LOK3 Defiance vs. Twilight Princess

Started by Phantom Miria85 pages

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Pure energy? Pure what energy? There are several different types of energy. Please clarify.

Seriously, Link has over 9000 ways to kill Kain.

And you just gave the world over 9000 reasons to find you ridiculous.

Originally posted by Phantom Miria
[b]And you just gave the world over 9000 reasons to find you ridiculous. [/B]

Quit trolling or gtfo.

Says the baiter. Over 9000 ways? Really? You can genuinely say you did not intend to stern things up between you and Burning Thought by using such a ridiculously overestimated number?

I am just trying to balance things out. You act ridiculous towards Burning Thought, and I even the scale.

Don't be ridiculous. You know he's using a meme as a way of saying "a lot".

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
In gameplay, you know, when the player has to be able to react to them. an entirely different kettle of fish.

Also, you seem to be ignoring that it is not a "maybe". Zant did teleport behind Link, who did beat him. Ganon did, and Link did turn around before we even saw him, in a seperate cutscene, later on, whcih overrides your earlier ones anyway.

Also, deflects lightning. He literally swats it whiel it's travelling through the air. Electricity is fast shit.

And in cutscenes, the thing that's taken into account over gameplay. It is a maybe as there is no set teleport behind Link only random appear around Link, and if it so happens that he does get behind there's still the distance, sound and poor attack that lowers this teleport behind him business. And no, those three with Zant are not overridden as the scene with Ganondorf is nothing above them. Link turns around after footsteps are heard. That's nothing above what a normal human can do, also him reacting after the steps backs up the way Link reacts to Zant in gameplay; reacting on sound not presence. And speed wise LoK teleport is faster from appear to strike and also quieter.

Lightning bolt =/= electric orb. Eg Cole's Shock Grenades. Besides that there's the electricity sparking around the orb faster then the orb itself was moving, and an unusually slow attack that's supposed to be lightning fast when the player has reacted to faster things especially in the final battles where its supposed to be hard. In fact there's nothing to say its actually supposed to be fast besides 'its lightning so it has to be'.

Note that Link has 1- Never showed reactions at that level before, most of the time its barely above average and 2- From the speed of lightning and the distance between them both Link and Zelda would of have to be moving faster then lightning in order to counter and pull back consecutively. Unless you want to claim that Zelda can move near 100,000m/s..

Well apparently Zelda's possessed, Ganon enhanced body can take the forces necessary to deflect lightning but i seriously doubt Zelda in and of herself can do it. Heck she can barely aim arrows.

Also I will admit that playing the Wii version of Twilight Princess, the ball lightning even at it's low speed is sometimes hard to hit because of the inaccuracy of the wii controls. This was probably taken into account for the gameplay itself.

The arrows that you cut down in the air are definitely faster but like Scream said, they can't just have lightning up and be uber fast in gameplay or you'd never be able to beat the game.

There's nothing to say that he makes her physically faster. Nor is there anything to say that Zelda, Ganon or Link can react to and move faster then lightning.

I never said it should be at real life speed, just not at Goron rolling speed.. Supposed to be the final battles, its meant to be harder then normal. I take it that you're pro lightning speed? Reason why you're accepting that it is moving at the speed of lightning?

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Pure energy? Pure what energy? There are several different types of energy. Please clarify.

Seriously, Link has over 9000 ways to kill Kain.

I cant clarify if the game does not clarify iirc, its just energy.

Link could not kill many in LoK so he would be best just to fight the humans and lesser vampires, let alone Kain himself. Links too slow and weak. But anyway, Link is irrelevant because according to the evidence hes assinated by a teleporter, Zants irrelevant because apprently hes going to try and use a slow illussion power to confuse some vamps only to get peppered with arrows. That only leaves Ganon alive whos worth noting of the main characters.

Here's where BT ignorees evidence in favour of his own bias delusions. an illusion? The shit Zant created was /real/. He just submerges all of the vampires in water, bam, they're dead, which is moot, because Link could solo the lot of them anyway. 😐 Hell, the most physicly powerful and durable of them was impaled by normal people. haermm

Pokeverse > LoKverse

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Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Here's where BT ignorees evidence in favour of his own bias delusions.

You do this a lot, claim something thats far more relevent to yourself. Is this a tactic to try and toss this silly claim in before its used on you or something?

Link could not solo more than a few vampires, perhaps a few humans.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Pokeverse > LoKverse

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Quite possibly because iirc it actually has some powerful entities unlike LoZ.....not that your statement is relevent to this thread 😬

So what does Link have to do for you to accept his feats? Wrestle the Hulk to the ground and solo hundreds of bovine robots while sipping tea from a cup that says "BT is cool?"

Originally posted by Burning thought
You do this a lot, claim something thats far more relevent to yourself

How is that relevant? More relevant to oneself does not make it less relevant to you. You do this a lot. Distracting, divinding attention from the point at hand.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
So what does Link have to do for you to accept his feats? Wrestle the Hulk to the ground and solo hundreds of bovine robots while sipping tea from a cup that says "BT is cool?"

Have legitimate non fanon feats would be fine.

Then start accepting. We didn't make the videos or the games, BT. These feats are not "fanon."

K, good, we have tons of those. For example throwing Dangoro, being fired out of cannons, stopping Ganon's beast form and human form respectively, handling Zant's quick and chaotic teleportation, so on and so forth.

You know, things that would allow Link to solo every vampire in LoK.

At the very least you should be accepting Link as an equal in strength to Kain. Kain's strength comes from pushing big blocks of stone, right? Link does that too. In just about every game.

Link has feats that make him far and away physicly superior to Kain in every category, but this is just what we can expect from BT.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Then start accepting. We didn't make the videos or the games, BT. These feats are not "fanon."

The daft aircraft carrier throwing and lightning reactions are indeed all canon, however this:

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
At the very least you should be accepting Link as an equal in strength to Kain. Kain's strength comes from pushing big blocks of stone, right? Link does that too. In just about every game.

May be acceptable because the argument is better than others youve had and is consistent if hes done it in every game.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
K, good, we have tons of those. For example throwing Dangoro, being fired out of cannons, stopping Ganon's beast form and human form respectively, handling Zant's quick and chaotic teleportation, so on and so forth.

You know, things that would allow Link to solo every vampire in LoK.

Not impressive, how does being fired out of the cannon help him? sounds like toonforce, not impressive, hes not handled it in the same way he will face against teleporters in this match and his reactions as the evidence points out are slow.

lol none of those things would allow that.

Yeah, slow enough to play catch with Ganondorf and his lightning bolts. haermm

Wanna talk consistency, Link handles electricity in more games than Kain shows any incling of strength above human.