Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeActually the description is "The user strikes with a tough punch as fast as a bullet." This can be interpreted either way.
Lol? Why would Charizard fly into him? That would be stupid when all he has to do is breathe fire.
Then why is it glowing?
Lol, there isn't any arch. There's a slight view of a portion of some building, but there is no way you can use that to make a fair estimate. I can barely even tell what it is.
No. If it meant what you want it too it would say, 'the user strikes with a tough punch, as fast as a bullet' or 'the user strikes as fast as a bullet, with a tough punch', to seperate the punch itself to indicate that the user is moving that fast, not just the punch. As it stands it is directly attributing the punch itself as a being that fast, not the user.
Which could be easily blocked and wouldn't make it in time anyway. And I mean honestly, the anime proves that pokemon are retards without a trainer to tell them what to do, do you really think they can co-ordinate skillfully enough that the second they start they'll know to specifically double-team Vincent as fast as possible, using just that sequence of moves? Becuase I don't.
Heat. Or its a magical bullet that glows, becuase the makers thought that would go perfect for a sniper mission.
That portion of a building is the top of the arch which edea is directly under. Nottomention you can visit that part of town and it really isn't that far away from wheer they are.
Prove that?
It only effects them becuase its a steel type, which Ghosts arn't immune too gameplay wise. Even if you don't buy that, it only proves that ghost pokemon are vulnerable to steel, not that Ultimecia is suddenly vulnerable to it.
It only effects them becuase its a steel type, which Ghosts arn't immune too gameplay wise. Even if you don't buy that, it only proves that ghost pokemon are vulnerable to steel, not that Ultimecia is suddenly vulnerable to it.It would not be hard to balance making ghosts immune to physical attacks by making their other stats less impressive to compensate, they chose to go this route. 😐 Steel type > intangibility.
It would not be hard to balance making ghosts immune to physical attacks by making their other stats less impressive to compensate, they chose to go this route. no expression Steel type > pokemon intangibility.
Fixed.
And Ghost type can also be hit by rocks. Are you saying rocks are above intangibility? 😐 They can also be hit by flying, which is a bird flying into them 😐 , Poison, which makes no sense becuase they don't have bodies to poison 😐 , and Ground, which is sand. 😐
As you can see Ghost type intangibility sucks balls.
Edit: And if you wanted true intangibility you'd have to make them invulnerable to pretty much every attack type except ghost, dark and psychic, which would make them ridiculously broken.
Originally posted by Nephthys
No. If it meant what you want it too it would say, 'the user strikes with a tough punch, as fast as a bullet' or 'the user strikes as fast as a bullet, with a tough punch', to seperate the punch itself to indicate that the user is moving that fast, not just the punch. As it stands it is directly attributing the punch itself as a being that fast, not the user.Which could be easily blocked and wouldn't make it in time anyway. And I mean honestly, the anime proves that pokemon are retards without a trainer to tell them what to do, do you really think they can co-ordinate skillfully enough that the second they start they'll know to specifically double-team Vincent as fast as possible, using just that sequence of moves? Becuase I don't.
Heat. Or its a magical bullet that glows, becuase the makers thought that would go perfect for a sniper mission.
That portion of a building is the top of the arch which edea is directly under. Nottomention you can visit that part of town and it really isn't that far away from wheer they are.
Actually, a comma there is grammatically incorrect. I am quite certain now that it means Machamp is moving as fast as a bullet.
No Guard means they aren't blocked. Not to mention she lacks the power to block a strike from Machamp. You wish Pokemon were retards, lol.
I can apply the same logic of not knowing to the other team. Perhaps they would not know Machamp is so dangerous.
It shouldn't be Heat.
Yeah. There's no way that is 200 feet. I don't even think she reacted to the bullet. I think she had that force field up thinking someone was going to try and attack her. We don't even see her move. Her arm was already up.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Actually, a comma there is grammatically incorrect. I am quite certain now that it means Machamp is moving as fast as a bullet.No Guard means they aren't blocked. Not to mention she lacks the power to block a strike from Machamp. You wish Pokemon were retards, lol.
I can apply the same logic of not knowing to the other team. Perhaps they would not know Machamp is so dangerous.
It shouldn't be Heat.
Yeah. There's no way that is 200 feet. I don't even think she reacted to the bullet. I think she had that force field up thinking someone was going to try and attack her. We don't even see her move. Her arm was already up.
I'm not too sure it is. What about a semi-colon? And if they meant what you think, they would have spelled it out the way I did the second time. As is its still just ascribing the speed to the punch itself.
No Gaurd is a gameplay mechanic. 😐 She doesn't need to, she can just go intangible. Pokemon are retards: 'Hey you! Wait right in that cage until I specifically order you to easily brake out, becuase obviously you couldn't figure that out on your own initiative'. 😬
They wouldn't need to, Ultimecia sees him running up to her she's not going to stand there doing her taxes. She'll stop him by stopping time which just requires her to raise her hand or go intangible.
And water shouldn't rip through steel. Its still a bullet, you can see its one.
It was about 200 feet. Youtube the game if you don't believe me. And you believe she was standing there with her arm upraised, just happening to be facing Irvine directly on, knowing exactly which which direction she'd be attacked from and you also think Irvine somehow didn't notice that she was doing this and react in anyway until he showed obvious surprise at her blocking his bullet? Ok, so now she can predict the future.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm not too sure it is. What about a semi-colon? And if they meant what you think, they would have spelled it out the way I did the second time. As is its still just ascribing the speed to the punch itself.No Gaurd is a gameplay mechanic. 😐 She doesn't need to, she can just go intangible. Pokemon are retards: 'Hey you! Wait right in that cage until I specifically order you to easily brake out, becuase obviously you couldn't figure that out on your own initiative'. 😬
They wouldn't need to, Ultimecia sees him running up to her she's not going to stand there doing her taxes. She'll stop him by stopping time which just requires her to raise her hand or go intangible.
And water shouldn't rip through steel. Its still a bullet, you can see its one.
It was about 200 feet. Youtube the game if you don't believe me. And you believe she was standing there with her arm upraised, just happening to be facing Irvine directly on, knowing exactly which which direction she'd be attacked from and you also think Irvine somehow didn't notice that she was doing this and react in anyway until he showed obvious surprise at her blocking his bullet? Ok, so now she can predict the future.
I'll give you an example of a sentence with the same type of situation, in which a comma was also incorrect.
"I awake to a sensation of being lifted into the air feeling well rested."
If what you say were true there would be a comma between "air" and "feeling." The sentence is saying that the speaker has awoken to a sensation of being lifted into the air, and that he is well rested. The similar situation is between "a tough punch as fast as a bullet."
Abilities are not gameplay mechanics, lol. They exist outside the games. And outside of gameplay. She has to react to it to go intangible, which I am now also certain she cannot do. Outside of that possibly being anime inconsistency, there have been situations where only a Pokemon is captured and they also know to try and break out.
She won't see him.
Water should rip through steel when shot with enough force. It even happens in the real world, dude. This point doesn't mean anything anymore. I agree its a bullet, the glow just doesn't make any sense.
No, I believe she was already facing in that direction. Her huge ass chair was being carried that way, was it not? The steel cage doors dropping unexpectedly would kinda tip her off that something was going to happen, don't you think? She is also in some sort of parade, was she waving to some people? Anyone can predict the future when
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I'll give you an example of a sentence with the same type of situation, in which a comma was also incorrect."I awake to a sensation of being lifted into the air feeling well rested."
If what you say were true there would be a comma between "air" and "feeling." The sentence is saying that the speaker has awoken to a sensation of being lifted into the air, and that he is well rested. The similar situation is between "a tough punch as fast as a bullet."
Abilities are not gameplay mechanics, lol. They exist outside the games. And outside of gameplay. She has to react to it to go intangible, which I am now also certain she cannot do. Outside of that possibly being anime inconsistency, there have been situations where only a Pokemon is captured and they also know to try and break out.
She won't see him.
Water should rip through steel when shot with enough force. It even happens in the real world, dude. This point doesn't mean anything anymore. I agree its a bullet, the glow just doesn't make any sense.
No, I believe she was already facing in that direction. Her huge ass chair was being carried that way, was it not? The steel cage doors dropping unexpectedly would kinda tip her off that something was going to happen, don't you think? She is also in some sort of parade, was she waving to some people? Anyone can predict the future when
My much better at this friends, one of which is writing a novel says you are wrong and I agree with them. There really should be a comma there to make it clear what you are talking about. Its just awkward and confusing otherwise.
No Guard at the least is a gamplay mechanic as it allows pokemon to be hit even when it would be impossible otherwise, such as during dig or fly. Even if you, used flail against someone underground it would hit, which is non-sensical and proves its a GPM.
Thats just, like, your opinion man. Which unfortunately is not supported by the evidence.
Ok then.
The doors did tip her off, but that doesn't mean she knows where the sniper bullet is coming from or that she'd convieniently be facing his exact direction, only reacting to it would do that. And I doubt she'd be waving at the crowd in the midst of an obvious assasination attempt.
Originally posted by Nephthys
My much better at this friends, one of which is writing a novel says you are wrong and I agree with them. There really should be a comma there to make it clear what you are talking about. Its just awkward and confusing otherwise.No Guard at the least is a gamplay mechanic as it allows pokemon to be hit even when it would be impossible otherwise, such as during dig or fly. Even if you, used flail against someone underground it would hit, which is non-sensical and proves its a GPM.
Thats just, like, your opinion man. Which unfortunately is not supported by the evidence.
Ok then.
The doors did tip her off, but that doesn't mean she knows where the sniper bullet is coming from or that she'd convieniently be facing his exact direction, only reacting to it would do that. And I doubt she'd be waving at the crowd in the midst of an obvious assasination attempt.
The English professor that corrected that sentence for me says I am correct. My sentence isn't confusing, neither is the other one.
Nah. It just means that they don't get blocked or conventionally dodged. To actually dodge it you'd have to get to a distance in which you cannot counterattack. Or you can but they can't. Hitting with Flail via No Guard though is a gameplay mechanic. As long as they are still underground anyway.
It is fact until proven otherwise, which it has not been.
Like I said, she was already facing that way, and they won't try to shoot her from behind through her gigantic chair. Even if she didn't know where it was, she backed herself up against a wall and defended in front, the only possible area she could be attacked from.
She wouldn't have to be waving, the sniper would only have to think she was.
My much better at this friends, one of which is writing a novel says you are wrong and I agree with them.Pics or it didn't happen. Also, he'd be hard pressed to be better at this than Moo.
No Guard at the least is a gamplay mechanic as it allows pokemon to be hit even when it would be impossible otherwise, such as during dig or fly. Even if you, used flail against someone underground it would hit, which is non-sensical and proves its a GPM.No, it just shows that, as the ability says, it doesn't give a damn about hurting itself in the process and takes stupid risks to hit it's opponent, say, by jumping into the air, or striking the ground.?
Thats just, like, your opinion man. Which unfortunately is not supported by the evidence.Math already shows he can pull it off, and why is your opinion better than Moo's?
The doors did tip her off, but that doesn't mean she knows where the sniper bullet is coming from or that she'd convieniently be facing his exact direction, only reacting to it would do that. And I doubt she'd be waving at the crowd in the midst of an obvious assasination attempt.A shield requires reaction now?
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I know. So what? Point being? And Bullet Punch works just fine. We also do have No Guard, which means blocking is not an option, nor does the traditional version of dodging.
Game mechanics.
I've been told Ultimecia can react to bullets, but I've yet to see it. And stopping a bullet is very different from stopping a four armed monster moving at you with the speed of a bullet.
I'm not looking for it but it's in that FF vs. Pokemon thread.
Zell isn't that fast. I'm assuming you're using that around the world run though.
I'm aware that it is exaggerated. Still enough to prove that he's fast even if he's slower than Dante.
Not his fire. Lol'd. Not when she's being punched. Not his Water cannons, or his Aqua Jet. Lol'd.
Charizard's fire is the only thing going for it. He's still not hitting anybody with it since Vincent or Ultimecia blast the Pokemon out of the air.
Ultimecia isn't going to be punches because Machamp is a small fry compared to her. The Water cannons aren't going hit anybody since Blastoise would rotate with tank-like controls.
Lol'd.
Machamp is weak against flying type attacks. Air would be considered flying. Maelstrom and Tornado kill Machamp.
Lol'd.
Bullet Punch isn't Quick Attack outside of game mechanics. Machamp gets Quaked.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Like I said, she was already facing that way, and they won't try to shoot her from behind through her gigantic chair. Even if she didn't know where it was, she backed herself up against a wall and defended in front, the only possible area she could be attacked from.She wouldn't have to be waving, the sniper would only have to think she was.
Actually, the whole scene is a plot hole. I have read it in the Final Fantasy Wikipedia.
Take a look:
Irvine is seen to shoot Sorceress Edea from front-on during the parade sequence, however moments later, when Squall drives up to her float, the float is facing directly away from their shooting position. Besides the obvious change of direction in the way the float is facing, the backing of Edea's throne would have made shooting her from that angle impossible.
At least, is what I have read. Seems logical enough. Still, Edea stopped that bullet without efforts.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Game mechanics.I'm not looking for it but it's in that FF vs. Pokemon thread.
I'm aware that it is exaggerated. Still enough to prove that he's fast even if he's slower than Dante.
Charizard's fire is the only thing going for it. He's still not hitting anybody with it since Vincent or Ultimecia blast the Pokemon out of the air.
Ultimecia isn't going to be punches because Machamp is a small fry compared to her. The Water cannons aren't going hit anybody since Blastoise would rotate with tank-like controls.
Machamp is weak against flying type attacks. Air would be considered flying. Maelstrom and Tornado kill Machamp.
Bullet Punch isn't Quick Attack outside of game mechanics. Machamp gets Quaked.
Debunked.
Also debunked.
It isn't even true. If attack animations mattered, anything in Gold, Silver and Crystal that can use Seismic Toss is capable of throwing planets.
Vincent is restrained, and Ultimecia is being punched to death. Lol at Machamp not being a threat to Ultimecia. And what gives you the idea Blastoise moves like a tank with its water cannons?
Machamp isn't being hit with anything, so whether or not air attacks do extra damage is irrelevant.
Lol'd.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Debunked.
Ultimecia stopped bullets as Edea. Imagine her true form.
Also debunked.
How?
It isn't even true. If attack animations mattered, anything in Gold, Silver and Crystal that can use Seismic Toss is capable of throwing planets.
I just said the animation is exaggerated
Vincent is restrained, and Ultimecia is being punched to death.
Ultimecia stops Machamp and Alakazam and kills them both.
Lol at Machamp not being a threat to Ultimecia. And what gives you the idea Blastoise moves like a tank with its water cannons?
Machamp is not a threat. Blastoise is slow and only aim cannons at the front.
Machamp isn't being hit with anything, so whether or not air attacks do extra damage is irrelevant.
Lol'd.
Machamp isn't superman. He gets killed at long range.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Ultimecia stopped bullets as Edea. Imagine her true form.How?
I just said the animation is exaggerated
Ultimecia stops Machamp and Alakazam and kills them both.
Machamp is not a threat. Blastoise is slow and only aim cannons at the front.
Machamp isn't superman. He gets killed at long range.
I could stop a bullet too if I could put a force field in front of me. There was only one possible direction, so she put up a force field facing that way. This doesn't mean she can react to a bullet.
See above.
To what degree you cannot be sure. Useless speed is useless.
Can't. Too busy being punched.
Lol'd. Also lol'd. How do they execute tackles with those jets if they only shoot forward? I forgot about the famous ass tackle.
Someone has to be at long range to do that.