Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And Harry can fire spells faster than Force choke is applied. Watch:The non verbal spells he and Draco are casting are FAST, dude. Faster than Vader can dodge. One hit to his breathing apparatus and he's done.
Video didn't work. But if it's that "cutting" spell, that won't do shit to Vader either and that's a BIG if. So you just killed Potter again. He tries to cut Vader, Vader laughs and crushes his neck or Force-slams him into a headstone, cracking his head open. Though really, Potter is dead long before that.
Originally posted by Rogue JediThe non verbal spells he and Draco are casting are FAST, dude. Faster than Vader can dodge. One hit to his breathing apparatus and he's done.
You know what's funny?
1. Vader has a lightsaber that he blocks Blaster bolts with.
2. Vader has been shown to block blaster bolts WITH HIS HAND. (how are fire-balls any more dangerous than a blaster bolt?)
3. HARRY AND DRACO ARE DODGING THESE ATTACKS!!! IF THEY CAN DODGE THESE ATTACKS, THEN VADER, WITH THE HELP OF THE FORCE CAN EASILY DODGE THEM.
You just said attacks cannot be dodged while giving a scene where they are being dodged by 2 people. Are you out of your mind? I think your whole argument THERE just fell down around your ears.
Originally posted by truejedi
You know what's funny?1. Vader has a lightsaber that he blocks Blaster bolts with.
2. Vader has been shown to block blaster bolts WITH HIS HAND. (how are fire-balls any more dangerous than a blaster bolt?)
3. HARRY AND DRACO ARE DODGING THESE ATTACKS!!! IF THEY CAN DODGE THESE ATTACKS, THEN VADER, WITH THE HELP OF THE FORCE CAN EASILY DODGE THEM.
You just said attacks cannot be dodged while giving a scene where they are being dodged by 2 people. Are you out of your mind? I think your whole argument THERE just fell down around your ears.
1. He aint gonna block Sectumsempra, man.
2. See above.
3. Vader, in his suit, was SLOW. He lumbered about like a fat woman at a buffet line.
Then there's always this:
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
[B]1. He aint gonna block Sectumsempra, man.
You will need to prove that. looked very much like a ranged energy attack, just the kind lightsabers are suited to block.
and For your final retort there: Precog, obviously, unless you are just trying to take the ability completely off the table of Jedi that are known to use it.
Originally posted by truejedi
You will need to prove that. looked very much like a ranged energy attack, just the kind lightsabers are suited to block.and For your final retort there: Precog, obviously, unless you are just trying to take the ability completely off the table of Jedi that are known to use it.
Did you see what it did to Draco's torso? It shredded it, man, with 3-4 huge gashes. It's obviously a spell that covers a wide area.
Precog could work, but again, Vader moves slow in his suit. If Harry is casting spells left and right, Vader is gonna be too busy evading to form an offensive. First time he stops blocking and goes to attack, he'll be spelled.
Originally posted by truejediFrom what I remember, they did advance, like you said, but most of the time they relied on saber attacks in the end, or redirecting blaster fire on the droid/s.
I seem to remember in AOTC that Jedi blocked attacks (that were coming from automatic weapons none the less, potter cannot launch attacks faster than THAT) and advanced on the offensive at the same time.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Did you see what it did to Draco's torso? It shredded it, man, with 3-4 huge gashes. It's obviously a spell that covers a wide area.Precog could work, but again, Vader moves slow in his suit. If Harry is casting spells left and right, Vader is gonna be too busy evading to form an offensive. First time he stops blocking and goes to attack, he'll be spelled.
Oi, that cutting spell ain't doing shit here, Vader's suit far > linen shirt and boy-flesh.
Lol, dude. The other way around, Vader will be pushing the fight and Potter will be running/hiding. Vader on the defensive here is utter nonsense, he may need to defend once, then his counter leaves Potter dead or just as good as.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
From what I remember, they did advance, like you said, but most of the time they relied on saber attacks in the end, or redirecting blaster fire on the droid/s.
that's fine, a saber attack would be plenty sufficient for a win, but i have no idea if the fire-balls could actually be deflected or not, so if Harry is busy firing his spells as fast as you say, Vader is likely to just finish him with the blade when he reaches him.
Harry should try a different tactic, the fire-balls aren't going to work,
and the inflating thing is going to fail worse than miserably.
Originally posted by Robtard
Oi, that cutting spell ain't doing shit here, Vader's suit far > linen shirt and boy-flesh.
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Lol, dude. The other way around, Vader will be pushing the fight and Potter will be running/hiding. Vader on the defensive here is utter nonsense, he may need to defend once, then his counter leaves Potter death or just as good.Mhm, and Vader'll be inflated and flying away.
Originally posted by truejediFrom all the way across the big ass graveyard? haermm
that's fine, a saber attack would be plenty sufficient for a win, but i have no idea if the fire-balls could actually be deflected or not, so if Harry is busy firing his spells as fast as you say, Vader is likely to just finish him with the blade when he reaches him.Harry should try a different tactic, the fire-balls aren't going to work,
and the inflating thing is going to fail worse than miserably.
Harry vanishes Vader AND the lightsaber. Evanesco.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedireducto. bombarda.
Mhm, and Vader'll be inflated and flying away.
Two good attack spells, but once again you're ignoring precog and Vader's superior reaction-time. Broken neck and/or shattered body means Potter isn't casting. Vader's also has the option to throw his sabre offensively, should be want to for shits and giggles.
See above.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
From what I remember, they did advance, like you said, but most of the time they relied on saber attacks in the end, or redirecting blaster fire on the droid/s.
That describes Jedi trained from a young age. Vader's fighting style is significantly more aggressive; he uses the Force during his lightsaber duel with Luke in ESB. There is obviously no obstacle for Vader (the person we are discussing) to use the Force offensively within a combat speed timeframe.