GalacticStorm
Smart Alec Know-It-All
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Do you have any idea what Meggan had to do to stop the Chaos Wave? Or are you just going to label her as a sub-herald character and hope that suffices?
I know exactly what Meggan had to do to stop the Chaos Wave because we're told quite clearly on panel:
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Is this yet more on panel evidence that you've overlooked? Clear as day it states that Meggan absorbed dimensional energies of reality and used these against the Chaos Wave. That is why i posted this scan previously and labelled her as a sub herald character because that is what she is and the scan as clear as it is needs no breakdown. Or so i thought 😂
Unless you want to now argue that for this one issue that Meggan was amped into a huge cosmic power and thats why she could stop the wave? 😕
Let it go. Put pride aside and go with what the storyline explicitly depicts. We're debating to get out the truth behind storylines, not to find any possible vague statement or instance that we can possibly use to back our own personal opinion on the way things should be. Remember that.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And have you still ignored that concerning the 616 universe, its reality/history has been rewritten, screwed around with dozens of times on-panel, and not once has this caused a tidal wave of chaos to rip through all alternate universes?
Rogue in her early days was heralded as invulnerable, she shrugged off energy attacks and projectiles only to in one storyline featuring her and Wolverine be shown that shes not as invulnerable as she thought by being nearly killed by an energy based weapon. Because many many stories previously show her shrugging off such attacks are we as readers supposed to then look at any way we can to explain away this instance or are we to accept what we're clearly shown? Things change my friend, hierarchies, the status quo, what previously might have seemed unlikely or impossible could be very possible and depicted in the next big storyline. Its progression. You cant keep the same status for everything and work within that rigid structure otherwise that will quickly lead to boring storylines.
Wanda is an amateur reality warper. It was only with this storyline that we found out that thats what she actually was and it was with this storyline that we were told she couldnt control her power and that she required aid from Xavier and Pietro to bring about HOM.
Given that thats what we're actually told we're given a possible explanation for why this reality tampering resulted in a breach of 616's dimensional wall. Its a possible explanation that us readers can get from reading the main HOM title, whether thats actually the case or not who knows? It is all irrelevant. We dont need to be given an explanation of why this Chaos Wave breached the dimensional wall, to just accept that thats what it did. Just like i dont need to know the inner workings of Hanks Pym Particles to explain how they can change his size and density. I just need to know that they have and can done, so then i can refer to his ability to do so in forum battles.
Because you have no other avenue to argue, what you cannot do is make up an explanation for this Chaos Wave when none is given on panel. All we're told is that there has been a reality warp in 616 which we know is Wandas HOM, we're then told it has breached the dimensional wall. We do not need an explanation for why it has done so and we are not given one. So once again i will reiterate that you cannot then fabricate the idea that Wanda consciously willed this Chaos Wave into being and sent it to Otherworld. That is an unsupported fabrication. That will not be accepted here.
Deal with what we know and what we're clearly told. Wandas only participation here is the alteration, the creation of HOM. The Chaos Wave that followed is not explicitly or even implicitly shown to be a consciously created, directed and sustained creation of Wandas. All we are told is that the alteration triggered the tear and that the Chaos Wave has leaked through. Simple. Facts over fabrication.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And I can't even understand whether you're now acting like that Otherworld scan doesn't involve Wanda's Chaos Wave or not.
I made myself very clear ODG. Youre intelligent enough to know exactly what i was saying. Throughout that big post i repeated myself in every paragraph to drill the message home. That Otherworld scan shows the Chaos Wave colliding with Otherworld. As explicitly stated a page or two before that scan, Otherworld as a primary intersection of realities as a place where all realities are connected and accessible from, is a keystone of reality. Otherworld was struck, many but conclusively not all realities collapsed into one another.
It conclusively was not a case of this Chaos Wave reaching out into all realities directly and simultaneously collapsing them. The keystone(Otherworld) was compromised and THAT resulted in the collapse of these realities.
That demotes what the Chaos Wave did exponentially. It was no multiversal power and no multiversal feat. It was a trans temporal and very universal manifestation, triggered by Wandas reality alterations that collided with Otherworld and caused Chaos.
It was confronted by a team of sub herald characters and they stopped it. Simple. Theres no getting away from that fact. 😬
