Originally posted by ScreamPasteDue to the boots. It's not a strength feat if you need the boots to do so. Swordlocking Ganondorf also doesn't show him to be insanely strong.
You /did/ watch Link throw Dangoro, overpower Fyrus, stop Ganon, and swordlock Ganondorf, yes? If so, you cannot deny Link has super strength. Period.
He didn't stop Ganon Midna did. Midna states I will stop him and you bite him when he's on the ground.
Link was taught the necessary skills to do what he did while the mayor previously did with the iron boots. Link needed the necessary skills to defeat his opponents he didn't overpower his enemies with speed or power. He also had better gear such as the master sword but still needed the proper skills and training.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
It's called magic.Link was only able to pull its legs. He never yanked it so he can fall violently.
The same reason why Link needs Iron Boots to do his strength feats.
So you've failed to refute Spinda. 👆
And he did this because the shackles were attached to it's legs. This does not mean Link cannot lift Fyrus. It may even prove he likely can, as he is yanking Fyrus' weight out from under it.
So you're saying Wolf Link is fat? You would have to be, because that's the only way what you said would make any difference.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Nothing to do to with super strength? Do you have any idea how heavy the hammer has to be to force that pillar to move? 😐 To effectively swing it, let alone lift it, makes Link well above a 60 tonner without gauntlets.
The Red Faction Sledge Hammer could do all of the Megaton Hammer's "feats" and its wielded by ordinary humans. The
Spoiler:Quit pulling this ridiculous math outta your ass.
Megaton Hammer is a legendary weapon that was used against Volvagia. Link couldn't even hurt the dragon with his "uber" Master Sword without the hammer.
Ganon's TK is magic based, so?
Spoiler:. Common sense.
The floating castle wasn't an act of TK at all
His boots were magneticly attached to the floor, and without them he'd be too light to achieve anything, so, no he couldn't just run while holding Fyrus' chain, but he can be seen overpowering Fyrus while still a comparative weakling to his end game self. 🙂
I don't remember the Iron Boots being magnetically attached to the floor when doing any of his strength feats.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I did read what you said and he threw him because of his sumo training coupled with his iron boots. Without either he would have failed.
The Iron Boots were only there to provide the weight needed to not be thrown. Had Kain attempted to stop the Goron, he would have failed because he doesn't weigh enough. Just because Kain is trong does not mean he can stop a large amount of mass in motion unanchored without being moved. It's basic physics. When Link lifts the Goron upwards, he doesn't need to be anchored because it's pushing down on him and he's pushing down on the ground. When he stops it from moving, he does, because the force is going to the side and Link can't exactly brace himself on air.
He can turn into mist if you want to go the bomb arrow route. That's also not going to get the job done anyways.
Then he uses the Gale Boomerang followed by several bomb arrows in quick succession. Or uses the Hawkeye to snipe Kain before he knows Link is there.
Yes, I saw Zant take out hyrule's best just like I saw Zant crush Link early on after he restored the last of the light spirits.
Yes, Hyrule's soldiers were nothing to the Twilight Beasts and Link kills them in spades. Link's superhuman.
The thing is Link needed further training and the master sword to be able to best Zant and nothing more. Like I've always said he is who he is because of the skills taught to him and because of destiny. He's not some physical freak who sets himself above everyone else in his world.
Link has the Triforce of Courage, just like Ganondorf has the Triforce of Power and Zelda has the Triforce of Wisdom. So yes, he is sort of superhuman. He's a reincarnation of previous heroes, and he gets certain benefits.
Originally posted by BloodRainhave done before, will link you again.
Edited post ^ Mind sending the link to this feat?So you know its twice his height then?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to the boots. It's not a strength feat if you need the boots to do so. Swordlocking Ganondorf also doesn't show him to be insanely strong.He didn't stop Ganon Midna did. Midna states I will stop him and you bite him when he's on the ground.
Link was taught the necessary skills to do what he did while the mayor previously did with the iron boots. Link needed the necessary skills to defeat his opponents he didn't overpower his enemies with speed or power. He also had better gear such as the master sword but still needed the proper skills and training.
You need super strength to do what he does, you also need ot be anchored, that's physics. Kain couldn't have doen what Link did, even /with/ the iron boots.
Link throws giant Gorons like ragdolls, you cannot do that without strength, period. Midna didn't stop Ganon, she flipped him, Link was the stopping power, he was the only one touching the ground. Stopping Ganon /does/ make him insanely strong.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
The Red Faction Sledge Hammer could do all of the Megaton Hammer's "feats" and its wielded by ordinary humans. TheSpoiler:Quit pulling this ridiculous math outta your ass.
Megaton Hammer is a legendary weapon that was used against Volvagia. Link couldn't even hurt the dragon with his "uber" Master Sword without the hammer.
Stop bringing unrelated stuff into this. That's Red Faction's problem, not Zelda's.
Spoiler:. Common sense.
The floating castle wasn't an act of TK at all
Magic and TK are basically the same thing.
I don't remember the Iron Boots being magnetically attached to the floor when doing any of his strength feats.
Just the ones in Twilight Princess. Fyrus' floor was magnetic, as was Dangoro's.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteAre you kidding? The mayor taught Link to do what he did in like one training session.
have done before, will link you again.mariofacepalm
You need super strength to do what he does, you also need ot be anchored, that's physics. Kain couldn't have doen what Link did, even /with/ the iron boots.
Link throws giant Gorons like ragdolls, you cannot do that without strength, period. Midna didn't stop Ganon, she flipped him, Link was the stopping power, he was the only one touching the ground. Stopping Ganon /does/ make him insanely strong.
The only reason Link had a clue as how to stop the Gorons was because someone gave him the iron boots and showed him how to sumo wrestle.
Look at how Link climbs up anything he's not insanely strong by any means and was never intended for people to blow the gameplay out of proportion in the manner you have.
I guess the mayor also had superstrength. Why didn't Link overpower anyone without the iron boots if it's all him? Laughs.
If he stopped Ganon I'd agree but Midna did and you can see her arms doing all the work and all she required was being in the proper position.
Originally posted by BloodRainGanon and his strength and mass were pushing this way <---
Stopping Ganon was majority Midnas thing, maybe all. Like the Ggauntlet feat, its all arm/s not really in the base.
Link was pushing this way, with Midna on his back, who was not touching the ground or otherwise anchored to anythign that isn't Link, at all. --->
Link, being the only thing touching the ground, is the opnly one who can do the stopping. It's like saying a knight's charge is strong because of the knight, not the horse, wrong.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteNot when Midna's arms are coming out and holding him there. Why do you insist on using feats Link needed gear or another character for?
Ganon and his strength and mass were pushing this way <---Link was pushing this way, with Midna on his back, who was not touching the ground or otherwise anchored to anythign that isn't Link, at all. --->
Link, being the only thing touching the ground, is the opnly one who can do the stopping. It's like saying a knight's charge is strong because of the knight, not the horse, wrong.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link throws giant Gorons like ragdolls, you cannot do that without strength, period.
You say this but...
Midna didn't stop Ganon, she flipped him, Link was the stopping power, he was the only one touching the ground. Stopping Ganon /does/ make him insanely strong.
..you say this.
Wolf Link did nothing but hold Midna. Midna did the throwing. Link needed Iron Boots to do any strength feat. Either Midna did the throwing or Wolf Link had the strength. If it's the latter, TP Link has no superstrength and the Iron Boots was where all the power came from.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you kidding? The mayor taught Link to do what he did in like one training session.The only reason Link had a clue as how to stop the Gorons was because someone gave him the iron boots and showed him how to sumo wrestle.
Look at how Link climbs up anything he's not insanely strong by any means and was never intended for people to blow the gameplay out of proportion in the manner you have.
I guess the mayor also had superstrength. Why didn't Link overpower anyone without the iron boots if it's all him? Laughs.
If he stopped Ganon I'd agree but Midna did and you can see her arms doing all the work and all she required was being in the proper position.
Mayor Bo is never stated to have actually won a sumo match, only the Goron's respect. He may have super strength, as fictional characters tend to do. Like the running man who can never be beaten in a race, even on horseback. Link beat Bo in the sumo wrestles, without his iron boots, and that is how he earned them. 🙂 Link is stronger than Bo, so how strong Bo is doesn't matter. He's better at sumo wrestlign than Bo, who taught him nothing. that was a test for the iron boots. He beat Bo.
Midna wasn't anchored to anything but Link, he had to do the stopping, period.
..you say this.Wolf Link did nothing but hold Midna. Midna did the throwing. Link needed Iron Boots to do any strength feat. Either Midna did the throwing or Wolf Link had the strength. If it's the latter, TP Link has no superstrength and the Iron Boots was where all the power came from.
So, if they both do a seperate feat, only one is strong? No.
Link stopped Ganon. Midna flipped him after Link had stopped him. They're both strong. Midna also had the Triforce of Wisdom at that point.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you kidding? The mayor taught Link to do what he did in like one training session.
Point being? Link is always a ridiculously fast learner and instinctively knows how to use any tool he picks up.
The only reason Link had a clue as how to stop the Gorons was because someone gave him the iron boots and showed him how to sumo wrestle.
What does that have to do with anything? The point was that he did do it.
Look at how Link climbs up anything he's not insanely strong by any means and was never intended for people to blow the gameplay out of proportion in the manner you have.
Multiple feats and evidence disagrees with you. Link is strong.
I guess the mayor also had superstrength. Why didn't Link overpower anyone without the iron boots if it's all him? Laughs.
The Mayor never stopped a charging Goron, or one of that size. He pushed one a few feet and out of a tiny circle.
If he stopped Ganon I'd agree but Midna did and you can see her arms doing all the work and all she required was being in the proper position.
Ganon pushes down on Midna, and Midna pushes down on Link. Midna was using Link as her anchor, so he's the one that stopped Ganon. You can quite clearly see that Link reacts when Ganon moves.
Originally posted by The Scenario
Stop bringing unrelated stuff into this. That's Red Faction's problem, not Zelda's.
Spoiler:.
The Megaton Hammer is clearly not a normal hammer
Magic and TK are basically the same thing.
Spoiler:
The floating castle is not TK
Just the ones in Twilight Princess. Fyrus' floor was magnetic, as was Dangoro's.
In other words, Link would be crushed without Iron Boots. More proof that he is nowhere on the strength of
Spoiler:.
the golden gauntlets
Originally posted by BloodRainThat is literally physicly impossible, she wasn't touching the ground. Period. she could not have been the stopping power in this scenario. FOR EXAMPLE:
Ok nothing was an exaggeration, yes the majority could defiantly come from Midna.
If you're drivign a car, and hit the brakes, the power stopping you does not belong to you, you are not even touching the road.