Originally posted by LLLLLink
Canonically in the games, Mewtwo was never caught, seeing as he was still running around in HG/SS even though Red had an encounter with him in R/B/Y.
I never played Heart Gold/Soul Silver so I do not know what changes were made. I know Giovanni makes an appearance.
You failed to address the point, Sin.Sin gets closer and closer to BT every day.
Brian Turner? I never knew I was so poetic 😄
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Not without a Celebi, he doesn't.And no, Burning Thought.
LLLLink = BurningThought
I haven't made claims like Sephiroth using the Great Will to erase people from existence, bring up barriers to protect himself from the Living Tribunal, and class 100 strength just because his sword can slice through buildings.
Originally posted by Sin_VolvagiaTerryc has done all that for you.
LLLLink = BurningThoughtI haven't made claims like Sephiroth using the Great Will to erase people from existence, bring up barriers to protect himself from the Living Tribunal, and class 100 strength just because his sword can slice through buildings.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
LLLLink = BurningThoughtI haven't made claims like Sephiroth using the Great Will to erase people from existence, bring up barriers to protect himself from the Living Tribunal, and class 100 strength just because his sword can slice through buildings.
But, you have been consistently wrong (seven old men, seriously?), even after being informed by other members of this forum. Enjoy your BT status.
In anyone opposed to the LoZ's sides defence, its not like LoZ really shows us its feats in the same way other games do. Like the past, timelines, direct showing of feats or evidence that a feat is always present.
Eg strength:
Kratos stops Cronos = Kratos stopping Cronos from crushing him
Only question is "How strong is Cronos?" Very basic thing which is why no one says he isnt that strong.
Dante stops the Savior = Dante stopping the Saviors attack
"Is the Savior hollow?" and "How strong was it?" not as easy as ^ but still very standard, so everyone still recognise it as legit.
TPLink clashed TPGanondorf = TPGanondorf being as strong as OoTGanon -> Ganon knocking a sword out of Links hand -> Need to be a ???tonner to to it with him wearing the gauntlets -> Link with the gauntlets can lift ???tons
"Are they the same strength?", "How does that mean he's > GGLink?", "Do the gauntlets work in that way?", and finally "How strong is Link?"
Sums up most of Links feats, it would help if some things were more obvious like the two above.
Originally posted by BloodRain
In anyone opposed to the LoZ's sides defence, its not like LoZ really shows us its feats in the same way other games do. Like the past, timelines, direct showing of feats or evidence that a feat is always present.Eg strength:
Kratos stops Cronos = Kratos stopping Cronos from crushing him
Only question is "How strong is Cronos?" Very basic thing which is why no one says he isnt that strong.Dante stops the Savior = Dante stopping the Saviors attack
"Is the Savior hollow?" and "How strong was it?" not as easy as ^ but still very standard, so everyone still recognise it as legit.TPLink clashed TPGanondorf = TPGanondorf being as strong as OoTGanon -> Ganon knocking a sword out of Links hand -> Need to be a ???tonner to to it with him wearing the gauntlets -> Link with the gauntlets can lift ???tons
"Are they the same strength?", "How does that mean he's > GGLink?", "Do the gauntlets work in that way?", and finally "How strong is Link?"
Sums up most of Links feats, it would help if some things were more obvious like the two above.
There's the argument that Saviour was slowly stopping moving during that punch as well.
You stretched this out unnecessarily.
TP Link swordlocks Ganondorf, and wins, and he stops beast Ganon, he's stopped both forms of Ganon with comparable amounts of effort. We know that at the very least, beast Ganon is stronger than OoT Link. Therefore:
TP Link > Ganon > OoT Link.
But on those two its mostly obvious, they did therefore they are. Zelda's seem to have alot more work and thought to get them.
Nah that covers the TP to GGOoT thing. The only way TPLink is that strong is if Ganondorf = Ganon in strength, then the idea of if he is actually stronger then OoTLink and then to the basic how strong is OoTLink. Its only an sample of confusing chains that need each chain-link to work.
Point is, ya can't blame those that question and argue against these feats (Sin and BT for instance) as the feats in question don't stand out and get alot of thought put into them to make them work. And feats with more thought then showings packed in are up to get changed by someone with a different thought.
Going for team FF.. least I think I was going for them >>
There's no more thought to Link's feats than there are to Kratos'.
TP Link over powers someone strong, he is strong.
^Same idea as Kratos. If anything Ganon proving how strong he is only adds credibility to the feat.
BT and Sin share some silly anti-Link crusade, and I can laugh at them all I want as they actually claim he's not superhuman with a straight face.
Kratos' are more basic and easier to workout and understand, besides the one or two feats that are are given the same treatment as Links.
Would be that simple if there wasn't that chain that goes on to prove Ganons strength. For Kratos' strength all thats asked for is how heavy or how much force was exerted. Basically for someone to accept that TPLinks that strong they have to accept the whole chain no questions asked.
More chains leads to more confusion. More confusion leads to more questions.
Anyway you know what im getting at here.
The chain for Kratos' current strength is actually kind of long. 😐
Mythological Atlas --> GoW Atlas ---> Cronos --->Zeus/Kratos.
JUST SAYIN'!
TP Link's is OoT-->Ganon--->TP
Simple. It's barely a chain, other characters have feats based on far less. And, it's backed by statements through out the game and stuff, so yeah.
Thats my point. The obvious; Cronos ---> Zeus/Kratos, very unlikely to argue with this. The one you posted now that extra ideas have been placed into it is now in the state where it can be thoroughly looked into and questioned.
Kratos stops Cronos = Link stops Dorf. ✓
Atlas of myth being the same here who equals Cronos = Links one. ~ hmm..
Is when each individual chain has its own questions and issues.
Atlas of myth being the same here who equals Cronos = Links one. ~ hmm..
Link's chain doesn't have that problem, and is shorter. 😎 Kratos is still strong as ****, but as I said, he's not about to hold up the earth.
Link does outright show his feats. O.o Semi-related? TP directly follows OoT in the timeline, and Ganondorf is the exact same person.
None of those are arguable, either. 😐
Feat one: Ganon disarms Link. This is inarguable.
Feat two. Link stops Ganon and over powers him on two seperate occasions. Inarguable.