Harry Potter vs Darth Vader · Movie Versus Forum

truejedi Senior Member

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Rendered useless how? He can still move his hands. One flick of the wand and Vader's done.
Force choke against a wizard is a death sentence for a force user.

If he keeps his wits around him i guess, but in what way is Vader done if Potter flicks his wand? Please be more specific.

Zampanó The Blind Critic

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Amping up? He raises his wand and the spell comes out. Even if Vader grabs ahold of Harry with force choke, it'll take him a while to kill him. Harry has all the time in the world to cast a non verbal spell.

Harry's inflation of Marge was not accomplished by wand.

He spends a while being buthurt before he can do it.

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
So you think that because Vader isn't shown gripping harder than he does, that he can't? Wow, very nice. It's like saying Harry can't use any spell that he's never shown to do so in the movie. Please, you know better than that. Vader effortlessly, and without his hands to direct, rips apart metal protrusions from the wall. Gripping a human's neck tighter is a cakewalk for him.

What's the high end feat of a force choke, shown onscreen?

Thought so.

truejedi Senior Member

what non-verbal spells is harry going to use to beat Vader RJ?

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Originally posted by truejedi
what non-verbal spells is harry going to use to beat Vader RJ?

Watch the sectumsempra vid.

Lord Lucien Lets all love Lain

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What's the high end feat of a force choke, shown onscreen?
Thought so.

What's the high end feat of sectumsempra on screen? Cutting in to the muscle of a teenage human's chest? Yeah, Vader's durasteel/cortosis (lightsaber resistant armor) is sooo much weaker than skin.

Zampanó The Blind Critic

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Rendered useless how? He can still move his hands. One flick of the wand and Vader's done.
Force choke against a wizard is a death sentence for a force user.

Let's say that Harry has just been seized. He has enough air left to power his brain for one more spell. He fires that spell. Even assuming that it is a one hit kill (Bombarda Maxima, perhaps) leaves Vader with a single, linear attack to dodge. There are not quintillions of droids shooting at him, there are not a bajillion ships flying around them, hell, there isn't even the sound of traffic to distract him.

One word: Precognition.

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
What's the high end feat of sectumsempra on screen? Cutting in to the muscle of a teenage human's chest? Yeah, Vader's durasteel/cortosis (lightsaber resistant armor) is sooo much weaker than skin.

What's the high end feat of reducto, or bombarda?

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Next?

Zampanó The Blind Critic

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Watch the sectumsempra vid.

Sectumsempera was never shown nonverbally.

truejedi Senior Member

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Watch the sectumsempra vid.

it was verbal. He said "Sectumsempra"

I asked for non-verbal attacks.

Zampanó The Blind Critic

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What's the high end feat of reducto, or bombarda?
😄
Next?

Bombarda was never shown nonverbally.

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Originally posted by truejedi
it was verbal. He said "Sectumsempra"
I asked for non-verbal attacks.

No. Watch the fight leading up to sectumsempra.

Zampanó The Blind Critic

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What's the high end feat of reducto, or bombarda?
😄
Next?

Reducto was never shown nonverbally. Even in tDH part 1, Harry voices the incantation "reducto" while attacking the Horcrux.

truejedi Senior Member

are any of his one-hit kills non-verbal anyway?

Lord Lucien Lets all love Lain

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What's the high end feat of reducto, or bombarda?
😄
Next?

Taking half a dozen to break through stone? Or blowing open an iron door? Durasteel and cortosis>>>>>>>>>>>stone and iron.

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Nope, but they were shown shattering stone walls. One hit on Vader's breathing apparatus or mask and he's done.

Zampanó The Blind Critic

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No. Watch the fight leading up to sectumsempra.

The non-verbal spells in that video are all dodged. However, you have said that sectumsempera was never dodged. Thus, either those spells were not sectumsempera (and therefore it has not been shown nonverbally) or they were sectumsempera and the spell has been dodged.

Your own words:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sectumsempra wasn't dodged.
All I'm saying is that Harry casts spells faster than Vader casts force attacks. I've got video evidence to back it up, what have you got?

truejedi Senior Member

actually no, he survives long minutes after getting his breathing apparatus torched in ROTJ. Plenty of minutes to finish of Harry with a force choke...

Lord Lucien Lets all love Lain

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nope, but they were shown shattering stone walls. One hit on Vader's breathing apparatus or mask and he's done.

Yeah, cuz they'll be moving at speeds that Vader can't--oh, wait... verbal usage + precognitive foresight + crushed windpipe = not much use to Harry.

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Yeah, cuz they'll be moving at speeds that Vader can't--oh, wait... verbal usage + precognitive foresight + crushed windpipe = not much use to Harry.

And when was postsuit Vader shown moving at anything other than human speeds? When was force choke shown crushing windpipes instantly?