Originally posted by Zampanó
"most of the time."That describes Jedi trained from a young age. Vader's fighting style is significantly more aggressive; he uses the Force during his lightsaber duel with Luke in ESB. There is obviously no obstacle for Vader (the person we are discussing) to use the Force offensively within a combat speed timeframe.
Protego. 😄
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Don't recall Vader moving fast in the suit. He moved at human speeds.
Did I say "Vader is going to run at Potter"?No.
He has Force-precog and is fast enough to block baster bolts and Force-pull weapons all in one quick motion, as seen. IE he can block (due to precog)and use the Force, just like that.
Your balloon theory is terrible. It took a minute and a half. 90 seconds that Vader will still have to use the force to kill Potter. You really need to drop that one. It never actually killed in the clip provided.
Secondly, what do you mean across the big graveyard? Of course, the farther away Vader is, the easier it will be for him to deflect energy attacks. Precog, remember.
And is this vanishing a spoken command? We just talked about how a force choke will can instantaneously remove potter's ability to speak.
Originally posted by Rogue JediDid Harry apparate in the movies without the help of others? I recall a line from Hallows from... Molly, I think, about people who can't apparate alone to pair up. Is Harry ever seen apparating alone?
Don't recall Vader moving fast in the suit. He moved at human speeds.
Originally posted by truejediAnd his ability to think with a clear head.
Your balloon theory is terrible. It took a minute and a half. 90 seconds that Vader will still have to use the force to kill Potter. You really need to drop that one. It never actually killed in the clip provided.Secondly, what do you mean across the big graveyard? Of course, the farther away Vader is, the easier it will be for him to deflect energy attacks. Precog, remember.
And is this vanishing a spoken command? We just talked about how a force choke will can instantaneously remove potter's ability to speak.
I don't think that is an effective defense. While Protego might work to defend against one or two objects flung at a time, direct manipulation of Harry's body itself (for example, the arteries going to his brain) will not be affected. The Force actually applies kinetic force directly to the membranes being manipulated; there is no physical manifestation traveling between Vader and Harry to be blocked by Protego.
Originally posted by ZampanóThat's true, it's not a traditional ranged attack: the effect is akin to mental teleportation.
I don't think that is an effective defense. While Protego might work to defend against one or two objects flung at a time, direct manipulation of Harry's body itself (for example, the arteries going to his brain) will not be affected. The Force actually applies kinetic force directly to the membranes being manipulated; there is no physical manifestation traveling between Vader and Harry to be blocked by Protego.
Originally posted by truejediAnd you think Vader'll hold it together as he inflates?
Your balloon theory is terrible. It took a minute and a half. 90 seconds that Vader will still have to use the force to kill Potter. You really need to drop that one. It never actually killed in the clip provided.
Secondly, what do you mean across the big graveyard? Of course, the farther away Vader is, the easier it will be for him to deflect energy attacks. Precog, remember.That was in response to the saber attack fail theory.
And is this vanishing a spoken command? We just talked about how a force choke will can instantaneously remove potter's ability to speak.And Harry can cast several non verbal spells.
Originally posted by Lord LucienIt'll block physical attacks like saber attacks and force lightning just fine. Not sure about force choke.
Protego blocks the Force now?
Originally posted by RobtardIf he tries to block Reducto, his arm will be blown off.
Did I say "Vader is going to run at Potter"?No.He has Force-precog and is fast enough to block baster bolts and Force-pull weapons all in one quick motion, as seen. IE he can block (due to precog)and use the Force, just like that.
Originally posted by ZampanóThe most Protego will do is block saber attacks and force lightning.
I don't think that is an effective defense. While Protego might work to defend against one or two objects flung at a time, direct manipulation of Harry's body itself (for example, the arteries going to his brain) will not be affected. The Force actually applies kinetic force directly to the membranes being manipulated; there is no physical manifestation traveling between Vader and Harry to be blocked by Protego.
Force choke and others? Not even worth discussing, no way to prove yes or no, so we must assume not.
Originally posted by Rogue JediProtego can block a beam of pure energy? Since when? And since when can it block a manifestation of Force energy? (Lightning isn't literally electricity, it's pure Dark Side energy).
It'll block physical attacks like saber attacks and force lightning just fine. Not sure about force choke.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And you think Vader'll hold it together as he inflates?
Even Potter's Aunt held it together right up until she floated out. She was yelling "somebody help me" Now if she had the power to help herself, like kill POTTER, she would have done it. Vader can do the same, unless you want to say Vader is going to freak out more than Potter's aunt?
That was in response to the saber attack fail theory.
In a scenario that YOU brought up when Harry can't speak.
And Harry can cast several non verbal spells.
Vanishing? That's the spell you brought up. Is it non-verbal?
It'll block physical attacks like saber attacks and force lightning just fine. Not sure about force choke.
Why would it? It wouldn't block force choke OR force lightning, UNLESS you are ready to concede that a force shield will block all of Harry's spells? Deal? If so, that's fine, he uses Protego, Vader uses Force shield, and they go at it hand to hand? I'm taking Vader in that scenario.
Originally posted by truejediLOL she was freaking out from the get go, man.Even Potter's Aunt held it together right up until she floated out. She was yelling "somebody help me" Now if she had the power to help herself, like kill POTTER, she would have done it. Vader can do the same, unless you want to say Vader is going to freak out more than Potter's aunt?[/b]
In a scenario that YOU brought up when Harry can't speak.Non verbal spells.
Vanishing? That's the spell you brought up. Is it non-verbal?Nope, but Harry has a shitload of non verbal spells.
[b]Why would it? It wouldn't block force choke OR force lightning, UNLESS you are ready to concede that a force shield will block all of Harry's spells? Deal? If so, that's fine, he uses Protego, Vader uses Force shield, and they go at it hand to hand? I'm taking Vader in that scenario.Force shield, in the movies? When?