Pokemon v.s. Final Fantasy, with less speculation!

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I already had that argument with Nephthys. It makes his whole body move.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I had this conversation about Ultimecia in another thread, apparently she has some form of precog or clairvoyence or she can read minds, either way there was many ways she could of predicted the sniper before he fired or know that he was there.

Oh yeah, the debate....

Point being? Ultimecia is not a situation in which No Guard would not take effect.

The point was:

it is exclusive to gameplay and nothing else.

Get it?

I don't know many fat guys that send train cars flying with punches, or can move a mountain with one arm. Or fat guys with bullet speed, either.

Buddha?

Apparently that entire scene was ****ed up. As she is actually facing the reverse direction after the bullet hits, or it was that Squall somehow magically ran at her from the opposite direction.

Well, she got off her chair and moved forward, so maybe she moved enough that she was in the line of sight. But yeah, that scene is pretty confusing.

I didn't hear any crowd, lol.

They're in the middle of a parade with music and dancer and a massive crowd cheering on either side of her.

Even if she wasn't protected from all sides, we never saw her move. You cannot fairly say that she reacted to it.

I can say that its logically the only answer.

You don't have to be retarded to make a mistake.

People don't start waving midst assasination attempt, especially when they would have to et off their chair and face the otehr direction.

What do XD and Colosseum show for Mach Punch?

The pkmn goes up to the opponent (as opposed to quick attack etc) then does a fast strike.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The point was:

Get it?

Abilities aren't exclusive to Gameplay. 😐

Originally posted by Nephthys
Buddha?

The Buddha you know is extremely different from the Buddha I know.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I can say that its logically the only answer.

You can say it is the only answer. But logically and truthfully? No, you can't.

Originally posted by Nephthys
People don't start waving midst assasination attempt, especially when they would have to et off their chair and face the otehr direction.

Waving serves many purposes. Could have been signaling someone were she waving. Maybe Irving is just stupid. I don't know. But there are a lot of possibilities, reacting to the shot cannot be fairly said to be one.

This is all I could find, but i imagine its pretty much the same: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7sSO-Lv8SE

Then they would be wrong. Bullet Punch is a priority move, just like Mach Punch.

Yes, obviously your opinion is above that of the game developers. That just goes without saying. 😐

Originally posted by BloodRain
The pkmn goes up to the opponent (as opposed to quick attack etc) then does a fast strike.

Then they would be wrong. Bullet Punch is a priority move, just like Mach Punch.

Yeah, the priority part is a punch as fast as a bullet.

Charizard was beat by a Poliwrath's ice beam and that's weaker than Blizzaga.

They're not fast enough or good enough to survive FF.

FF > Pokemon

Pokemon moves suck compared to FF. Only a handful stand out.

A ruby dragon in FF8 is deadlier than both of them. In a matter of fact, I'd even say the dragon can take them both out at once.

Looks to me like Sin is assuming FF is superior based entirely on bias. 😐

Originally posted by BloodRain
Yeah, the priority part is a punch as fast as a bullet.

The user strikes with a tough punch as fast as a bullet. This move always goes first.

That is the quote. Were it saying only the Punch was as fast as a bullet, it would be worded more like "The user strikes with a tough, fast-as-a-bullet punch." There is no comma in between "punch" and "as" because that is grammatically incorrect. The only thing describing the punch is "tough." After that it has gone back to describing the user.

That argument has already been found lacking. 😬 By using the word 'with' the writer is signifying that he is moving on to speaking of what the user is striking 'with', not the user itself.

Yeah, and the user is striking with a tough punch. As fast as a bullet is no longer referencing the punch.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Yeah, and the user is striking with a tough punch. As fast as a bullet is no longer referencing the punch.

Also, Neph, I think it speaks for the frailty of FF's position that you're arguing the meaning of a description, in such a way that would actually make Machamp slower for using a bullet punch.

There is no idication given that the user finishes talking about the punch and as such we can only take it that he has not.

Also, Neph, I think it speaks for the frailty of FF's position that you're arguing the meaning of a description, in such a way that would actually make Machamp slower for using a bullet punch.

Not really, I'm just arguing a point that I contend with. Even if he can hit her, full-life can bring her back.

Taunt.

The only thing being described there is the punch 😐 Every time its been shown there been not fast body movement.

Untrue.

...Is true.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Reflect

Pikachu has never been proven to be powerful, at least alone. If we're using the anime, Ash has survive electric attacks from his own Pikachu in Pikachu Revolts and there was no toonforce involved.

Just because Machamp can throw 2000 punches in 2 seconds doesn't make him a speedster. He gets injured by drilling beaks. If we're not accepting Limit Breaks, Zell has GFs and magic.

2. Stop using the anime. Several Pikachu when together can cause lightning storms, a single one can use a single jolt of electricity with the same power as a lightning bolt.

3. ... Yes it does. 😐 I am not even arguing this retarded point with you.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Hey look, no evidence.

Watch episode where Charizard finally respects Ash and compare Poliwrath's Ice Beam with FF8's Blizzaga.

No evidence.

Advent Children says Hi. Just look at the enemies faced in FF7 and FF8.

No proof. Conversely, pokemon has proof.

Just as much as proof as Pokemon. All you see are battle animations plus, most of them are game mechanics (i.e. tail whip and growl lowering defense).

No proof.

Looks to me like Sin is assuming FF is superior based entirely on bias. 😐

No I'm not. You're the one who's always biased with Nintendo characters. Why else would you claim that Link can beat Dante?

Originally posted by The Scenario
Taunt.

Now that I think of it, I doubt Taunt would work at all. It's just a game mechanic. There are FF villains that taunt the protagonists and they don't go thrashing with attack moves. Taunt is just game mechanic for Pokemon taunting their foes and making them mad. It's just like tail whip lowering defense instead being an attack. Does that mean Rattata's tail whip makes Golem softer? No it's a game mechanic.

Growl makes one less wary. That doesn't mean it would make Scyther's blades. Screech only hurts the ears, it won't make a Rhydon as soft as jelly outside of game mechanics. Ice Beam has a 10% chance of freezing but that's only in gameplay.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Was this an actual response? And nah brohan, no-limits fallacy, do Ruby Dragons even have Reflect?

Screw Ruby Dragon then.

2. Stop using the anime. Several Pikachu when together can cause lightning storms, a single one can use a single jolt of electricity with the same power as a lightning bolt.

No it can't. A lightning bolt is stronger than what Raichu can produce (100,000 volts).

3. ... Yes it does. 😐 I am not even arguing this retarded point with you.

Machamp has never been shown to be a speedster anywhere. Bullet Punch is not Quick Attack (which is actually Lightning Speed in Japan).