Pokemon v.s. Final Fantasy, with less speculation!

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Not so sure it would work that way. Marrowak and Delibird are still able to hold their respective items, a club and a bag. It may not work on weapons. Even if it did, the materia seems to go into its user in AC so it is reasonable to assume it does the same in this case. Not too mention I think Cloud is still faster.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
But you are repeating yourself here.
I never said something against the Pokedex. I'm using logic to try to understand how his attack works. He has used this attack in the game or not? His attack has passed through some steel in the game? Or that's just some vague description about Blastoise?

The Anime has got its own Pokedex, you know.
I didn't said anything about Pikachu and his powers, I perfectly know his powers. At least you can use those as evidence.

First off, how have you not played a Pokemon game?

Next, no, Blastoise's water cannons have not punched through steel in the games, because it is not a move you can use outside of battle in the games.

Yeah, and if you'd notice, it tends to agree with the game's Pokedex, while many actions of Pokemon do not. The anime is a PIS monster producing machine.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Dissidia

Cloud's jumping can be mistaken for flying. It's far better than Mario's.

But it's useless against Ultimecia.

Uh-oh! BloodRain what does this mean? I thought Embargo prevents weapon use. Nope just item use. Alakazaam gets slaughtered for wasting its own time.

Dissidia isn't in this thread? Non canon game anyway.

Humor me, what is the highest he's jumped?

Marowak always has his bone in his sprite, why wouldn't it? However, if it is holding it's Thick Club item, it does lose that. Same with Farfetch'd and it's stick. Delibird doesn't have a special item.

Originally posted by BloodRain
The bag is its tail, and we've never seen someone use it on Marrowak. Im guessing if it were to be shown it'd drop it. All items regardless are useless. Cloud has to be faster then Zams mind.

It is? Huh, never noticed. lol I just didn't feel like bothering to look up how to spell Farfetch'd to use him as an example. But hey, learned something new today about Pokemon.

Back on topic, I rather still have to put money on Cloud. But even if he isn't fast enough, Ultimecia could just posses Alakazam and allow them to kill it easily enough so they could. Or Squall or Zell could use stop, preferably Zell as his only weapons are his fists.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice

Humor me, what is the highest he's jumped?

Go watch Advent Children. I can't give you measurements.

Marowak always has his bone in his sprite, why wouldn't it? However, if it is holding it's Thick Club item, it does lose that. Same with Farfetch'd and it's stick. Delibird doesn't have a special item.

Not all Marowaks hold Thick Clubs. It's just a rare item.

Embargo says items only.

Go watch Advent Children. I can't give you measurements.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Go watch Advent Children. I can't give you measurements.

Not all Marowaks hold Thick Clubs. It's just a rare item.

Embargo says items only.

What Scream said.

A sword is an item, wouldn't you agree?

Dont see how a sword wouldnt be an item still.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Dont see how a sword wouldnt be an item still.

Don't see any other way but this to respond to that. There are items in Final Fantasy. A weapon is classified as "equipment". Don't plan to really fight for this point but that's what the game says.

Like items and held items. Equipment would be held item.

Sword = item.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Like items and held items. Equipment would be held item.

Sword = item.

Meh. Doesn't matter. Can't stop Zell or Squall from using their magic. And once Alakazam is gone, Pokemon will not win.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
First off, how have you not played a Pokemon game?

Next, no, Blastoise's water cannons have not punched through steel in the games, because it is not a move you can use outside of battle in the games.

Well... I hadn't a Game Boy Advance... I can play games now that I got a Game Boy Advance Emulator, so... I could play Pokemon. Actually, I love Pokemon. Either way, you should play Final Fantasy VII, VIII and IX, in my opinion, they are the best ones.

It is not a move you can use outside of battle...? But, wasn't that a description of Blastoise's attack? If you can't use that attack outside battle, then how comes is canon? How comes he CAN DO IT? And if you can use it in the battles, how comes when you attack, you can't automatically kill? You can kill Pokemons with it, right? Automatically. I mean, that's common sense. Hell, if that water can pass through STEEL, then it would literally disintegrate a Pokemon. Aren't you guys taking these 'descriptions' too serious? Come on... Blastoise can't do that.

Anime is the best source you can use, you have all the evidence there. Don't worry, I'm not trying to change your mind, just saying.
It is easier to bring evidence from Blastoise when you can see all what he does, all of what he can deal or take, in live motion.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Dissidia isn't in this thread? Non canon game anyway.

Oh, I almost forgot. You don't need to use Dissidia. Ultimecia can stop time. She did it in Final Fantasy VIII while manipulating Edea.

And if you can use it in the battles, how comes when you attack, you can't automatically kill? You can kill Pokemons with it, right? Automatically. I mean, that's common sense. Hell, if that water can pass through STEEL, then it would literally disintegrate a Pokemon.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The same reason a pokemon who can move a mountain with one arm doesn't kill every pokemon with a punch. 😐 Pokemon are hax. Infact, many of them are described as harder than diamond, and other stuff.

The same reason of why I think they can't really do that.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
The same reason of why I think they can't really do that.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The pokedex is canon. 😐

I didn't said it wasn't.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The same reason a pokemon who can move a mountain with one arm doesn't kill every pokemon with a punch. 😐 Pokemon are hax. Infact, many of them are described as harder than diamond, and other stuff.

Originally posted by Heythere,Honey
I believe only Onix was described as harder than diamond.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
I didn't said it wasn't.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You're trying to disagree with it.

Not really, I just don't find it logical. I think I have already explained why. MowCow already said they can't do that outside of battle. Therefore it doesn't make any sense.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Not really, I just don't find it logical. I think I have already explained why. MowCow already said they can't do that outside of battle. Therefore it doesn't make any sense.