Originally posted by MadMel
you didnt contradict me in any way
Of course not my good friend, I would never do that. That was you, remember? Lol.
Or I have to post your first quote?
Originally posted by MadMel
i said who the director and producers were
you said who the writer and producers were
I didn't said what the producers were.
I said who is the most authority. (Which is what matters here).
Satoshi Tajiri says hi.
Which you probably or conveniently forgot.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
But how do you know Charizard is weaker in the Anime? How can you compare the Charizard from the game with the one from the Anime? I bet it does the same in those battles. It seems you are having problems in understanding my point. You said Charizard can melt glaciers, but he did it or not? It doesn't matter if it's a game, they can make Charizard to melt a glacier if they want. But that's what I need to know. You said they can't do it outside battles. Then Charizard can melt glaciers inside a battle? 😕
With fire hot enough to melt a 10,000 ton glacier, he wouldn't melt that rock, he would incinerate it. You really must be confused, because now you're putting words in my mouth. I did not say they cannot use these moves outside of battle. No, he did not do it in game. The Pokedex says he can, it is that simple. You are not understanding that simple point.
And actually, it does matter if its a game. Because they can't program the ability to go around shooting fire wherever you please and burn down houses and trees and easily kill people with a swipe of a Nidoking's tail.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
You aren't saying anything new here... The one that needs to understand is you not me. You lack evidence, my friend. Don't you see is inconsistent? Machamp can move mountains with his arm, you said they can't do all of that outside battles, therefore Machamp can move mountains inside a battle. So he can throw mountains to his opponents inside battles or something?
Of course it's inconsistent lmao, you're trying to use the anime as proof against the Pokedex. What did you expect? An agreement between the two? No, I did NOT say they can't do it outside of battles, because that is stupid.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Being produced before means nothing, as you admitted both are source of canon. You would be right if the Anime were an spin-off which is not. I said the Anime have more showings, is logical, can be backed up and it is not inconsistent as these descriptions are. But that's okay... It's hard to make a fan-boy to understand. If you could read well what I'm writting you'll realize I'm not trying to change your mind, I just want you to understand me. This topic will continue, I don't want to change any rules, please, don't worry.
No, the anime is very inconsistent.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Be gentle and refresh my memory, I don't remember what I have asked at this point.
The Caterpie thing.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
And the game has tendency to exaggerate their powers, I have already explained it though. If we follow the logic that the game was before the Anime, thus is more important, then we'll have to delete all the other games that came after the Anime since they came after, that's illogical, you admitted both are source of canon. All of what you can see in the Anime does NOT need to be backed up. What's a fan-boy card?
No, it doesn't. The Pokedex is an encyclopedia, for one, and good encyclopedias do not throw page after page of hyperbole at you. The Anime exaggerates powers far more than the games can ever hope. See Ash's Pikachu, Gardenia's Turtwig, Roark's Rampardos, Ash's Grotle, Brock's Happiny (incredibly important), Dawn's Piplup and Cyndaquil.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Without evidence and inconsistent.
I didn't said you were wrong though... 😐 The whole thing it doesn't fit.
I have my theories on this canon now, but bothering to explain them won't really change what anyone thinks about it.
I've yet to see Ultimecia control time other than compressing it, which she cannot do here. She was then beaten by the FF8 Party, which these Pokemon are better than.
Originally posted by PhanterosBy setting her on fire, shoosting her with water, or using ye old quick attack. She's not particularly durable, no particularly destructive without her time compression. Not sure I've seen her use a time stop outside of Dissidia, but if that can be shown, cool.
rather than Naah tell me how they counter it.
This frog thing sounds like a bucket of lulz though. 😐
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
By setting her on fire, shoosting her with water, or using ye old quick attack. She's not particularly durable, no particularly destructive without her time compression. Not sure I've seen her use a time stop outside of Dissidia, but if that can be shown, cool.This frog thing sounds like a bucket of lulz though. 😐
Control over time pretty much makes most, if not all pokemon attacks worthless. Griever posted a video earlier of her stopping time. And by the way, out of the pokemon you mentioned, none of them can use quick attack. Unless you count the Birthday Charmander.
It is a comical attack. But its still legit. 😖hifty: