Darth Maul vs Kas'im

Red Nemesis
It seems like it was Djem So, because he is so strong? I don't have the link to the Russian site anymore so I can't help you. Actually, could somebody post that please?

But my guess is that he spec'd Djem So, with an added emphasis on everything else. (He memorized everything i think, as can be seen by him teaching Zannah.)

You misunderstand me: it is my understanding that Bane had not mastered any particular form. He is a Djem So practitioner, but I believe it was previously established that he had not mastered it. I was checking for clarification before I proceeded.

I can't find the exact quote, but Wookiepedia says the following:

"A master practitioner of Djem So, Darth Bane was a deadly lightsaber duelist."

The source in question was Rule of Two.

wiki doesn't count without a page number though.

truejedi
wiki doesn't count without a page number though.

Bingo.

And I can't very well proceed until I know. For some reason, I'm thinking Exodus may have dropped that bombshell.

Is Bane's level of proficiency in ROT have anything to do with the skill level of Kas'sim in POD? I think not. Even if he was the master of seven form in ROT, it could be argued he learned some from Holocrons, and not from Kas'sim.

Originally posted by Gideon
Bingo.

And I can't very well proceed until I know. For some reason, I'm thinking Exodus may have dropped that bombshell.

Hey!

Here is a quote from PoD I found relevant.

Bane had begun by learning the basic techniques common to all seven traditional lightsaber forms. His first weeks had been spent in endless repetitions of defensive postures, overhand strikes, parries, and counter-strikes. By observing the natural tendencies of his students as they learned the basics, Lord Kas’im determined which form would best match their style. For Bane he chose Djem So, Form V. The fifth form emphasized strength and power, allowing Bane to use his size and muscles to his best advantage. Only after he was able to perform each of the moves of Djem So to the satisfaction of Kas’im was he allowed to begin the real training.

I can infer that Bane focused on Form V, and was extensively trained in it by Kas'im. Other than that... RoT has 2 references to Djem So, the first of which, was when he sliced open a mercenary's skull (pg 18), the other, when he was instructing Zannah, saying she lacked the power required for Djem So (pg 116).

So basially, Kas'sim knew all 7 styles well enough to teach them. (which is the highest knowledge someone can have of something physical like that.)

truejedi
So basially, Kas'sim knew all 7 styles well enough to teach them. (which is the highest knowledge someone can have of something physical like that.)

Count Dooku was one of the Jedi Temple's lightsaber instructors and claimed to be able to "demonstrate responses" from each and every member of the High Council during the Clone Wars.

Vader's style, four weeks after Revenge of the Sith, borrowed from all lightsaber styles -- even the highest levels.

Yet neither of them were said to be absolute masters of all seven forms. The second I can get a definite answer on Bane's own level of knowledge, we'll proceed.

You'll have to look at his books yourself. As noted, I have lost the Russian link.

sweu.ru seems at first glance to have been rendered inaccessible. If anyone cares to try and register, have fun.

What's up with the password?

Translated, the thingamajig reads

Very soon, this place will be completely new, cool and regularly updated SWEU. Hold out a couple of NEDELEC🙂

Very soon, this place will be completely new, cool and regularly updated SWEU. Hold out some three weeks

Originally posted by Gideon

Yet neither of them were said to be absolute masters of all seven forms. The second I can get a definite answer on Bane's own level of knowledge, we'll proceed.

I doubt an answer exists. The advantage of having PoD and RoT as pdf documents, is I can search for key words. Djem So, Form V, and master, all yielded no results. All we can deduce is that Bane was a notable practitioner, with extensive training from Kas'im.

Gideon you might have to establish it yourself. (This has the added benefit of the level being whatever is most beneficial to your argument.)

Spoiler:
And the hidden benefit of giving me another platform to undermine.

Btw: You can get PoD here:
w w w .hungry-ewok.ru/sw/eng/db_1_pod.zip

🙂

Kas'im has a greater degree of technical skill and combat experience than does Maul, making him the victor in any clash of blades between the two.

What is the perceived link between this fight and the number of forms mastered by Bane? That is a bit of an aside.

Bane is the only metric we have to judge Kas'im. It is perfectly reasonable to look for a way to quantify that.