Originally posted by Rogue JediWhen has Harry apparated alone? When has reducto been used non-verbally? When has Sectumpsempra shown cutting through anything more than muscle? When has Harry ever used bombarda?
And when was postsuit Vader shown moving at anything other than human speeds? When was force choke shown crushing windpipes instantly?
That's not what our argument was: It was precog. Vader moved fast enough to block blaster bolts with his HAND.
Our other argument is that Harry cannot speak once force choke begins and he willl need to keep his head about him, (Instead of clutching at his throat, like every other non-force sensitive who has ever encountered Force choke does) and then cast a really good unblockable, undodgeable nonverbal spell.
You need to provide that spell.
Originally posted by truejedi
That's not what our argument was: It was precog. Vader moved fast enough to block blaster bolts with his HAND.Our other argument is that Harry cannot speak once force choke begins and he willl need to keep his head about him, (Instead of clutching at his throat, like every other non-force sensitive who has ever encountered Force choke does) and then cast a really good unblockable, undodgeable nonverbal spell.
You need to provide that spell.
Han fired into the same place, over and over, dude.
Provide what spell? The sectumsempra vid is chocked full of them.
Unless you are implying that Vader can force choke AND dodge at the same time?
Originally posted by truejedia nonverbal spell will stun the shit outta Vader. After that, reducto, bombarda, or avada kedavra.
Sectumsempra was not nonverbal.The fire-balls before could be blocked by vader's hand or lightsaber, as shown in ESB. Energy attacks are not the way to go against a Jedi. Does harry have anything more deadly?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
a nonverbal spell will stun the shit outta Vader. After that, reducto, bombarda, or avada kedavra.
where do we see one of those spells stunning anyone? I saw a couple of adolescents who could dodge them simply by dodging behind cement walls. So vader huddles behind a crypt and keeps choking Harry (Who can't move btw.... since force choke lifts someone up off the ground) How is this going to help Harry?
Originally posted by truejediVader huddles behind a crypt? crylaugh
where do we see one of those spells stunning anyone? I saw a couple of adolescents who could dodge them simply by dodging behind cement walls. So vader huddles behind a crypt and keeps choking Harry (Who can't move btw.... since force choke lifts someone up off the ground) How is this going to help Harry?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Vader huddles behind a crypt? crylaugh
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Originally posted by truejediNo, laughter is a way of diffusing the the uncertainty. It helps to reassure the ego that "it's okay, just mock them" will make itself feel better.
is laughter your way of saying "crap didn't think of that when I was describing the only possible way that Harry has any prayer in this duel?"
Originally posted by ZampanóVader wouldn't hide behind a crypt, man.
Posting a laughing emoticon doesn't change the fact that Harry hasn't shown himself able to get through a stone barrier, especially while incapacitated from lack of air (and panic) to say nothing about being lifted bodily from the ground.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not Vader's style, dude.
Vader used a similar tactic in RotJ while pursuing Luke aboard the Death Star. Vader is not a berserker, not as shown in the films.
Originally posted by ZampanóSo you really think he'll hide? Like a *****?
I beg to differ. The ESB duel shows that Vader is more than willing to use the terrain to his advantage. He goes out of Luke's line of sight several times. He uses the Force against Luke several times. Once, he uses the Force against Luke while out of his line of sight. This tactic is well within Vader's "style."Vader used a similar tactic in RotJ while pursuing Luke aboard the Death Star. Vader is not a berserker, not as shown in the films.
I was taught that using profanity shows your inability to come up with a synonym.
Vader has, above all, been shown to be an intelligent and methodical combatant. If he discovers that none of Harry's attacks can penetrate a stone barrier, he will discover a stone barrier. This will allow any number of other, more roundabout techniques. He might try "dun moch" (which is just the fanon word for mind-raping an enemy) or he might simply apply telekinesis to Harry's demise. (Force Choke is, as Lucien noted, a video game concept. Vader's TK is easily powerful enough to tear apart a human.)