LOK3 Defiance vs. Twilight Princess

Originally posted by quanchi112
1.That's never been proven and this is tp Link so take other Link feats outside of this thread.

The Link doesn't matter; that is Ganondorf's feat. And Ganondorf is always the same.

2.I go by how the characters are represented whereas you don't. You want to even bring up other feats and I bet take them out o fcontext. I wish I played ww because I guarantee you are.

Feats = portrayal. He didn't take it out of context. Ganondorf does jump 30+ feet when shot with a light arrow from behind.

3.He's not portrayed as superhuman fast. He's a hero of destiny who needs gear and skills to beat the game. Other heroes are genetic freaks or faster or stronger than Link has been portrayed.

Feats = portrayal. He still has skills and gear, so you've said nothing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The hero points it out he needs skills to achieve his destriny when you train with him. To deny this is to be a fanboy.

We don't. It's just irrelevant that he needs to be taught.

My point is he is taught skills throughout the game other characters can do which doesn't make him superhuman just well trained.

It makes him a well trained superhylian. One of his teachers is a living skeleton and former hero.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1.That's never been proven and this is tp Link so take other Link feats outside of this thread.

2.I go by how the characters are represented whereas you don't. You want to even bring up other feats and I bet take them out o fcontext. I wish I played ww because I guarantee you are.

3.He's not portrayed as superhuman fast. He's a hero of destiny who needs gear and skills to beat the game. Other heroes are genetic freaks or faster or stronger than Link has been portrayed.

Did you just say it being the same Ganon has never been proven?

GTFO of my game vs. noob.

I just mentioned a TP Link. Are you illiterate?

2. He has been represented to throw a massive Goron into lava, be shot from a cannon to the ground from the sky, and play tennis with lightning. Yeah, I'm the one going by how the characters are represented.So you have not played WW, but guarantee I am taking them out of context? Odd accusation, from a noob who knows not the first thing about Zelda, compared to me, who I daresay is an authority on the subject. 131

3. Only he kind of is. Needs gear nd skills? Weird, so does Kratos. So you cannot be superhuman and skilled at the same time?

Originally posted by The Scenario
The Link doesn't matter; that is Ganondorf's feat. And Ganondorf is always the same.

Feats = portrayal. He didn't take it out of context. Ganondorf does jump 30+ feet when shot with a light arrow from behind.

Feats = portrayal. He still has skills and gear, so you've said nothing.

This proves what?

Yes, but these skills and gear don't make him really quick, fast, or strong.

Originally posted by The Scenario
We don't. It's just irrelevant that he needs to be taught.

It makes him a well trained superhylian. One of his teachers is a living skeleton and former hero.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The hero points it out he needs skills to achieve his destriny when you train with him. To deny this is to be a fanboy.

Actually, he points out that he disgraces the tunic because he is a failure of a swordsman when compared to previous hero incarnations. But, once again, these conversations are entirely optional, and the only one you technically have to get is the first.

Link is a mortal blessed by Gods and usually wielding the power of one.

Yeah, normal guy.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. What? 😐

Did you just say it being the same Ganon has never been proven?

GTFO of my game vs. noob.

I just mentioned a TP Link. Are you illiterate?

2. He has been represented to throw a massive Goron into lava, be shot from a cannon to the ground from the sky, and play tennis with lightning. Yeah, I'm the one going by how the characters are represented.So you have not played WW, but guarantee I am taking them out of context? Odd accusation, from a noob who knows not the first thing about Zelda, compared to me, who I daresay is an authority on the subject. 131

3. Only he kind of is. Needs gear nd skills? Weird, so does Kratos. So you cannot be superhuman and skilled at the same time?

A bit touchy are we? You previously mentioned a ww feat so please keep the feats outside of this game outside of this thread, noob.

3.He needed iron boots to throw a goron in lava and Bo previously bested a goron in a matchup so please I am not impressed at all considering how Bo is portrayed. You mean when he swats back Zelda's lighting at him you think the lightning is portrayed as quickly as real lightning?
😂 😂

The feats from tpp which have been taken out of context lead me to believe you would do the same for ww which is irrelevant anyways. It doesn't matter here so why bring it up?

3.Kratos is portrayed as really strong unlike Link. I get that from the gow universe but I swear if I had a game creator telling you that worked on zelda otherwise you'd still deny it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nope. Sorry, but wrong unless proven otherwise there is no way you are using other feats for another Link. this Link didn't demonstrate this kind of feats anyways so it's a no go either way.

ZELDA SHOT GANONDORF FROM BEHIND. GANONDORF DODGED VIA 40 FOOT JUMP. LINK WAS NOT EVEN INVOLVED IN THIS EXCHANGE.

This proves what?

It prove Ganondorf is fast, so Link, who fights him, is also fast.

Yes, but these skills and gear don't make him really quick, fast, or strong.

The fact is these feats or so don't separate him from everyone else in the game. He wasn't some genetic freak he learned the same skills the previous hero learned on his own.

The previous hero was just as superhylian as he was (Hero's Shade = OoT Link.) Both had the Triforce of Courage and blessing of the goddesses.

They don't need to because he already is fast and strong.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Actually, he points out that he disgraces the tunic because he is a failure of a swordsman when compared to previous hero incarnations. But, once again, these conversations are entirely optional, and the only one you technically have to get is the first.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Link is a mortal blessed by Gods and usually wielding the power of one.

Yeah, normal guy.

You keep ignoring all the shit Link does which proves he's superhuman, you don't think having a piece of the most powerful relic in the Zelda universe gives him any powers? Lol.

Originally posted by The Scenario
[b]ZELDA SHOT GANONDORF FROM BEHIND. GANONDORF DODGED VIA 40 FOOT JUMP. LINK WAS NOT EVEN INVOLVED IN THIS EXCHANGE.

It prove Ganondorf is fast, so Link, who fights him, is also fast.

The previous hero was just as superhylian as he was (Hero's Shade = OoT Link.) Both had the Triforce of Courage and blessing of the goddesses.

They don't need to because he already is fast and strong. [/B]

False. I don't buy any of it. Bu tplease no more other game references now I don't allow any other feats so let's keep this to a tp debate only.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You keep ignoring all the shit Link does which proves he's superhuman, you don't think having a piece of the most powerful relic in the Zelda universe gives him any powers? Lol.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
It hasn't. You can call me a noob if you want many fans disagree on this. I never claimed to play all of the zelda games but I've asked zelda fans who have and they have all said separate universes.

Ganondorf is always the same person. This is a known fact.

A bit touchy are we? You previously mentioned a ww feat so please keep the feats outside of this game outside of this thread, noob.

Ganondorf is always the same person and his feats carry over.

3.He needed iron boots to throw a goron in lava and Bo previously bested a goron in a matchup so please I am not impressed at all considering how Bo is portrayed. You mean when he swats back Zelda's lighting at him you think the lightning is portrayed as quickly as real lightning?
😂 😂

We've discussed this, and you still don't have a leg to stand on. Bo did not toss a Goron into lava, and the Goron Link tossed was much bigger an armored. How Bo is portrayed is irrelevant, even though he is also extremely strong.

It's lightning.

The feats from tpp which have been taken out of context lead me to believe you would do the same for ww which is irrelevant anyways. It doesn't matter here so why bring it up?

No feat is out of context. WW is still relevant due to Ganondorf.

3.Kratos is portrayed as really strong unlike Link. I get that from the gow universe but I swear if I had a game creator telling you that worked on zelda otherwise you'd still deny it.

Just wrong. Link is portrayed as extremely strong.

If he superhumanly fast he'd have taken out a lot more than one and most of this was after the initial shock of him surviving the sword and breaking free.

You mean, how Ganon, shocked at not beign dead, having somehow gained the power of a God, wasn't exactly on the top of his game?

Originally posted by quanchi112
It hasn't. You can call me a noob if you want many fans disagree on this. I never claimed to play all of the zelda games but I've asked zelda fans who have and they have all said separate universes.

A bit touchy are we? You previously mentioned a ww feat so please keep the feats outside of this game outside of this thread, noob.

3.He needed iron boots to throw a goron in lava and Bo previously bested a goron in a matchup so please I am not impressed at all considering how Bo is portrayed. You mean when he swats back Zelda's lighting at him you think the lightning is portrayed as quickly as real lightning?
😂 😂

The feats from tpp which have been taken out of context lead me to believe you would do the same for ww which is irrelevant anyways. It doesn't matter here so why bring it up?

3.Kratos is portrayed as really strong unlike Link. I get that from the gow universe but I swear if I had a game creator telling you that worked on zelda otherwise you'd still deny it.

2. Cause what I said before completely invalidates the TP feat right?

3. Wear some boots that weigh 500 pounds each or so. Now try to stop a car, nay, a charging bull. See how successful you are. The boots do not make him stronger. Obviously, Bo is just very strong. 🙂 Also, Bo never fought Daigoron or whatever his name was, you know, the thirty foot tall solid stone Goron with steel armor covering it? Electricity is electricity, gameplay mechanics are gameplay mechanics.

4. I have taken nothing out of context. You just lack the intellect to consider that Link may be stronger than you previously thought.

5. Link has lifted and thrown a giant Goron, tripped an even larger Goron, and has been shot from a cannon to the ground. But yeah, I should just ignore those feats because you say so, right?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I saw him in the game he was not really portrayed as lightning quick by any means in this game. he seemed like a great swordsman but other than that was defeated by the mages after just taking one of them out. If he superhumanly fast he'd have taken out a lot more than one and most of this was after the initial shock of him surviving the sword and breaking free.

He covered a lot of distance quickly when he killed that Sage, and it was with a sword in the chest. Had the sword not been there, they all would have died.

Ganondorf is pretty fast in all the games.

False. I don't buy any of it. Bu tplease no more other game references now I don't allow any other feats so let's keep this to a tp debate only.

Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it false.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Ganondorf is always the same person. This is a known fact.

Ganondorf is always the same person and his feats carry over.

We've discussed this, and you still don't have a leg to stand on. Bo did not toss a Goron into lava, and the Goron Link tossed was much bigger an armored. How Bo is portrayed is irrelevant, even though he is also extremely strong.

It's lightning.

No feat is out of context. WW is still relevant due to Ganondorf.

Just wrong. Link is portrayed as extremely strong.

Don't care this is a different Link so his feats don't carry over.

Bo out wrestled a goron just like Link and the only reason Link ever threw one is they rolled at him so with the evidence at hand I say Bo could do the same thing with the same gear.

So now lighning is always the same speed? Nope, sorry in the game it's not at all fast and is much slower than zant's magic shots at you and is just another example of zelda fans reaching.

Not relevant to tp Link.

No, Kratos is Link can barely lift the ball and chain.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You mean, how Ganon, shocked at not beign dead, having somehow gained the power of a God, wasn't exactly on the top of his game?

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Timelines you noob. In OoT the timeline splits (Though even that is not really confirmed), but it is the same Ganon, each game.

2. Cause what I said before completely invalidates the TP feat right?

3. Wear some boots that weigh 500 pounds each or so. Now try to stop a car, nay, a charging bull. See how successful you are. The boots do not make him stronger. Obviously, Bo is just very strong. 🙂 Also, Bo never fought Daigoron or whatever his name was, you know, the thirty foot tall solid stone Goron with steel armor covering it? Electricity is electricity, gameplay mechanics are gameplay mechanics.

4. I have taken nothing out of context. You just lack the intellect to consider that Link may be stronger than you previously thought.

5. Link has lifted and thrown a giant Goron, tripped an even larger Goron, and has been shot from a cannon to the ground. But yeah, I should just ignore those feats because you say so, right?

2.Yep.

3.This is reality while zelda isn't so quit trying to make real world comparisons which also show how terrible the creators were and how they didn't really make the scene believable with the boots.

4.Look at how he carries the ball and chain. yeah, he's a real powerhouse.

5.So could Bo if the rolled.

Originally posted by The Scenario
He covered a lot of distance quickly when he killed that Sage, and it was with a sword in the chest. Had the sword not been there, they all would have died.

Ganondorf is pretty fast in all the games.

Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it false.

This is just tp Link and the feats you want to talk about are being taken out of context.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1.Still playing it and when a timeline splits it's an alternate reality you noob. From the time that timeline differs it's an alternate reality.

2.Yep.

3.This is reality while zelda isn't so quit trying to make real world comparisons which also show how terrible the creators were and how they didn't really make the scene believable with the boots.

4.Look at how he carries the ball and chain. yeah, he's a real powerhouse.

5.So could Bo if the rolled.

2. No, it doesn't, that would be an ad hominem fallacy I believe. How does mentioning WW Link invalidate a feat from TP Link? Education, get one.

3. "Hi I'm Quanchi I am going to ignore the feats of Link and blame it on a blunder of the creators." Link in TP is consistently strong. Also, like how you ignored the first sentence of that segment, ignoring points does not make you less wrong or foolish.

4. I agree. 🙂 Cause I mean... Kratos taking time to open a gate obviously discredits all of his strength feats.

5. Read above. Also, I could show you Thanos getting arrested by the cops or being cut by Wolverine (While he had the Power Gem if I recall right), yet those would not count, right? Low, inconsistent showings are not the rule.