Originally posted by Darth Martin
After minutes of rest and meditation from Qui Gon, Maul killed him in no more than 30 seconds. I'd say him being "far better" is completely justified.
But that minute of rest was after a lot more minutes of fighting, I doubt he was near fully recovered.
Maul had a much deeper tank.
Originally posted by truejediSeems pretty close to me.
I'm reading a lot of assumptions and no quotes. I've seen at least one fallacy. TPM novelization does not portray Maul as "far superior"Read: p. 300:
"(QGJ) was attacking with a ferocity that seemed to have the Sith Lord stymied. With quick, hard strokes of his lightsaber, he bored into his adversary, deliberately engaging in close-quarters combat, refusing to let the other bring his double-bladed weapon to bear. He drove Darth Maul backward about the rim of the overhang, keeping the Sith Lord constantly on the defensive, pressing in on him steadily. QGJ might no longer be young, but he was still powerful. Darth Maul's ragged face took on a frenzied look, and the glitter of his strange eyes brightened with uncertainty. ...
...Stroke for stroke, QG and Darth Maul battled about the rim of the melting pit, locked in a combat that seemed endless and forever and could be won by neither."
Well, I got this:
The Sith Lord was supple and quick, and he worked his way between the Jedi with confidence and ease, whipping his two-ended lightsaber back and forth between them, more than holding his own against their efforts to bring him down. He was skilled, Anakin saw-more skilled, perhaps, than the men he faced. And he was confident in a way that was disturbing. He would not be overcome easily.
gb2/b/
In the case of conflicting canon, yes. This case? No. How can you tell if someone is the superior fighter, just by looking at the screen? Using this unorthodox method, I suppose you can tell which form they used, how much energy they put into the duel, how close the duel was... etc.
But dude, seriously, gb2/b/
Do you see Maul's garments ripped, damaged, torn, or in any kind of disfiguration?
Does Maul seemed overwhelmed by Jinn ever in the duel. The only significant move Jinn makes against Maul is when he knocks him off the ramp, of which Maul's attention had been removed due to him kicking Kenobi's ass off first.
Whenever Jinn had to go solo against Maul he was overwhelmed. Fact. Tatooine. Naboo.
Originally posted by truejediUsually, I'd gladly use the novel as an expanding source of material as your saying. But it directly contradicts with what is shown in the screenplay. I have to accept the film over it here.
If you can actually find a contradiction, good for you, but since there are giant CUTS in between parts of the fight, everything in the novel applies, since it could easily be placed into the parts of the fight you didn't see.
On film, Maul is never shown to be overwhelmed(facial expression).
Originally posted by Shoes
In the case of conflicting canon, yes. This case? [b]No. How can you tell if someone is the superior fighter, just by looking at the screen? Using this unorthodox method, I suppose you can tell which form they used, how much energy they put into the duel, how close the duel was... etc. [/B]
Maul is quite obviously the superior fighter. He kicked both of there asses throughout the entire duel.