Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So anyway, that said and done....How big is this ****in' graveyard?
See, that's the thing, make it a 50' X 50' ten person plot yard or a massive muilti mile yard like the ones used for burying military personal, Vader still has the upper-hand either way.
That should tell you who's inherently more powerful, the guy that can kick-ass in a general fashion, or the guy that needs specific catering in order to have a chance.
Originally posted by Robtard
See, that's the thing, make it a 50' X 50' 10 person plot yard or a massive muilti mile yard like the ones used for burying military personal, Vader still has the upper-hand.That should tell you who's inherently more powerful, the guy that can kick-ass in a general fashion, or the guy that needs specific catering in order to have a chance.
Not really. The bigger the graveyard, the longer it takes for Vader to attack, giving Harry all the more time to do...whatever.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not really. The bigger the graveyard, the longer it takes for Vader to attack, giving Harry all the more time to do...whatever.
Vader can manipulate people with the Force across vast distances of space. Do you think even a military sized graveyard is going to be a problem for him? Dude can sense shit without seeing it, as shown.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So Vader force chokes Harry right away, yeah?
He could choke him for theatrics, or he could just break his neck, crush his larynx, slam him into one of many gravestones thereby cracking his head etc. Lots of options.
Harry has to play the mouse to Vader's cat here, very telling.
Originally posted by Rogue JediGrip is used to slowly kill someone--Vader's favorite. Crush is just the same moved amplified. Pretty basic TK. But anywhoo:
Nope. Force choke is never shown killing instantly. To say that it "can" is speculation. Speculation goes on aisle 7, right next to the bullshit flavored ice cream.
I was going to bother to respond of ^ that, but I've lost my steroids plucky enthusiasm. So I'll just re-quote this:
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Lucien is right RJ. You are pwned again.
Originally posted by truejediMhm, but there are several non verbal spells that'll **** Vader's shit up and good.
force choking does keep people from saying the magic words, instantly.
Originally posted by Lord LucienForce Crush is out. Rob and I already discussed this.
Grip is used to slowly kill someone--Vader's favorite. Crush is just the same moved amplified. Pretty basic TK. But anywhoo:I was going to bother to respond of ^ that, but I've lost my
steroidsplucky enthusiasm. So I'll just re-quote this:
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mhm, but there are several non verbal spells that'll **** Vader's shit up and good.
before he finishes killing potter with the force? How long do you think that's actually going to take, anyway? You keep saying not instantaneously, but you are treating it like he has long minutes at his disposal.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nope. Force choke is never shown killing instantly. To say that it "can" is speculation. Speculation goes on aisle 7, right next to the bullshit flavored ice cream.
I said "break", not choke. The Force can be used to manipulative objects that weigh hundreds of tons (as shown) a boys neck will appear to be as brittle as dry straw under Force manipulation.
And we do have footage of Vader crushing multiple objects, while simultaneously shaking a building at its foundation. I know you'll cry "only when he's upset" as some shit-ploy manuver, but again, he's not doing all that here, he's doing far, far, far, far, far, far, far less. A boy's neck to be exact; no need to be butt-hurt to do so little.
Originally posted by Rogue JediForce Crush is out. Rob and I already discussed this.
Honky, please.
Originally posted by Robtard
I said "break", not choke. The Force can be used to manipulative objects that weigh hundreds of tons (as shown) a boys neck will appear to be as brittle as dry strawAnd we do have footage of Vader crushing multiple objects, while simultaneously shaking a building at its foundation. I know you'll cry "only when he's upset" as some shit-ploy tactics, but again, he's not doing all that here, he's doing far, far, far, far, far, far, far less. A boy's neck to be exact.
And Harry can fire spells faster than Force choke is applied. Watch:
The non verbal spells he and Draco are casting are FAST, dude. Faster than Vader can dodge. One hit to his breathing apparatus and he's done.