Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeNo, it just shows how he's not really a strong guy.
Excuses? Or, you know, game mechanics.
Originally posted by NemeBro1.You don't need to insult me personally just because we disagree it's a sign of insecurity. Nope, sorry but unless Dorf demonstrates the same tactics or the feats here Link didn't prove anything in regards to here.
1. You're not particularly bright, are you? If TP Link can fight with the same guy who performed said feat in a weaker incarnation, the feat is valid.2. Yes, he did deflect lightning attacks by himself. Played tennis with them in TP. Illiterate people should not post on the internet.
3. Kratos is not very strong hence doors. Also, he wields it easily enough.
4. Prove Link is weak. 🙂 I won't ask you to prove Kratos is strong, because I know he is, because he has feats to prove it. Like Link, who in many games has consistent feats of strength, though admittedly he does not even rival Kratos in that regard. Though no one in LoK does either, so it is a moot point.
5. Hasn't Hyperion been slashed at by Wolverine, with them only scraping across his skin? So is Hyperion more durable than Thanos with the Power Gem?
You focus only on the rare inconsistencies, I focus on Link's consistent feats of strength, which increase in each game. He went from stopping bull-size goats to wrestling gorons, to stopping a giant rolling goron (Which is harding than just lifting it, Jesus Christ how did no one mention this?), lifting it, and then throwing it. He then tripped up an even larger Goron later in the stage, and has hit the ground from being shoot from a cannon in the sky. Link is easily superhuman.
Not allowed.
2.Those bolts are slow as molasses and Link can't even get out of the way from a rolling goron yet he has lightning like reflexes. This is just getting hysterial here.
3.Kratos lifts the massive structures and they seem to weigh a lot more than the same ball and chain a boss wielded quite easily.
4.Ball and chain feat, needs boots to take on Gorons which Bo already did himself, gets tossed around by Yeto, has to really get ready to stop a goat.
😂
5.Different writer and power levels and feats vary from writer to writer, sport. Comics are way too complicated for you if you can't figure out the intentions from game to game.
He doesn't have any strength feats in any of the games I have played it's just exaggerations by fanboys such as yourself and according to you Bo is super strong and every one else in zelda. Laughs.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kratos is portrayed as strong and doesn't need any gear to achieve his strength feats whereas Link does. The mere fact Link struggles to lift up a weapon he uses whereas the enemy uses it when one arm shows how weak he is.
Kratos doesn't always obey physics. Link does, and is stronger because of it. Now stop bringing up Kratos, he's not even in this thread.
Di dyou ever see him use the weapon?
Yes, he weilds it easier than the boss he took it from.
Nope, sorry it isn't, No more other zelda game references it's not allowed. 🙂
Ganondorf was actually than in TP there. Regardless, the speed he shows while dead is better than what Kain has shown.
False, the guy wasn't quick at all in tp and was shown up every time he showed up in the game. He was an overconfident moron imo. Kain is faster, stronger, etc. than ganondorf.
He was quicker and stronger than Kain while he had a sword in the chest, from what I've seen. Ganondorf can teleport, and that faster that Kain, too. If you disagree, post evidence.
You have unsupported speculation and Bo did beat a Goron and taught Link how to do the same in the game. 🙂
It's quite simple:
Bo's feat- Wrestled a single random Goron.
Link's feat- Defeated Bo, defeated a Goron Chief (stronger and more skilled than a random Goron), stopped several Gorons, picked up and threw several Gorons, stopped a massive armored Goron, threw said massive armored Goron, and just being super hylian.
Your pathetic Bo excuse does not, and never did, hold water. Link is clearly portrayed as far superior to Bo in terms of strength, so claiming that Bo could do anything Link has done is pure folly.
So?
The other games do not count and since the timelines split alternate realities are formed outside the main reality so it's a no go. Regardless, it cannot be used.
The boss wields it with one arm so you are lying. Link can barely move when he wields it and it shows off he's not even as strong as the boss just like he is portrayed as not strong throughout the entire game.
He used the power to resist it and in the end of the game that power failed him. I guess even despite having an outside power source back him you claim he was still exhausted which makes the power which brought him back look anything but impressive.
That does matter. You don't even know what an alternate reality really is and I just told you and it still won't matter because zelda must win iyo so the facts don't really matter here.
Bo beat a goron and he isn't superhylian and neither is Link. I mean come on here you are just making things up again.
If you call him barely able to move while using both hands to wield it doing easily then I suggest you watch the boss use it because he doesn't need to use all that strength and doesn't lack lateral movement like Link does when he wields it. I am right.
Bo is the one who taught Link how to pull it off. I mean Link couldn't have done it without Bo's training in the game and without the boots he gave him so again the game backs me up.
I know what happened but according to you even with the backing of the power here he still got winded which makes me think less of the power backing him. Nicely done.
Good and I can keep this up forever and a day. Link isn't portrayed as strong in the game or superhylian he's just the hero who is destined to pull this out and he gets the training and gear to achieve his destiny.
What feats have I taken away from Link unfairly?
Excuses the boss wielded it just fine with one arm because he was stronger than Link. [/B][/QUOTE]
No idea what happened there.
The other games do not count and since the timelines split alternate realities are formed outside the main reality so it's a no go. Regardless, it cannot be used.
Not alternate realities. It's the same Ganon.
The boss wields it with one arm so you are lying. Link can barely move when he wields it and it shows off he's not even as strong as the boss just like he is portrayed as not strong throughout the entire game.
The boss can barely move, and weilds it slower than Link does, so you're the one who's lying. Link is consistently portrayed as superhylian. You are ignoring facts.
He used the power to resist it and in the end of the game that power failed him. I guess even despite having an outside power source back him you claim he was still exhausted which makes the power which brought him back look anything but impressive.
I've explained this to you five times. The Master Sword was designed to counter the Triforce, and that is why it failed. This is basic Zelda lore, here, try to understand it. Further, you are still ignoring facts. Ganondorf died because he didn't have the Triforce of Power. Then, via Diablus Ex Machina (and the fact that the Triforce transcends time), Ganondorf suddenly got some power he didn't know how to use properly. And again, [b]SWORD. THROUGH. THE. HEART.[B] Kain could not have done that, period.
That does matter. You don't even know what an alternate reality really is and I just told you and it still won't matter because zelda must win iyo so the facts don't really matter here.
The word you are looking for is parallel. Meaning the timelines were exactly the same except for one crucial detail. Ganondorf was the exact same person, because the detail didn't change him.
Bo beat a goron and he isn't superhylian and neither is Link. I mean come on here you are just making things up again.
Circular logic. You're letting your preconceived ideas get in the way of the evidence. Just look at the mountain of evidence and remove the blindfold you're wearing.
If you call him barely able to move while using both hands to wield it doing easily then I suggest you watch the boss use it because he doesn't need to use all that strength and doesn't lack lateral movement like Link does when he wields it. I am right.
Boss cannot move. Boss weilds it slower than Link. Boss dies like a wuss. It's obvious you didn't actually watch the fight, since Link uses it much easier.
Bo is the one who taught Link how to pull it off. I mean Link couldn't have done it without Bo's training in the game and without the boots he gave him so again the game backs me up.
Link surpassed Bo. Do you honestly think a student can't become better than a master? Link's feats blow Bo out of the water.
I know what happened but according to you even with the backing of the power here he still got winded which makes me think less of the power backing him. Nicely done.
I can't believe you still don't understand this. Ganondorf was dead. Dead people do not leap twenty feet and disintegrate peope with a touch. The Triforce of Power was still unfamiliar to him at the time, and he wasn't even using the majority of it. You can clearly see later in the game that he does, and could revive himself from complete bodily destruction. Ganondorf lost because he was inexperienced with his new power and had A SWORD IN HIS HEART.
Good and I can keep this up forever and a day. Link isn't portrayed as strong in the game or superhylian he's just the hero who is destined to pull this out and he gets the training and gear to achieve his destiny.
Didn't you give up before? This thread died a little bit after my bout with BT, and was only revived when he finally responded. You did nothing.
Further, you're really not getting what Hero of Destiny means.
What feats have I taken away from Link unfairly?
Pretty much all of them.
Excuses the boss wielded it just fine with one arm because he was stronger than Link.
Watch the video. Just accept that you were wrong.
The only time I saw him teleport behind was when we uses the swords and then;
@Bloodrain- Try this one:
4:00, Link reacts before we even see Ganondorf.
Originally posted by The Scenario
And again, [b]SWORD. THROUGH. THE. HEART.[B] Kain could not have done that, period.
If your refering to the sage thing where he punches one of them then yes, kain could do this easier only Kain is fast enough to kill them all in under a minute unlike Ganondorf who stands around to get sealed away in the mirror. Although tbh, Kain could do it without a heart.
And in that video Link turns around as we hear footsteps on the ground. Its not a fast teleport/attack that any of the Lok teleporters would attempt, this does not make up for the lack of reaction feats.
Originally posted by Burning thought
If your refering to the sage thing where he punches one of them then yes, kain could do this easier only Kain is fast enough to kill them all in under a minute unlike Ganondorf who stands around to get sealed away in the mirror. Although tbh, Kain could do it without a heart.
Prove this. Has Kain done something similar? Stabbing with a magical sword, specifically? As I recall, last time Kain got hit with a sword he was knocked out for 200 years.
And in that video Link turns around as we hear footsteps on the ground. Its not a fast teleport/attack that any of the Lok teleporters would attempt, this does not make up for the lack of reaction feats.
Then Link would hear them teleport, obviously.
By the time Link turns around Ganondorf is about to take his second step, and an attack is faster then one normal step. And from this and the Zant on it seems Link reacts to them solely on sound.. (Ganondorf steps and Zants reappear sound.)
Edit- Why is it insisted that an electric ball like that and GoW3 Zeus' one are at lightning speed when there's a difference between these lightning balls and actual lightning bolts..
Originally posted by The Scenario
Prove this. Has Kain done something similar? Stabbing with a magical sword, specifically? As I recall, last time Kain got hit with a sword he was knocked out for 200 years.Then Link would hear them teleport, obviously.
Kains had his heart ripped out and survived, getting up not long after to destroy demons. BO2 Kain was defeated by the Sarafan lord, although his physical wounds were nothing and the blade did not slice him through something did indeed knock him out, the sages sword however does not seem to be much more than an ordinairy blade wheras the Hyldens sword glows with magic energy and was used not long before to destroy a vampire with a beam of light. Glyph magic that the hylden lord uses was especially effective against vampires iirc.
hear them teleport? teleports themselves do not necesserily make a sound and in the time it takes Link to look round his head would be dropping from his shoulders...
Originally posted by BloodRain
By the time Link turns around Ganondorf is about to take his second step, and an attack is faster then one normal step. And from this and the Zant on it seems Link reacts to them solely on sound. (Ganondorf steps and Zants reappear sound.)
Ganondorf was pretty quiet, while the LoK teleports I've seen are pretty noisy. Link hears them before they begin the attack.
Originally posted by quanchi1121. You should have put either a semicolon or a period before "it's." It is the same Ganon, the same feat applies. GET OUT. What is not allowed?
1.You don't need to insult me personally just because we disagree it's a sign of insecurity. Nope, sorry but unless Dorf demonstrates the same tactics or the feats here Link didn't prove anything in regards to here.Not allowed.
2.Those bolts are slow as molasses and Link can't even get out of the way from a rolling goron yet he has lightning like reflexes. This is just getting hysterial here.
3.Kratos lifts the massive structures and they seem to weigh a lot more than the same ball and chain a boss wielded quite easily.
4.Ball and chain feat, needs boots to take on Gorons which Bo already did himself, gets tossed around by Yeto, has to really get ready to stop a goat.
😂
5.Different writer and power levels and feats vary from writer to writer, sport. Comics are way too complicated for you if you can't figure out the intentions from game to game.
He doesn't have any strength feats in any of the games I have played it's just exaggerations by fanboys such as yourself and according to you Bo is super strong and every one else in zelda. Laughs.
2. Ah the value of gameplay mechanics. Electricity does not move at different speeds. He does not get the gameplay choice of moving, he kinda just stands there to stop it noob. Also, *hysterical.
3. The same one Link tosses pretty easily? Agreed. Kinda like the same giant Goron Link easily threw.
4. The effortless Ball and Chain feat? Bo is obviously just really strong, and the boots do not make him stronger. A heavier object in motion will always move the lighter one. Said goat was the size of a bull, and that is literally his first feat, invalidated by later ones.
5. You read Marvel sir, aka juvenile trite. It is certainly not complicated. I understand the ramifications of the multiple portrayals a character has under a different writer, but low feats are low feats.
Lifts a massive pillar in OoT with the help of the gauntlets, can push massive stone blocks without the gauntets in the same game, in TP he can stop a rolling, massive goron and throw it... Yeah no strength feats.
hear them teleport? teleports themselves do not necesserily make a sound and in the time it takes Link to look round his head would be dropping from his shoulders...Yeah.. They're gonna get the drop on a guy who can swat electricity out of the air, and somehow damage him, despite his ability to withstand over 4 GJ of force... No. Lol.
Originally posted by The Scenario
Ganondorf was pretty quiet, while the LoK teleports I've seen are pretty noisy. Link hears them before they begin the attack.
Those steps were not.
That makes three instances where Link has showed that a teleport attack from the likes of the LoK will work.
Reacting after a step is heard (however long it takes her to do a step), after a teleport sound is heard (almost a second after) and a human level reaction to a swift in-sight movement < a teleport attack in terms of speed.
He can do none of those things in canon, your refering to little bolts of energy and your own fanon I take it? go and get some real feats of this happening. And assuming your fanon was canon, the guy still is not all knowing and does not have precog so he can be surprised and destroyed via teleportation so its irrelevant what he can reac to face to fact, a teleport does not have to be face to face.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtDone in OoT, TP, aLttP, and more I am probably forgetting. There is consistency.
He can do none of those things in canon, your refering to little bolts of energy and your own fanon I take it? go and get some real feats of this happening. And assuming your fanon was canon, the guy still is not all knowing and does not have precog so he can be surprised and destroyed via teleportation so its irrelevant what he can reac to face to fact, a teleport does not have to be face to face.
You do realising how fast electricity is right? Fast enough for Kain's attacks to be in practical stand-still, he will have reacted before Kain thinks to swing his sword.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Done in OoT, TP, aLttP, and more I am probably forgetting. There is consistency.You do realising how fast electricity is right? Fast enough for Kain's attacks to be in practical stand-still, he will have reacted before Kain thinks to swing his sword.
I asked you before, show it.
I think your probably trying to claim every little energy bolt Link can deflect in gameplay is the speed of natural lightning....I think youve done this before. And Link wont be percieving Kains attacks or anyone elses if they teleport behind him, even if he was seeing the world in slow motion and you had proof to back this up he would not gain further precog or perception to Kain or Janos slicing his head from his shoulders. Chances are he will see the blade slicing slowly through his throat and his soul being reaved.