Comic Book Martial Artist Hierarchy

Started by srankmissingnin83 pages

FYI guys Black Panther didn't "beat" Taskmaster. He hit him once and Taskmaster wasn't seen again... in that issue, but Black Panther isn't the only book that fight was shown in. It was the last battle in Civil War, it was in in several titles from several different perspectives, not the least of which being Civil War #7 where Invisible Woman takes down Taskmaster herself. Remember? Tasky shot Reed and Sue crushed his ass.

oh shit thats the fight everyone talking about from civil war?

Originally posted by Bentley
He was affected by a virus, right? High-end feat for Red Skull, who has given many top tiers problems.

Nope, he was unaffected. Red Skull was just kicking his ass.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
FYI guys Black Panther didn't "beat" Taskmaster. He hit him once and Taskmaster wasn't seen again... in that issue,

Which probably meant hes was KTFO.

Everyone stop fannying about, if T'challa isnto going to the top tier Marvel Slot, then put Tom Shishido in.

^ Gorgon hasn't done anything that impressive in my view with fighting skills. Granted, I may be conflating his being a "superman" as Wolverine coins it, but not sure why everyone's pushing him for top tier. I'm against putting him in the top tier (I think I noted that before but not sure), although I admit he'd kick T'Challa's kiester and many others in a fight.

Originally posted by Deadline
Which probably meant hes was KTFO.

Did you just stop reading there? Or did you actually finish Srank's post where he explained that Tasky wasn't KO'd by BP, as can be seen by Civil War #7?

Originally posted by Martian_mind
When he doesn't need the Falcons help to take down Red Skull.
???

T'Challa wasn't fighting a regular red skull, the red skull had been physically enhanced. He still won.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Did you just stop reading there? Or did you actually finish Srank's post where he explained that Tasky wasn't KO'd by BP, as can be seen by Civil War #7?
because he was seen later, doesn't mean he wasn't beaten. T'Challa one shot's taskmaster than goes on to help his other allies, that doesn't mean taskmaster was out for the entire fight.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
It not panther hate it hudlin hate.

hudlin a shitty ass writer who writes certain characters up such as black panther while writing others down like say the x-men asside from any who is black, taskmaster ect.

Yes that is shitt writing for taskmaster to be KO in a single hit he wear armor designed to wistand superhuman blows.

Hudlin didn't have T'Challa do anythign that was out of character or that previous writers, such as Priest, didn't have him do before. I love how people always try to bring race up just because T'Challa has good showings.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Nope, he was unaffected. Red Skull was just kicking his ass.

Johann is uber.

I'll read the comic and then come back to you uhuh

Originally posted by Trackz
Hudlin didn't have T'Challa do anythign that was out of character or that previous writers, such as Priest, didn't have him do before. I love how people always try to bring race up just because T'Challa has good showings.

True. T'challa was nonesensical in the Priest run, even more than in Hudlin's IMO.

this is illogical, panther has all the feats taking on top tiers and other opponents, i mean panther has stated to have circus performers as skilled as bullseye (after he punked the skurll who tried to use bullseyes skill against him)

he's one shotted karnak (twice), taskmaster, and hawkeye
got the better of wolverine in two encounters
stalemated daredevil
took out a skrull with the skills of most of the people in the top tier list and some in the second tier, himself included.
his feats go on and on,

who is more deserving than him for the top spot?

Originally posted by Bentley
True. T'challa was nonesensical in the Priest run, even more than in Hudlin's IMO.
He wasn't nonsensical, that's how he's supposed to be, he's always been written like that, priest just popularized the character. People can't seem to get over race, that the only reason he's been able to do what he has is because writers are biased. Despite him being consistent. Makes no sense.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Everyone stop fannying about, if T'challa isnto going to the top tier Marvel Slot, then put Tom Shishido in.
has he ever been shown to fight hand-to-hand on panel?

Originally posted by Trackz
has he ever been shown to fight hand-to-hand on panel?

i think Wolverine and Elektra would call him one of the greatest martial artists theyve ever fought, not currently regarded as a top tier.

I certainly couldnt justify him being in the same tier as..Bucky, for instance.
Neither could you, nor anyone else.

And if T'Challa isnt going to take the marvel spot, and Psylocke isnt going to take the Marvel Top tier slot show me someone in Tier 2 who matches Gorgon..i suppose 😕

Originally posted by Trackz
He wasn't nonsensical, that's how he's supposed to be, he's always been written like that, priest just popularized the character. People can't seem to get over race, that the only reason he's been able to do what he has is because writers are biased. Despite him being consistent. Makes no sense.

I'm not saying its not a part of the character, but its not exactly unfair to call it nonesensical, because crazy feats kind of are (just think about Reed's Celestial Gun and the Anti-Galactus suit). My point was precisely that Panther was doing crazy feats way before Hudlin.

Originally posted by Trackz
Hudlin didn't have T'Challa do anythign that was out of character or that previous writers, such as Priest, didn't have him do before. I love how people always try to bring race up just because T'Challa has good showings.

Ad Hominem Abusive fallacy.

Everyone needs to stop being racist and just nominate a white man to the top tier spot instead of a black guy and an asian guy and girl. ermm

That'll solve everything. ermmhappy

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Everyone needs to stop being racist and just nominate a white man to the top tier spot instead of a black guy and an asian guy and girl. ermm

That'll solve everything. ermmhappy