Pokeverse v.s. FFverse

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia

I'm only including status effects since there so many spells in FF. Just be aware that there attacks/magics that cause more than one status effect (like Bad Breath which throws every negative effect at its foes).

[b]Negative Status Effects
Addle - Target doesn't remember any ability that was mastered

Aging - Victim's stats drop after every turn in battle (because aging makes one weaker)

Blind/Darkness - Reduces accurancy of the target

Charm - Victim attacks for the opposing team

Chicken - transforms the target into a chicken who just cowers throughout the fight.

Condemned/Doom - Victim gets KO'd after a certain amount of time

Confuse - Victim attacks friend and foe (or self) uncontrollably.

Curse - Causes a drop in stats (making the target weaker) and prevents use of Limit Breaks.

Disease - Prevents HP and MP from being recovered.

Disable - Victim can not attack but can still move

Freeze - Victim is immobilized and can be killed instantly with a physical attack or fire.

Gradual Petrify/Slow Numb - Victim turns to stone after a certain amount of time

Heat - Victim is instantly KO'd when doing any action

Immobilize - Target cannot move but can attack

Imperil - Lowers elemental resistances

Itchy - Victim is unable to do anything except change dresspheres

Oil - Target recieves extra damage from fire attacks

Pain - Disables the use of physical attacks

Petrify/Stone - Turns the victim into stone.

Pig - Turns the target into a pig. Attack/Defense is reduced and only a few magics can be used

Plague - Decreases MP and TP over time

Poison - Victim recieves damage over time

Reverse - Switches the effects of healing into damage and vice-versa

Seizure/Sap - Target constantly recieves a small amount of damage continously

Silence - Victim is unable to use magic or sing (obviously the victim can't say anything)

Size/Mini - Attack power and defense is reduced

Sleep - Victim sleeps unless hit with a physical attack

Slow - Slows down the target

Stop - Victim is unable to do anything

Toad - Victim becomes a frog and only attack or use the Frog/Toad spell

Traitor/Invitation - Makes the target defect to the enemy's side

Trouble - When a target gets damaged, half of it is dealt to their allies

Vampire/Blood suck - Makes character uncontrollable and only drain HP from other characters

Venom - Stronger or Weaker version of Poison (depends on the game)

Vit0 - Victim has no defense against physical attacks

Zombie - Depends on the game. In FF6, the victim becomes undead and attacks anyone discriminately. In FFX, the victim gets damaged from healing spells/items but is immune to death spells.

Neutral Status effects
Atheist - Target doesn't believe in magic. Therefore, they can't use any or be harmed by any

Berserk - Raises attack and sometimes speed but the target attacks enemies uncontrollably

Fury - Limit Break gauges fill up quickly but physical attacks will miss more often

Sadness - Targets recieve less damage but Limit Break gauges fill up slowly

Positive Status Effects
All Lucky 7s - It gives 64 consecutive hits for 7777 and takes off 7777 for every hit at the same HP thereafter.

Aquaveil - Decreases the likely hood of magics being interrupted when the caster is hit

Aura - Limit Breaks can be used regardless of HP

Blink/Image - User or target avoids physical attacks for a few turns

Bravery - Increases physical attack power

Bubble - Doubles Max HP

Clear/Vanish - Immune to physical attacks but vulnerable to magical attacks (especially X-Zone)

Costume - Changes appearance of the user

Deodorize - Prevents target from being detected by scent or detected by low HP status

Double - Allows target to use two consecutive spells at once

Enspell - Allows additional damage to a particular elemental spell (Enfire powers up Fire magic)

Faith - Increases magical attack power

Flee - In FFXI, it increases movement speed

Float - Target floats, making them immune to damaging floors and earthquakes

Haste - Speeds up the target

Invincible - Immune to all attacks for a short period of time

Invisible - Attacks have a less chance on connecting. It cancels when the target attacks or is hit

Lucky Girl - All hits from the target are critical hits

Life 3/Auto-Life/Reraise - Target automatically revives when KO'd/killed.

Nul - Target is immune to a particular element (i.e. NulIce grants immunity to ice attacks)

Phalanx - Grants a certain amount of damage resistance

Potency - Increases the rate of critical hits

Protect - Halves physical damage

Regen - Recovers a small amount of HP gradually. The opposite of Poison.

Reprisal - Increases the likely hood a Paladin will block an attack with his/her shield and reflect 1/3 of the damage back at the attacker

Shell - Halves magical damage

Stoneskin - Grants a certain amount of protection against physical attacks

Sneak - Prevents a target from being detected by sound

Triple - Allows the target to use three spells at once. [/B]

Pokemon Power: Synchronize 😐

What now, bizatches?

Sin pretty much unkillable unless Yu Yevon is destroyed. While Giga Gravitron isn't huge, it is still powerful enough to end anything caught in it. Giratina shoots anti-matter? Yeah, and?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
They also stop special abilities (in FF4 and FF5) and Limit Breaks (in FF7).

If Pokemon don't have the Toad spell, they're helpless.

So it stops stuff like Static and Flame Body and various other abilities.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
I'm still agreeing with Arceus on the magical creature thing

It is a term for the time. If names mattered they would be creatures who dwell in pockets. Arceus still uses that term because he was sleeping for hundreds/thousands of years. He isn't up to date on the lingo.

Upon reflection, instead of using this face: 😐, I should have used that greedy Link face...

link-rape

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
link-rape

link-rape 👆

So, are we ignoring Safeguard, Heal Bell, Haze, etc? Safeguard protects from all status effects, and is an AoE that works all pokemon on your team. Heal Bell gets rid of all status effects on all pokemon, as does Haze, which also resets all stat changes, including those of the enemy. Mist pevents stat lowering outright.

Heal Block prevents auto-life, as well as all other enemy healing. Snatch still steals positive effects. Psycho Shift turns the enemy's negative status back on it (as does the Synchronize ability; thanks, 5L). Reflect and Light Screen increase the defenses of all pokemon. Taunt still prevents nondamaging moves, and Torment still prevents use of the same move twice in a row.

Even lower teir pokemon can contribute massively with support moves like these.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
So it stops stuff like Static and Flame Body and various other abilities.

It is a term for the time. If names mattered they would be creatures who dwell in pockets. Arceus still uses that term because he was sleeping for hundreds/thousands of years. He isn't up to date on the lingo.

Up to date on lingo? Thats basically saying he just haven't heard what people named his own creations now.

Its like someone changing your child's name without you knowing.

Wait, you think Arceus told humans what Pokemon were called? Pokemon and Magical Creatures are human inventions. Arceus never stuck around, he lives in his own dimension just like Palkia and Dialga, the Unown, and Giritina.

Him stopping that meteor may have been his first appearance in that dimension.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
But it lost plates due to meteorites. Sin is more powerful than meteorites. Sin > Arceus.

Besides, in the manga Arceus told Ash that he was immortal and will never die... which makes me think their struggles for reviving Arceus were pointless.
I mean, they went through hell only to be told by Arceus that it didn't matter anyway if they weren't able to heal him with the Jewel of Life since he was practically immortal anyway.
WTF?

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Wait, you think Arceus told humans what Pokemon were called? Pokemon and Magical Creatures are human inventions. Arceus never stuck around, he lives in his own dimension just like Palkia and Dialga, the Unown, and Giritina.

Him stopping that meteor may have been his first appearance in that dimension.

So what you're saying is that the humans made pokemon? The only human created pokemon is Mewtwo and porygon.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
So what you're saying is that the humans made pokemon? The only human created pokemon is Mewtwo and porygon.

I meant the terms "Pokemon" and "Magical Creatures." I didn't make that part clear enough. 😬

And grimer/muk, voltorb/electrode apparently.

So you're saying humans just came up with magical creatures out of no where and eventually changed it to pokemon.

So where did Arceus come up with magical creatures if he never been around to hear it?

Originally posted by SpadeKing
So you're saying humans just came up with magical creatures out of no where and eventually changed it to pokemon.

So where did Arceus come up with magical creatures if he never been around to hear it?

Yes.

We know he showed up at some point, just not necessarily before the meteor.

before pokeballs they're magical creatures afterwards they're pokemon/pocket monsters

verdict: magical creatures later renamed to better suit modern life

Originally posted by BloodRain
Embargo to rid them of weapons and materia.

It's not gonna work on Sephiroth who can use magic without materia and can make a new Masamune. Also useless against magic users outside of FF7.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Pokemon Power: Synchronize 😐

What now, bizatches?

They're all gonna be slaughtered before that happens.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I disagree. 😐 Pokemon hit each other with things that are a lot more dangerous than giga gravitron. Also, a spec of anti-matter = LOL@Everything that's within the range of a nuclear explosion.

Then how come I don't hear about dead Pokemon? Also, all Pokemon can healed in the Pokemon center. That must mean Pokemon aren't that powerful unless they're legendary or Mewtwo. People in the anime have survived Pokemon attacks without toon force. Growlithes have higher attack ratings than rattata and one bit Officer Jenny. Does that mean she has harder skin than Cloud? 😆

Giratina's attacks from the movie don't have same area of damage as Sin unless they clash with other Pokegods.

Originally posted by The Scenario
So, are we ignoring Safeguard, Heal Bell, Haze, etc? Safeguard protects from all status effects, and is an AoE that works all pokemon on your team. Heal Bell gets rid of all status effects on all pokemon, as does Haze, which also resets all stat changes, including those of the enemy. Mist pevents stat lowering outright.

Heal Block prevents auto-life, as well as all other enemy healing. Snatch still steals positive effects. Psycho Shift turns the enemy's negative status back on it (as does the Synchronize ability; thanks, 5L). Reflect and Light Screen increase the defenses of all pokemon. Taunt still prevents nondamaging moves, and Torment still prevents use of the same move twice in a row.

Even lower teir pokemon can contribute massively with support moves like these.

YouTube video
6:12-6:40

Problem solved

Then how come I don't hear about dead Pokemon?

Also, all Pokemon can healed in the Pokemon center. That must mean Pokemon aren't that powerful unless they're legendary or Mewtwo.

People in the anime have survived Pokemon attacks without toon force. Growlithes have higher attack ratings than rattata and one bit Officer Jenny. Does that mean she has harder skin than Cloud?

Giratina's attacks from the movie don't have same area of damage as Sin unless they clash with other Pokegods.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
before pokeballs they're magical creatures afterwards they're pokemon/pocket monsters

verdict: magical creatures later renamed to better suit modern life

So if a name means they're magical, they now dwell in pockets.

Excellent logic is excellent.

I think you overlooked one thing, though. They are not called Pokemon because of Pokeballs. They are called Pokeballs because of Pokemon.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
1. Played pokemon r/b/y lately?

I mean Pokemon battle related.

2. Because they're durable enough to beat on each other 😐 otherwise battlign wouldn't happen.

So a Magikarp can survive a zap from Raichu or Jolteon.

I don't follow your reasoning. Pheonix down = FF characters are pussies...?

Gameplay mechanics. I think it would be a pain in the ass if characters stay dead after being defeated. FF1 had a revival center but it was pain to exit a dungeon and go a long way to a town just to get that done.

Actually yes, because Cloud's hurt by bullets.

And lived. He's superhuman.

That or the Rattata wasn't trying to kill her. 😐

It was a Growlithe. It mistaked Jenny for someone else. And it left a mark. Rattatas aren't that strong.

Also, lol@using the anime. Pokemon game canon > the anime canon. Arceus was absorbing it's attacks. 😐 Also, see game canon > anime canon.

You're saying that now? IIRC, you were one of the main ones using the anime to justify Pokemon abilities like Charizard's feats. Maybe it was MooCow