Pokemon v.s. Final Fantasy, with less speculation!

Started by MooCowofJustice37 pages

Well, yeah. 😐

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Well, yeah. 😐

And Irvene is just stupid.... 😕

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
She had plenty of time to go "Hmm...I bet I'll be attacked from this direction as it is the only one left open. I'll put up a forcefield right after I count to ten!"

You have completely zero evidence of what you're claiming, I'm afraid.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
So Squall is now faster and more threatening than Machamp?

no, im just saying that machamp wouldnt be able to cross even 10 feet to beat ult's reaction time 😬

You guys are so wrong its funny, but okay.... I'll play along with your little game of random assumptions.

Machamp runs up to hit Ultemecia (which is retarded if you think he can actually hit her... its called BULLETpunch for a reason..... she can stop a sniper's bullet which is a lot faster)

Alakazam TK's Cloud, Vincent, and Squall (I think thats who you said)

Zell punches through Zam's skull to end the TK while he is busy with the other three, or uses berserk to end it, and then punches through his skull after the TK ends. Synchronize won't help because it will just make Zell's punches blind with rage... Zam still gets punched. Safeguard won't help because he is TK'ing the others right now, he can't use it, and Zell will get to him before he can.

The others are free to hit Machamp and Tryannitar with areo/tornando/Maelstrom (whatever their version is called, they change from time to time) to take them out of the picture.

No Guard is definitely a game play mechanic, even if it is an ability. You can't punch something that is intangible, its impossible. Intangibility means you cant be touched by tangible objects. The only reason that you can in the games is because it is steel type.( I think this was said before...idk i cant remember) The ghosts on Pokemon defy common knowledge. They are only immune to it if it is a normal attack. As long as a physical attack has another one, (like steel, or flying) it works. Oh well, it keeps Machamp from avoiding the tornado 😄

Cloud and Vincent cast haste and reflect on eachother
Vincent turns Chaos and keeps Zard busy
Cloud keeps Balstoise busy.

One of them use full life to revive Ultemecia, thats considering if Machamp can even get to her before she stops time (which it can't)

Then team FF either turns them all into toads..... uses stop on them and kills them..... or Ultemecia stops time all together and kills the rest herself. 😄

Someone one OBD found an article proving Dissidia isn't canon.

The "FF" series' characters which appear in this game already have their own stories but how will they be introduced?
TA: " Dissidia: Final Fantasy"'s story is not directly linked to the "FF" stories these characters come from. However, we have designed it so that, as you get closer to the game's ending, there will be some kind of link you can see relating to each one of them. Also, although this is a different world and story, the characters will keep their recognisable personalities so fans can rest assured. (Laughs)

too bad the game itself contradicts that article -.-

Too bad it was the creators words in that article.

its still a major contradiction
kind of stupid, actually
they create a story that functions perfectly, and ties up every loose end regarding the whole crossover thing, then they say "nope, not an actual game"
they might as well have done the same for FF X-2, for thats all dissidia is - a direct sequel to a main FF game 😬

Creators Words buddy.

im not refuting it - just makes less sense than a banana riding a tricycle, is all 😬

Bullet Punch's description doesn't say anything about its whole body moving that fast, only mentions the strike. The Colosseum/XD versions show slow movement and a fast strike. The anime likewise only shows a fast strike. No increased movement.

Why are people thinking that she was aware that the shot was coming for that exact place? It could of been from there, left or right, somewhere in the vast crowd or even from someone standing above her on the portcullis entrance. She couldn't of known that it was to come from that one specific area.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
facepalm Pokemon fight each other all day, and are capable of much more powerful attacks than an FF party could wish for. 😐

Go play a Final Fantasy game.

Pokemon got Explosion? Firaga does the same thing without killing the user. Flare makes an even bigger explosion.

Pokemon got Thunder? Thundaga beats that in spades.

Pokemon got Earthquake? Quake's animation does more earth damage than what's shown in the anime or even the 3D Pokemon games.

There's no way a Pokemon can revive itself unless it sacrifices, is Ho-Oh with Sacred Ash, or if a Trainer uses an item. FF8 characters have Life and Full-Life.

Pokemon got Intense Cold, Horn Drill, Guillotine, and Fissure? Too bad they're 30% accurate and one of them only works on land-dwellers. Death is 100% accurate and the only reason it doesn't always work is because there enemies that can resist it or are immune to it. Pokemon got Perish Song but it also affects the user.

FF8 has Haste and Slow. Pokemon have agility but their slow status effects work differently outside gameplay. For example, Scary Face would be useless against FF characters since there are scarier things in their universe (Malboro, Revenants, etc.).

Pokemon have Reflect and Light Screen? FF can do the same with Protect and Shell.

Pokemon have Mirror Coat? FF's Reflect does the same thing and without damaging the user.

Pokemon have flying types? FF has Float so that anybody can levitate off the ground.

FF8 has double (allow two magics to be used at once) and triple (allow 3 magics at once). What Pokemon has abilities like that?

Pokemon can cause sleep status? So can FF and it's as accurate as Spore.

Pokemon can lower accurancy? FF can blind targets.

Pokemon can confuse? So can FF.

Pokemon can lower defense? FF8 has Meltdown which not only does fire damage; it completely destroys defense.

Arceus has Judgment? Meteor does around the same damage.

No Pokemon I know can turn one into stone but FF can.

Apocalypse beats every Pokemon attack.

Pokemon Hunter J has a wrist blaster that turns things into Stone.

Sin, you listed all of that crap like it means FF > Pokemon. Pokemon has just as many, if not more options.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
You have completely zero evidence of what you're claiming, I'm afraid.

What more do I need? Cage doors locked, trapping her in a specific area and tipping her off that something is about to happen. She is underneath a big arch, attacks from the left and right sides don't happen. Behind her is her chair, which no sniper in their right mind would try to shoot through. So she blocked off the only possible direction she could be attacked from.

There isn't any proof that she reacted to it, either. Unlike the Midna scenario, we don't see Ultimecia move. Her arm is already up when the bullet hits her shield.

Then there's that other crap that may or may not assist this point. Squall and Irving are on that roof, shouting. If she were only 200 feet away, she could probably hear them. Since she is suspicious something is going to happen, she may have spotted them while Irving was screwing around.

Originally posted by MadMel
no, im just saying that machamp wouldnt be able to cross even 10 feet to beat ult's reaction time 😬

What reaction time? 😬

It could of been from there, left or right, somewhere in the vast crowd or even from someone standing above her on the portcullis entrance. She couldn't of known that it was to come from that one specific area.

Too many places for her to be shot at from. And I dont think she'd be able to hear them over the crowd.

Lol? She is inside the arch. Two doors closed, you know. Left and Right are impossible. A frontal attack was the only option left, so she blocked it.

On top of the arch eg where those three are. Left and right are not impossible. Wouldnt be the first time the assassin was in the crowd either.

Doesn't even really matter, now that I think about it, why is Machamp gong after Ultimecia other than because people tried to argue he wasnt a threat to her? (He certainly is.) Machamp is no glass cannon, dude can take a hit, and an icicle isn't gonna do anything to him. 😐 If Ultimecia stops time, her entire team is stopped, and she's left unable to cause significant harm.

Unlike most FF attacks, pokemon attacks have the pokedex and in game events to back them up. 😐 Like an angry gyarados creating a massive crater which filled with water and becoming a lake. Where as something like Omnislash, Final Heaven, Great attractor, have only battle animations. To claim Thundaga, or Firaga, are superior to pokemon moves without evidence is pure bias. This is directed at Sin.

Machamp is a physical powerhouse which the FF8 team cannot overcome, Zard and Blastoise have ranged elemental attacks witch destructive power that puts firaga and thundaga to shame. Blastoise can use it's jets to move quickly, and Zard has been seen keeping up with a legendary pokemon so fast it can run on water. This was a wimpy Zard, with a trainer riding it.

They aren't slow.

Alakazam is the fastest one here. He is so fast, that as a baby (Abra) in his sleep, he can teleport so quickly he appears to have made several individual copies of himself. He has many moves which can stop status, buff his team, block attacks, or just plain old fashioned kick ass. He can confuse Ultimecia, while TKing Vincent, who Blastoise can shoost.

Tyranitar, another physical power house, just getting close to him is dangerous to the FF party. He simply will not go down, no matter what they throw at him. 😐

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Unlike most FF attacks, pokemon attacks have the pokedex and in game events to back them up. 😐 Like an angry gyarados creating a massive crater which filled with water and becoming a lake. Where as something like Omnislash, Final Heaven, Great attractor, have only battle animations. To claim Thundaga, or Firaga, are superior to pokemon moves without evidence is pure bias. This is directed at Sin.

This was well said.

Also, 😐 😐 😐

The ceiling and the floor are between Ultimecia and those three in the arch. The walls block off left and right.