Pokeverse v.s. FFverse

Originally posted by Cyner
I don't really care for this thread but I will say that FF's main power in this thread is Bartz, who has the ability to mimic any ability from any of his teammates(plus any he learned on his own), which in this thread includes all of FFdom. So Bartz mimics all of the other's powers at once and becomes Ultra Bartz and then stomps pokeverse. The end.

And the other multiple Gogos

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You failed to answer about the casting limit. Besides, Taunt says hello.

You don't cure a Curse, that's why Pokemon don't cure it. >_>

Interesting, now if only Rattata weren't capable of easily dodging those needles.

Funny, you seem to think being captured by a human matters. DBZ characters attacks can be seen from space, too, but that doesn't mean they'd beat Giritina. Nor does crossing dimensions. 😆 When I said Giritina can easily and literally annihilate Sin, I meant it. Watch the Darkrai movie. Darkrai himself is capable of incredible defensive ability, and he was disintegrated.

I don't know where you guys get these ideas. So, what do Wild Pokemon do to survive? How is it possible for something like, say, the Shiny Metagross to become as powerful as it was without battling?

So you're saying Grass and Bug types cannot escape a Grass type attack? If it is as easy as you say, couldn't said Grass type merely use Razor Leaf or Cut? And a Bug Pokemon, shit, their attacks are super effective on Grass types. Escape should be as simple as an X-Scissor or even a Signal Beam.

Are you insane? A Leech Seed attached to an Undead will magically sap energy from the user, who, mind you, is not attached to a Leech Seed, and is arguably 5+ feet away?

None of the pokemon hit harder than vegeta at the least from the saiyan saga, he was blowing up planets by then ermm

The only thing that was causing the disruption of space and time was Dialga and Palkia fighting which was damaging what each respectively controlled, the best they could do on a DBZ character is age them to death or completely erase them which I'm guessing they are capable of if they can reverse things in time and recreate what was destroyed in their battle, but a hit from a DBZ character is death, Arceus got F'd up by a meteor 😬

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I'm not so sure about the Sin argument but when you think about it, this thread could be a draw. I mean both sides have universe raping beings at their disposal and all those that can make another one should their universe get destroyed. In the long run this is just a race to see who can destroy the universe first which would look pretty cool if it were aired on tv.

Seems it would be a one season show until the fans would want each other dead... poor Brock hope he doesn't go for a FF girl haermm

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You failed to answer about the casting limit. Besides, Taunt says hello.

Auto-Life can be used once for each character unless the spell has already taken effect. Taunt would only affect the protagonists.

You don't cure a Curse, that's why Pokemon don't cure it. >_>

Just because Pokemon can't cure it doesn't mean Final Fantasy can. No Pokemon would cure itself of Doom, Zombie, Sap, FF Curse, Stop, Mini, Toad, or Piggy.

Interesting, now if only Rattata weren't capable of easily dodging those needles.

1000 needles will hit the Rattata.

Funny, you seem to think being captured by a human matters.

Being captured by a human proves how vulnerable it would be. If it can't fight off a human, it's not doing anything to Sin.

DBZ characters attacks can be seen from space, too, but that doesn't mean they'd beat Giritina. Nor does crossing dimensions. 😆

😆 Yamcha alone would beat Giratina. This is just proof that you're wanking Pokemon. DBZ characters cause natural disasters by charging up and can move way faster. You don't see them getting captured by humans.

When I said Giritina can easily and literally annihilate Sin, I meant it. Watch the Darkrai movie. Darkrai himself is capable of incredible defensive ability, and he was disintegrated.

Annihilate Sin? Giratina was almost killed by Zero, a human. Sin would destroy Giratina. And I can't watch Pokemon like I used to. Best show me clips of it. From what I read in the summary, Darkrai doesn't die.

I don't know where you guys get these ideas. So, what do Wild Pokemon do to survive? How is it possible for something like, say, the Shiny Metagross to become as powerful as it was without battling?

It's common sense that wild Pokemon are lesser than trained Pokemon. Even I knew back when I was a Pokemaniac. You don't see wild Pokemon using TMs.

So you're saying Grass and Bug types cannot escape a Grass type attack? If it is as easy as you say, couldn't said Grass type merely use Razor Leaf or Cut? And a Bug Pokemon, shit, their attacks are super effective on Grass types. Escape should be as simple as an X-Scissor or even a Signal Beam.

Try telling that to Venonat. It's not gonna escape.

Are you insane? A Leech Seed attached to an Undead will magically sap energy from the user, who, mind you, is not attached to a Leech Seed, and is arguably 5+ feet away?

Drain is also a long distance attack and it still has opposite effects to the undead. I know what I'm talking about.

YouTube video

And that's just Odin's Gungir. His Zantestuken would rip Giratina apart.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia

And that's just Odin's Gungir. His Zantestuken would rip Giratina apart.

Nah, Giratina uses Shadow Force to dodge/counterattack.

"It will hit even if the foe has used Protect or Detect on the second turn and like Feint, lifts the effects of Protect or Detect for the remainder of the turn in a double battle." - Shadow Force description

Shadow Force is good for Giratina. 🙂

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Auto-Life can be used once for each character unless the spell has already taken effect. Taunt would only affect the protagonists.

Just because Pokemon can't cure it doesn't mean Final Fantasy can. No Pokemon would cure itself of Doom, Zombie, Sap, FF Curse, Stop, Mini, Toad, or Piggy.

1000 needles will hit the Rattata.

Being captured by a human proves how vulnerable it would be. If it can't fight off a human, it's not doing anything to Sin.

😆 Yamcha alone would beat Giratina. This is just proof that you're wanking Pokemon. DBZ characters cause natural disasters by charging up and can move way faster. You don't see them getting captured by humans.

Annihilate Sin? Giratina was almost killed by Zero, a human. Sin would destroy Giratina. And I can't watch Pokemon like I used to. Best show me clips of it. From what I read in the summary, Darkrai doesn't die.

It's common sense that wild Pokemon are lesser than trained Pokemon. Even I knew back when I was a Pokemaniac. You don't see wild Pokemon using TMs.

Try telling that to Venonat. It's not gonna escape.

Drain is also a long distance attack and it still has opposite effects to the undead. I know what I'm talking about.

Taunt affects everything.

Most could probably dodge them. But Pokemon have their own Mini move, which happens to be called Minimize. Go ahead and use it, but it is actually beneficial to Pokemon as it increases their Evasion without hindering their other abilities.

1000 needles would have to be properly aimed, unless shot in all directions, in which case it's like one needle, big deal.

I haven't seen where Giritina was captured by a human. But no, it doesn't actually prove that, as Giritina probably wasn't trying to kill said human.

Yamcha got killed by a Saibaman. Koffing ftw?

Giritina never tried to touch Zero with antimatter. 😐 And no, Darkrai is pretty much dead, after the attack he gets launched into the distance, disintegrating as he goes. I'll find a vid when I get home if I have to.

This is a bad statement. Shiny Metagross says hi. Not to mention I am certain I could go find a video of a wild Pokemon using a TM move if I were to go searching through episodes, but I won't be doing that.

Leech Life. Bug Bite. Had it been able to escape, it would have.

Drain actually has a connection back to the user, though, as it attempts to bring the sapped energy back to the user. Leech Seed only does that in gameplay, in the anime it just saps up energy. If the Undead were truly a threat then something just BFR's them or traps them somewhere.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Yamcha got killed by a Saibaman. Koffing ftw?

Yamcha by the end of King Kai's training was capable of destroying planets. Vegeta was already doing it before coming to earth to fight Goku. Not to mention they all take worse hits than any of the pokemon have.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
Yamcha by the end of King Kai's training was capable of destroying planets. Vegeta was already doing it before coming to earth to fight Goku. Not to mention they all take worse hits than any of the pokemon have.

Possibly true, however, Right after that, yamcha has a near fatal experience with Gero, then becomes completely useless, We never even see him throw a punch after King Kai's training (Exept when after he got killed by Buu, he fights some of the otherworld fighters... And thats a very big stretch which I think is filler anyway)

Nah after he died again he was beating up King Kai's fighters for fun, he beat Olibu alot easier than Pikkon did and it wasn't even a hour that passed after his death, so he definately got no training in inbetween the time of his death.

I suggest we drop the DBZ stuff now, before it evolves into something that'll make me regret I ever brought it up.

well I haven't been on for a few days, but i've caught up with the thread now, and all I can see from it is...

Ultemecia, Cloud of Darkness, Ex Death, and Neo Exdeath > Palkia and Dalgia....... The Pokeverse DOES NOT run on friendship like the FF series does, and claiming that their friendship could overcome the compression of all space and time is just wrong. Take the first movie for example... what kind of message do you think that sent to little kids. Mewtwo goes crazy and wants use his clones to beat the other Pokemon. They brutally fight each other up until the end where Ash jumps in the way. Everyone stops fighting because they realize that it's wrong and pokemon shouldn't be used for it, and all of them cry until Ash is revived. The fight is over, Mewtwo and his clones leave, and Ash and the others memories are wiped clean so they never remember learning fighting is bad, and continue to beat up other pokemon for another 11 seasons. Soo??? WTF!!?? Its okay to have pokemon fight and beat the shit out of their own kind as long as you don't know it's wrong, and if you cry your loved one's will come back to life.....That isn't a very good sign of Pokemon having friendship, and trainers shouldn't be included in this thread either... Scream Paste stated that every pokemon ever (except Arcius) vs every FF character (except Dissidia.... btw thats BS Dissidia is a cannon game). It says nothing about trainers.

humans > Giratina ..... (Snow, Cloud, Squall, Lightning, Vincent, Cicel, Bartz and the others beat the shits out of it)

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Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
A Leech Seed attached to an Undead will magically sap energy from the user

LOLZ... fogga. Wow Moo.... and earlier in the thread you said pokemon don't use magic. You just contradicted yourself. 😆

A Machamp and Ratatatta taking out Sin? not at all, Sin would wipe the floor with them, and 13's painga ability keeps those pokemon from ever attacking. Doesn't 8's characters have pain too? I don't remember I haven't played it in awhile.

dispellga and esuna > status effects and safeguard

zombie attacks > curse, leech seed, etc. These moves would heal them they are undead.

Pokemon are outclassed by the FF universe in every way... FF wins

Oh and Moo, Claiming that a DBZ character could be taken out by Giratina is just wrong.If only DBZ started out as a video game..... I would start a thread that would make you pay for ever thinking this was possible. If you knew anything about the DBZ series, then you would know even the weaker characters could take him out. Goku, the strongest, could solo the Pokemon universe. (Arcius included) without breaking a sweat. Pokemon are nothing compared DBZ, Goku would pwn Pokemon so bad that their fight wouldn't even make him late for dinner. Hell, knowing Goku, he might try eating a few of them after he killed them.

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
Goku, the strongest, could solo the Pokemon universe. (Arcius included) without breaking a sweat. Pokemon are nothing compared DBZ, Goku would pwn Pokemon so bad that their fight wouldn't even make him late for dinner.

No.

I will not tolerate Goku fanfaggotry here.

Arceus, among several other Pokemanz, would murder Goku.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
No.

I will not tolerate Goku fanfaggotry here.

Arceus, among several other Pokemanz, would murder Goku.

Goku > Kais = God = Arceus > all the other Pokemanz 😛

GTFO!!!

Lol.

Silly little man, God is OOO

When have the Kais shown OOO?

humans > Giratina ..... (Snow, Cloud, Squall, Lightning, Vincent, Cicel, Bartz and the others beat the shits out of it)

...LOLWUT?

Linkownsyousobs, I demand you vacate this thread before posting moar foolishness, especially the goku > god thing. Arceus would /raep Goku, by, most likely, turning him into a fish.

Linkownsyousobs...learn to read. >_>

Edit: By God, I actually went back and looked at the rest of the post, and it is terrible. I...I've never seen anything so bad.

IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE! I MUST DEFEAT EEEEEEVILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

Goku IS stronger than the kais in DBZ, he can beat anything. The kais are the equivalent of God in the DBZ universe, just like Arcius is in the pokemon universe. Goku is stronger than God, Arcius wouldn't touch him. If a meteor can fu** up Arcius in the movie, Goku could pwn Arcius before it even had the chance to attack him.

It isn't foolishness just because you don't agree, I will not vacate this thread. It isn't my fault that Akira Toriyama made one of the strongest characters ever create in Anime. Doesn't mean you should hate on me for it. I don't even want to try to argue this, it isn't the thread for it, we are off topic... Try replying to the other points I made, instead of complaining to about me defending DBZ.

So what I learned at KMC today is if you mention Final Fantasy and Pokemon, you will make Dragon Ball Z.

Stay on topic or I report.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
So what I learned at KMC today is if you mention Final Fantasy and Pokemon, you will make Dragon Ball Z.

Originally posted by Phanteros
Stay on topic or I report.

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