Pokemon v.s. Final Fantasy, with less speculation!

Wouldn't everyone be asleep after jigglypuff sings?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
I willing to bet the Pokedex is just a load of crap. If Alakazam is so smart, it wouldn't need to be in a pokeball and a group of them would capture Mewtwo and prevent Team Galatic from trying to recreate the universe.

Magcargo is hotter than the sun but has a lower special attack than Magmortar. Machamp knows every martial art but gets beaten by birds and can't learn Jump Kick, Comet Punch, Triple Kick, etc. It's said in a Pokedex entry that the pain caused by Houndoom's flames never goes away. I wonder why none of the Pokemon games ever mention Pokemon suffering from eternal burns.

What about Muk? It's supposed so poisonous that its footprints are lethal. Does that mean Pokemon trainers have to do bio cleaning after using a Muk?

I think Ash was even hugged by a Muk once and other than stupidity he seems fine.

Then again the pokeverse people all have uber toonforce endurance.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Jigglypuff uses Sing; then a Ghost-type army uses Dream Eater. Haunter says: "Ur chaotic dreams r tasty."

This is what the FF crew is going to be doing when they encounter a Psychic-Pokemon, lol;

From the beginning:
YouTube video

For one, Jigglypuff isn't in this fight.
Two, not all psychic types have Hypnosis and if one did, you can bet that Ultimecia wouldn't be affected.
Three, Ultimecia can mind**** those psychic types and Jigglypuff.
Four, There is no Dream Eater since the ghost army will be asleep as well.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
Wouldn't everyone be asleep after jigglypuff sings?

I think Ash was even hugged by a Muk once and other than stupidity he seems fine.

Then again the pokeverse people all have uber toonforce endurance.

Muk isn't even that poisonous in the anime. It just has a really bad odor.

You two are confusing this thread with the actual verse vs verse thread. This one was six on six.

If you mean me, I was just referring to the fact that Jigglypuff's singing would put everyone including its side to sleep.

Sorry I was gone so long. Had some problems with my internet, but I'm good now.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
I willing to bet the Pokedex is just a load of crap. If Alakazam is so smart, it wouldn't need to be in a pokeball and a group of them would capture Mewtwo and prevent Team Galatic from trying to recreate the universe.

Magcargo is hotter than the sun but has a lower special attack than Magmortar. Machamp knows every martial art but gets beaten by birds and can't learn Jump Kick, Comet Punch, Triple Kick, etc. It's said in a Pokedex entry that the pain caused by Houndoom's flames never goes away. I wonder why none of the Pokemon games ever mention Pokemon suffering from eternal burns.

What about Muk? It's supposed so poisonous that its footprints are lethal. Does that mean Pokemon trainers have to do bio cleaning after using a Muk?

Thank you! More and more reasons to disregard pokedex entries.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
So you base this entirely on stats? That's stupid. Stats are there to create a game. They may represent a Pokemon's abilities, but certainly not in comparison to other Pokemon.

It shows that the developers weren't thinking hard when they wrote those entries. They just wrote what sounded cool. The rest of the game never enforces, and mostly contradicts, the pokedex entries.

As for the larvatar bit. It isn't a rare pokemon was my point. It's common, like a ratatta.

No, Larvitar is not common. It's found in very few places. Rattata are literally found anywhere.

And no, you don't disregard the Pokedex entries using the game's stats as a basis. That's stupid.

And nah Spade, I meant Spinda and Sin.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You two are confusing this thread with the actual verse vs verse thread. This one was six on six.

Noted. You are correct.

So what if Larvitar are common? How many evolved ones, Pupitar, do you see in the wild?

Originally posted by The Scenario
So what if Larvitar are common? How many evolved ones, Pupitar, do you see in the wild?

For it's extended life as a pupitar, it's consumption of dirt would be gradual, like the combined consumption of other animals. Natural processes return poo to soil. Ect.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
No, Larvitar is not common. It's found in very few places. Rattata are literally found anywhere.

And no, you don't disregard the Pokedex entries using the game's stats as a basis. That's stupid.

Okay, I was exaggerating when I compared it to rattata, but the point is Larvatar aren't ridiculously uncommon. It's not like we see one larvatar every 100 years or something. There are a lot of them in their designated areas. Pupitar too.

Actually, you most certainly do. When compared to the rest of the game, pokedex entries don't add up. They don't fit.

Stats are a gameplay element.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Stats are a gameplay element.

Not completely. The developers won't make make an Electrode and Aerodactyl faster than Rapidash for no reason.

Cloyster has the highest defense in RBY and the Pokedex mentions its defense. Machamp has the second highest physical attack in RBY and the Pokedex mentions its strength.

Mewtwo had the highest stats in RBY and it is never mentioned that it has an IQ on the level of an Alakazam. Does this mean Mewtwo wasn't the most powerful psychic type?

The Pokedex is a joke.

Nah, the pokedex is canon. Denying it in favour of gameplay mechanics, IE stats, is a joke. The states can relate to their abilities, but to not actually need to.

Pokedex > movepool > anime> gameplay stats.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Pokedex > movepool > anime> gameplay stats.

Pokedex makes less sense than the anime. The movepool is less valid than than the stats (Primeape learning Iron Tail and Ponyta learning Horn Attack? WTF?)

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Not completely. The developers won't make make an Electrode and Aerodactyl faster than Rapidash for no reason.

Cloyster has the highest defense in RBY and the Pokedex mentions its defense. Machamp has the second highest physical attack in RBY and the Pokedex mentions its strength.

Mewtwo had the highest stats in RBY and it is never mentioned that it has an IQ on the level of an Alakazam. Does this mean Mewtwo wasn't the most powerful psychic type?

The Pokedex is a joke.

Like I said before, stats can speak for a Pokemon's abilities, but there is no way it works in relation to others. And some are blatant gameplay driven. Like Slaking, if it's ability wasn't Truant, it wouldn't have anywhere near that stat total.

well which FF are you talking about any ways

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Nah, the pokedex is [b]canon. Denying it in favour of gameplay mechanics, IE stats, is a joke. The states can relate to their abilities, but to not actually need to. [/B]

The stats should represent the pokemon. If Pidgeot flies at Mach-2 and Garchomp doesn't, then it should obviously have a higher speed stat. What this shows is that the developers where not really thinking when they wrote the pokedex entries. They have absolutely no relation to the actual game at all.

On top of that, there are ones that simply don't make any logical sense. Like larvatar eating a mountain. Now either we should have no mountains left, or we should be climbing mountains of larvatar dung. Neither is the case, unfortunately.

Magcargo should literally turn everything around it to ash. It isn't as hot as the sun, it's HOTTER! No one should be able to get close to that thing. It's nonsense.

Regice is so cold it snap freezes anything that get's close to it.

What was it, Houndoom, I think? The pain from it's burns never goes away? Funny, they seem to go away right when I use a burn heal.

It is so obvious that these entries were just placed in the game to sound cool. There is absolutely no scientific or logical thought process behind it, and they obviously don't care it they blatantly contradict the actual game.

On top of that, it doesn't matter anyway. None of them can beat Ultimicia, let alone her and a team.

The stats should represent the pokemon. If Pidgeot flies at Mach-2 and Garchomp doesn't, then it should obviously have a higher speed stat. What this shows is that the developers where not really thinking when they wrote the pokedex entries. They have absolutely no relation to the actual game at all.

Originally posted by TacDavey
The stats should represent the pokemon. If Pidgeot flies at Mach-2 and Garchomp doesn't, then it should obviously have a higher speed stat. What this shows is that the developers where not really thinking when they wrote the pokedex entries. They have absolutely no relation to the actual game at all.

PokéDex > Stats. Do not attack developers just because you do not think it makes as much sense as it should. That is your inadequacy, not theirs.