground not damaged, full extended arm just scraping Dantes sword. Saviour was not even fully hitting him and was frozen. No feat sorry.
Dantes shot in the head, beaten over and over by slow attacks from Vergil, beaten crapless by Nero and even seems to have some trouble avoiding the slow ass saviour. hes not got good reactions, he is faster but his reactions are poor ass and hes a sloppy fighter. Oh, and his pretty much physical based, Kain has a whole plethora of magical attacks and his PIS resistance. is higher than Dante can bring to bear on him. Dante lifts a what, bike that weighs a ton or more if I am being generous, Kain>100 tons. Speaks for itself.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Well, yeah. It's only fair since everyone in this thread is at their most powerful.Wouldn't mental defense be one of the abilities of the mind? Yeah.
It is a mind that doesn't do anything. The Nanites were built to override the person's control of their own brain. Kain can control Fury all he wants, but the Nanites are the ones with the real control.
Good luck with that. Durability, immunity to magical attacks, and force fields. Even if he manages to do that, he just makes more with the healing factor he gets from (I think) Lady Deathstrike.
Arguable if allowing himself access to actual entities not in the vs is the same as allowing access to a power source though.
No, that takes special technique, infact mental defence is a unique power alltogether.
Override the persons control, that means Kain can still MC it, and then they have to override it again, over and over etc etc.
Prove he can survive all the blood in his body spraying towards Kains position? he would arguably cause more damage to himself if we assume the blood cant get to Kain. His heart will fail.
Originally posted by Nephthys
*Shrug* Heres the fight, make of it what you will. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQEBQV50s6ABy controlling the angle of the blade he could make it so the bullets rolled down the blade, its certainly possible and shows a familiarity with the blade that Kain at least has never done, prefering to use large baseball-bat swings like he's a crazy person. And Dante is more or less on his level of swordsmanship. I have no idea what the rest of the paragraph is supposed to mean, but judging by the fact the bullets don't do this, he must have not just been spinning it. The only possible way would be for him to be using pure skill and reactions. Seriously, drop the point.
No, it proves that he has that level of reactions. Not only have we shown numerous supporting examples of Dantes level of reaction speeds and superspeed, but every one of your objections have been put down. Dante>Kain, accept it.
Only becuase they're leaving after-images. If you watch again you'll see that there are numerous attacks happening at once, they are clearly moving much faster than humanly possible.
It doesn't matter how long Dante takes, to the toads he's moving faster than a blur. They are literally immobile in mid-air while Dante super-speeds his way through preperations. Kain would be similarly immobile.
Ad hominim (sp?) attacks will not work against me. Me not playing the games do not change the fact that I am right and you are wrong. And please. You are the most bias person I've ever met. Every Kain thread draws you, you always argue for him, even against opponents where he's clearly overmatched and he's in your sig. The only way you could be more bias is if you moved to Japan and married him. 🙄
Dante will most certainly be expecting, as he's [b]in battle
. He's not expecting a frickin' cake here, he's expecting an attack. Dante has reacted to a shot from the back before casually. On-screen proof that he could react to Kain teleporting behind him. And I imagine hacking him into cubes and drop-kicking the pieces miles a way would do. Or maybe just hack his head off. As Screampaste says, he only needs to incapacitate him.You can't mind-control what has no mind. [/B]
What? no thats impossible, the bullets would fall off a sword so thin, theres no way any control of the blade could result in him lining them up so neatly. Dante being bested several times says otherwise. We can see him just spinning it, you assuming he was doing more than that is folly bias. So drop the point....
None of my objections have been put down, nice denile and assumption though. The guy gets shot in the head and then luckily takes a bullet in the teeth. Considering his mouth was hardly open its more likely. Nothing supports him being able to conciously catch a bullet in his teeth, slow jabs in the chest, impalements, beaten up by Nero and having a hard time escaping saviour say otherwise not to mension getting shot in the head beforehand, if he had reacted then and there then that would be reaction time, he didnt.
Their possibly moving slightly faster than they were when they were slowly moving consistently beforehand. We can track their swords with ease.
Seems not because we can see them moving slowly and hopping about as he slowly pulls out a chain gun and a rocket launcher. Its only once thieir in the air that they seem to freeze. Just looks like styalised graphic as Dante does not move any quicker than he does with the chain gun. No because Kain has better reactions than Dante who predicts, Kain can bring to bear all his senses in 0.2. Ive seen nothing from Dante to suggest hes faster than 0.5+, its more likely based on evidence Kain will be seen as a blur.
No it means you are utterly clueless and have less knowledge than I do by 4 games worth, you dont even know the main charatcer of one of the games for crying out loud. I am bias because I argue in all his threads? just shows how poor your understanding of what bias actually means is doesnt it really....almost as bad as your knowledge on DMC.
Hes reacting to someone a human would be able to sense behind them. Kains going to be appearing out of nowhere at speeds Dante will not be able to react to and whats more, a mere movement of the head is not going to dodge a sword. Kains got mist form to escape physical harm and Kains taken more punishment in a fraction of a square inch on his body than Dante can dish out in a slash.
It does have a mind.....nick fury is not a nanite, he just so happens to have nanites that can override his mind.