YouTube video 1.07 And evidence that his speed is anything but human. ^^
Hah don't leave out the other 3 😛
Don't forget that humans can also do this: YouTube video
Originally posted by BloodRain
With Arkham he wasnt yet bested though as it was Spardas powers its given. Mundas didnt beat Dante :/That mean he's aloud the skills he has in that game?
Skills and immunities (it's stated he completely immune to dark magic here). Though it's DMC2 stats and I thought the debate features Dante with feats\stats from 3-1-4 and canonical material inbetween (manga&anime), thus I'm not sure they're valid to use.
Originally posted by Nephthys
You hit the nail on the head with "styalised reality", this is not real physics at work at that point. we could bend truth a little and give them their other feats but in this case, all hes doing is spinning his sword like a fan, and through some "style force" was able to not only catch them all with this instead of chopping them up or knocking them across the field but line them up neatly. They were not even hot.
In a real physics world, all we see is him spinning the blade. You cant just add on feats because what we see is not working for your argument. Dont try and play the "its a game, it has limits" card, they have according to you shown them moving at incredible speeds in slow mo before, they could easily do the same here and show us Vergil slowly catching each bullet in slowmo.
How can he pay attension to Kain whos not even there? he doesnt even know when Kain will teleport, re-apear etc. Dante has less prediction than he does with lady at that point. You pointed out something useful though, all the experiments with peoples reaction times are based on prediction, they know what light they have to look at for flashing, tehy know what button to press. All prediction but the source actuall states that the 0.3 figuire of reaction of stimulas is enhanced by the things your listing, how easily they can predict their target. Dantes going to be reacting at 0.5+ since as shown, he cannot consistently actually react to things off the bat at 0.2 or less.
Its luck because he more or less had his mouth closed, he didnt react to it. Just like he didnt react to a bullet in his head. And if you had even seen the scene, Dante was not "playing" anything once he was being beaten shitless, we even see him almost turing into his devil form when being beaten on the ground. He even points out that he underestimated Nero so maybe those people who disagree with me on that should re-watch/play the scene.
Your trying to argue that fighting to Vergil exausted Dante or something? lol.....Dante was fine at the beginning of the fight, he was tired halfway through after getting beaten several times at swordsmanship.
The toads were just styalised wen slowing down. Dante did nothing more than when he slowly got out the minigun and rocket launcher.
Randomly slashing? he slashes once after every teleport, every teleport takes him from the world so his senses have to re-align themselves unlike in a typical physical fight after every 0.2, he has no prediction possible because his opponents even despite being slower than him are still moving. He teleports almost expertly behind them or at an angle they cannot even defend from. One slash, one kill. 0.2>0.5, 0.2 human stimulas, 0.2 Kains entire reaction and attack+decision making.
Nice bit of self love there, by god you need it but its not working. Your not winning anything. I argue in favour of a character I like debating therefore I am bias? 🙄 how daft....seems by your logic your bias for Dante, as is the opposition bias for all their characters.
Kain doing the smae thing would be daft, Kain would not be in that situation as he could simply mist or teleport. Considering Kain has better speed and sens than a human, predicting a girl behind him which he already knew carried a gun would be a little easy for him. Ofc dodging bullets is not Kains"style", he would just wait for it to bounce off of his back and drop below.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
So he does have feats of being able to affect minds and such, not just metal. Also Magnetos helmet is supposed to protect him from Xaviours mind powers because its made out of the stuff as Cerebro. Not 100% sure but thats what I read a while ago, its also in the X men movie but i am not sure how canon that is.
So kain could absorb them then if he MCed, good to know.
So your saying, LT with all his power cannot form magic enough to damage her? he would have to use cosmic blasts? 🙄
If you knew anything about Kain (seems you dont) is that if he is forced into a spirit form, then he cannot actually fight. I was saying that Kain is defeated if he has that happen to him.
How do I know its omega energy? can you show me darksied by himself doing something similiar please?
Originally posted by BloodRain
Several wikis actually, many tests. If you bothered to even look at them instead of continueing your blind bias you would find out they also link to each of their tests and more. And no, Dante has no martial arts training or reaction time training, hence why hes beaten by slow things.
Your just saying "yez coz I am correctz" now, Ill just counter this by doing the same. "no he did not hold it, no the ground would not be hardly damaged under such force".
He was beaten up by Nero, he was beaten by Vergil, he was swallowed by Echidna I think, or eaten and he was punted away by a punch by the saviour. Ofc a human would evade, do you think soldiers in war get shot as soon as an opponent opens fire? this has never been the case, anyone alreayd moving or anyone with human reactions could with prediction attempt a good enough dodge, not quite just by moving the body part being aimed up but they could dive/jodge.
Since when? since most of Dantes/links feats were through lifting? redundant. Links never pushed a 500 ton pillar.
Its nothing about Dante, its frozen as we see when the camera pans out, nice ignoring the cutscene though. He didnt stop it, it froze after giving him a little scrape, hence why your figuire of 2k hitting Dante at the speeds you claim would outline how the ground itself would shatter, perhaps cause a tremur or at the very least, push Dante deep into the ground.
master? based on? I would like you to prove he is considered a "master" in these combat styles and with these weapons. I dont remember this being claimed in the games and his sloppy fighting against Vergil and Nero sort of contradict this. Tbh in his cutscenes we dont see much swordplay, he usually does more running and dodging. B: yes it is, you have no idea how RT works which is why your floundering and misunderstanding. If Kain is moving it takes longer for reactions to work, if Kains not even physically present and in no way predictable then he is pretty much impossible to react to.
Dimensions? so.....whats that got to do with mist form..lol sonic shamed of Dante? 😆 I know little of Sonic, perhaps even less than you do about Kain and I know enough to say thats a bit of a joke. Alex never "took" it, he became a puddle after that nuke. The spartan is slow. Kains vast powers, near imporality and nigh invulerability>>>3 lesser entities. No its more the other way round, KMC can all be against me and they would still lose to Kain, oh look, its happening right now.
-yes, "detect", thats nothing about moving or actually reacting to it. Technically someone blinking because a punch flies past their face is a reaction.
-0.33 just to detect stimulas, incredible. kain can actually do all this in 0.2 and make concious decisions based on an actual fight.
-yes the mean time to detect stimulas. Not actually make a decision.
-Dante is not being told not to move, he does move and he does know shes there. Hes been shot in the head, from the front before when he didnt know she was going to do it. When he could not predict.
-I dont just accepted to feats, I have personally seem them while playing, all of the games.
-I can because theres a little thing called consistency. its one of the few actual sources that we can gauge above human speed for him, and even thats arguable. Dantes been beaten consistently by slow moves, twice if not three times in the same vid your refering to.
-0.1 is human stimulas, 0.2 is Kains actual action, 0.5 is human/dante action. over 5 piecies of evidence state around 0.3 for stimulas reaction, not actual action based on tests of prediction, Dante does not have this prediction that he enjoys so much with Kain, infact he has no prediction.
No weight at all, he just overbalanced it and it fell. He didnt beat any of its weight as it had already done that itself by freezing. It would be like me holding my fist in the air, anyone even a child could move it still, they dont have to beat my weight or even my arms.
Doesnt sound like it was busted to me, your descirbing how human/pig teeth were not durable enough not describing how there was no way a human could catch a bullet on their teeth. Dante got shot in the mouth and he more or less had his mouth closed.
I never said the "same" heat did I, tbh I dont have figuires to be exact on how much heat Dante was making, only that he was only just fast enough to reach his falling sword while he himself was aided by gravity.
If they have been consistently been hit by blows of over 0.2-0.5 then obviously their not able to react faster.
So he does have feats of being able to affect minds and such, not just metal. Also Magnetos helmet is supposed to protect him from Xaviours mind powers because its made out of the stuff as Cerebro. Not 100% sure but thats what I read a while ago, its also in the X men movie but i am not sure how canon that is.
He used his powers to counter their psionics and jam their signal he can't actually control or prode someone's mind. Magneto is naturally resistant to telepathy he has battled Charles helmetless before.
My lord did you just reference the movies as your proof? That's about as credible as me saying Kain can't beat fairies because they have proven to be his weakness in this little fanfiction I wrote. To help you out with the movie's in question I'll just say that Juggernaut was a mutant, Wolverine could pierce Juggernaut's skin, the Phoenix was an alternate personality, not a cosmic force, and Magneto couldn't resist telepathy without his helmet.
So kain could absorb them then if he MCed, good to know.
What? What is this even pertaining to?
So your saying, LT with all his power cannot form magic enough to damage her? he would have to use cosmic blasts? roll eyes (sarcastic)
I'm saying there's no need and this is a horrible example since Kain's sorcery is nowhere near the level of LT. He wouldn't have to use a cosmic blast at all to deal with her. He doesn't do magic either, I don't understand why you don't understand this.
If you knew anything about Kain (seems you dont) is that if he is forced into a spirit form, then he cannot actually fight. I was saying that Kain is defeated if he has that happen to him.That spirit would be sent through so many hells after Darkseid/Kahn hit him.
How do I know its omega energy? can you show me darksied by himself doing something similiar please?
His main power, the Omega Effect, is a form of energy that he fires as either concussive force or beams of disintegration, capable of transmuting or erasing most living objects and organisms from existence as well as to reform or resurrect them. Anything Darkseid disintegrates with the Omega Effect can be brought back at any time by him, and he often uses this as a form of punishment. Darkseid has pinpoint control over his Omega Beams, and his unerring aim allows them to travel in straight lines, bend, twist, or curve around corners, and can pass through matter and energy. The Omega Effect can also be used to teleport Darkseid or others through time and space. Darkseid can also project the Omega Effect as energy blasts from his hands. Another type of Omega Effect is the Omega Sanction, that traps the organism in a series of alternate realities, each worse than the previous one.
Moves from the game: Special Moves:
Omega Beam: B, B, X
Anti-Air Omega Beam: B, B, Y
Omega Tremor: D, D, B
Omega Knee: B, F, B
Omega Force: D, B, A
Pro Moves:
Omega Force with Head Smash: D, B, A, * X + Y
(*Wait until Darkseid lands)
Double Anti-Air Omega Beam: B, B, Y, B, B, X
(*Wait until beam hits)
See the red energy? That's the Omega Energy
Fifth combo also shows him using it as beams.
knew i had forgotten something...
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Magneto doesn't have TK, he has magnetic field manipulation. It is incredibly different and does not speak totally for the strength of his mind. Justice easily has the strength as Kain has never TK'd more than, what, say, a normal human? 200 pounds max, and that is rather generous for humans in that condition.The Nanites as a whole have their own consciousness. This is how they were able to discover that they can share powers of those they infected and learned to override their human controllers. None of this leaves Kain any time to screw Fury over. He can't do anything at all. Duplication is effortless and very fast.
That video does not support your point of the Nanites taking over immediately. The Fold's consciousness existed long before it made those four villains turn on the heroes, it merely knew better than to risk itself by exposing its existence too early. Besides, Nanite Nick Fury is already infected anyway.
If you cannot prove it, how does it hit more than one target? Kain also has to know which one is the original in order to destroy it. He must also deal with the duplicates that the original created, Dark Khan, and whatever that third person's name is.
This is going on inside her head, not a fight of physical telekinetic force so what they can each lift is irrelevant. And Kain has lifted a man in armour with ease, so human body weight+suit of armour.
unimportant tbh.
It means that he can take over the mind again and again and the nanites would have to take control, again and again. I could see them taking some time in your vid. Also show me how he makes duplicates. Also how do you know the nanites can override or even attempt to do so more than once?
Because I know it does, you just dont.