Originally posted by leonheartmm
he never KILLED them. he destroyed the crystal and ended the universe's reason for existance, bringing out necron. if they were dead then how did he teleport them out of the collapsing hill of despair to the lifa tree?
1. The crystal was never destroyed
2. Kuja killed the party
3. Eternal Darkness [Necron]
Monster created by fear of death
A being awoken by the fear, despair, and hatred of Kuja, who discovered, with the fulfillment of his ambition near, that he had little time left to live. It rejects the cycle of life through the crystal and attempts to return every world, including Terra and Gaia, to nothing. The final enemy to confront Zidane’s team.
Which makes perfect sense because Necron showed up to destroy the crystal (which was apparently already destroyed) and end all existence (which was supposedly also destroyed) whilst the party SURVIVES the destruction of the universe (which didn't happen), I've never thought of that ermm
Well I'll give you half a kudo, the party did survive one ultima attack from trance Kuja though it was definitely not near his full power.
I don't know exactly how Kuja did it or the relevancy in it, but he did use the last of his power to teleport the party out after the battle.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
3. That's not stated in the Ultimania, though. Yes, Trance is part of Zidane's abilities, which Kuja lacked. Zidane's lifespan as well as his emotions are included as part of his superiority. 'Superior' doesn't necessarily translates to: Power alone.
Ahem. Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but I do believe the exact quote taken from the game was Garland saying that Kuja could not stand seeing a Genome more powerful than himself. It's been a while since I played the game, and I'm too lazy to find a clip on Youtube at the moment, but I'm pretty sure those were his words.
Originally posted by TacDavey
Ahem. Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but I do believe the exact quote taken from the game was Garland saying that Kuja could not stand seeing a Genome more [B]powerful than himself. It's been a while since I played the game, and I'm too lazy to find a clip on Youtube at the moment, but I'm pretty sure those were his words. [/B]
I guess he said powerful, I don't see how that contradicts what I said, though. Why you bold 'powerful'?
Originally posted by Kuja9001
1. The crystal was never destroyed
2. Kuja killed the party
7.20= Crystal looks pretty darn not there anymore.
Party looks pretty darn not dead.
Edit: 7.50 Hey! George Lucas ripped off FF9!!!!!! >😮
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
I guess he said powerful, I don't see how that contradicts what I said, though. Why you bold 'powerful'?
You seemed to suggest that Zidane was "superior" to Kuja because he could go into Trance and has emotions and not a limited life span. But Garland specifically says Zidane was made to be more powerful. Meaning Zidane isn't simply made better, he's made to be stronger than Kuja.
Originally posted by Nephthys7.20= Crystal looks pretty darn not there anymore.
Party looks pretty darn not dead.
Edit: 7.50 Hey! George Lucas ripped off FF9!!!!!! >😮
I think they moved to a new location. Zidane says "where is this?" So the crystal not being there doesn't mean it was destroyed necessarily. It's just back in the other place.
Originally posted by Nephthys
YouTube video[B]7.20= Crystal looks pretty darn not there anymore.
Party looks pretty darn not dead.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
1. Ultima clearly burned up or disintegrated the entire party.
2. If you didn't notice they're in an entirely different dimension and if you can't hear the moaning, screaming, and stuff in the background then you need a hearing aid.
Originally posted by TacDavey
You seemed to suggest that Zidane was "superior" to Kuja because he could go into Trance and has emotions and not a limited life span. But Garland specifically says Zidane was made to be more powerful. Meaning Zidane isn't simply made better, he's made to be stronger than Kuja.
I never suggested anything, that's stated in the Ultimania. Yes, Zidane is more powerful because he has Trance.
Originally posted by Nephthys
YouTube video7.20= Crystal looks pretty darn not there anymore.
Party looks pretty darn not dead.
Edit: 7.50 Hey! George Lucas ripped off FF9!!!!!! >😮
Because that is the point where they are dead and no longer at where they battled Kuja.
Once again, if that crystal was to end all existence in the universe and it was destroyed by then. Why would everyone still be alive and Necron appear to destroy the crystal AGAIN...
thats INGAME. plus the whole in game arena was destroyed after ultima{this is when trance kuja goes flying through the revolving ring which holds the crystal. and i think(even though i might be mistaken) that necron specifically SAID some thing like "now that the crysal is destroyed, there is no reason for this world to continue, come and enter the nothingness that you desire". actually the very reason necron came out was because of the destruction of the crystal.i.e. the party never died.
I give up here you go
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Necron
http://faqs.ign.com/articles/657/657330p1.html
Read all of them, parts of them, none of them.
Fact still remains, crystal not destroyed.
Necron is there to end everything and there is no possible way to destroy an already destroyed universe.
Very reason he came out was due to Kuja.
There is a video above you where he doesn't mention what you said, but he does mention he is there to destroy everything. 😐
the wikia articles are oppinions. what do you think kuja was doing with ultima, why do you think he himself was blown away. the reason necron escaped was because he destroyed the crystal. NOTHING says that any1 in the party died. infact if they died then why were they all acting like they were wounded, and how were the others able to transfer their vitality and lifeforce into the main 4 for the fight. they were fighting for their LIVES, hence the will to live.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
the reason necron escaped was because he destroyed the crystal
You can't read
. Eternal Darkness [Necron]
Monster created by fear of death
A being awoken by the fear, despair, and hatred of Kuja, who discovered, with the fulfillment of his ambition near, that he had little time left to live. It rejects the cycle of life through the crystal and attempts to return every world, including Terra and Gaia, to nothing. The final enemy to confront Zidane's team.
Originally posted by Nephthys
There is nothing suggesting that the party died. Thats ridiculous.I will point out that Kuja said that all life would end if he destroyed the crystal, not how. Necron could easily be that how (given that his stated goal is the destruction of everything).
And Zidane tanking Ultima is also ridiculous. He has no feats. Just his Trance which pretty much says nothing since we don't have a frame of reference.