Originally posted by Burning thought
The daft aircraft carrier throwing and lightning reactions are indeed all canon, however this:May be acceptable because the argument is better than others youve had and is consistent if hes done it in every game.
I can't believe you just said that. Everyone else saw that, right?
And it can be consistent without being in every game, dude. Link is different in most games, you know this.
Wups lol, I meant non canon 😛
I do know it, that does not eliminate the fact that the heroes are all similiar and the developers have decided that these characters do similiar things with said blocks. Relevence.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yeah, slow enough to play catch with Ganondorf and his little lightning orbs that float slowly along. haermm
Corrected
so you're going to argue:
Zeus, who is the soel reason for lightning existing in his own verse, shoots inferior lightning to the kind that passively exists because he does?
And that Ganon, who can destroy islands, freeze over cities, stop the sun from rising, merge entire dimensions, (many of these without even being anywhere near his peak in power), and has proven to shoost bolts chooses to make them slower when Link confronts him? We see him shoost unmistakable bolts in aLttP especially. Lightning shaped projectiles would look kinda.. y;'know, dumb in a 3d game, however.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
chooses to make them slower when Link confronts him? We see him shoost unmistakable bolts in aLttP especially.
He does not choose to make them slower, he simply cannot fire fast ones otherwise he would have killed link before now.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Welp, sorry BT, but you admitted it's canon. And events of the past are obviously not overridden by new events. Otherwise Link would be strong, amirite?
Typo 😉 well that depends, a retcon can happen. When consistency is concerned developer decisions are relevent throughout the games time period. Thats why some animations like the context sensitive ones in GoW 3 that make him seem weaker cannotbe ignored, its the same with consistent things in LoZ, if Link is consistently animated to use a two hander with two hands rather than in one hand like it would be assumed he could by you, or to struggle and move slower with heavy boots on his feet.
Zeus shoots bolts, does other electric attacks and movements that are faster then those orbs.
If you want to question then replace the slower attack part for beast Ganon charging at Link like a mere animal instead of doing much more effective things that as you listed he's capable of. The other things he can do has nothing to do with this..
This has become something that is only supported by a 'same name so it is' reason. Weren't you the one to say that Atlas in fiction is stronger then the one in-game, one of the reasons being 'in name only' so other they're not the same, but this lightning is counted only due to name even it its function and look are nothing like real lightning. There is nothing to say that it is at lightning speed..
The Elder God can also transport entities through time, in Defiance he turned water into a time portal that allowed Kain to travel 500 years. Just a random piece of information, not sure how it could be used in a fight. Earlier I think some sort of aquatic entites were mentioned, perhaps he could just send them throughout time, uselessly being BFR. Breaking the waters container and letting it loose across the field of battle would also allow him to reach those who do not sit on water.
Assuming ofc he wants to do it this way and does not just bury the lot of TP.
No because its not consistent to Kratos, apprently Link always has a two handed weapon, struggles with heavy boots etc. Kratos however counters this by having a far more consistent show of major strength feats throughout all his games.
Why would I think hes strong? the only arguable feat is based on Screampastes math which taking into considering the developers consistent ideas and animations on Link taking some effort with certain objects and not doing daft 1000+ ton feats with the majority of his items alongside his games storyline revolving around gathering a large number of useful items and gadgets make his apprent calculations which stretch logic and can be replaced by toonforce unlikely.
Links only real arguable feats is consistently lifting those blocks you mentioned but then again, neither this consistent strength nor his consistent weakness of struggling with certain items can cancel eachother out.
I agree link is far stronger than a human but hes not going to be lifting tonnes anytime soon.
Yeah, because Link's strength is never consistent. That's why we're unable to point out more than one feat in every game.
I mean, it isn't like Link has statements backing up a general increase in power throughout Twilight Princess. He has never stopped rolling Goron's in motion, or tripped another one by ripping it's feet out from under it. Nor is he able to shatter blocks of ice by whipping a metal ball on a chain at it or stop charging boar Ganon while in his Wolf Form. He isn't stronger than Ganondorf either, because he doesn't have a sword lock where he overpowers him.
And that isn't just one game, either.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Yeah, because Link's strength is never consistent. That's why we're unable to point out more than one feat in every game.I mean, it isn't like Link has statements backing up a general increase in power throughout Twilight Princess. He has never stopped rolling Goron's in motion, or tripped another one by ripping it's feet out from under it. Nor is he able to shatter blocks of ice by whipping a metal ball on a chain at it or stop charging boar Ganon while in his Wolf Form. He isn't stronger than Ganondorf either, because he doesn't have a sword lock where he overpowers him.
And that isn't just one game, either.
No he does not, certainly not in exact strength. Gorons have been shown to be fairly light as the largest of them is stopped by Links weight with the small addition of iron. Links not doing the stopping, hes sliding to a halt as Midnas hair grasps it, the actual strength of Ganon in that scene is not necesserily high anyway.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I think he's above it. Ganon in OoT is > than OoT Link. TP Link bests him.Makes sense, TP Link has no magic, so at least he has being one of the best when it comes to physical ability.
That shows how poor these arguments are. Ganon in a very particulour form that is not always seen in fights (and in that case, unique) simply knocks a light sword from Links hands (sword only goes a few meters) while he has those gauntlets on and apprently its enough to say his strength>GG bonus to Link. Nonsense.
Stopped by iron is irrelevant. Gorons are stated to be made of rock.
Midna is also irrelevant, as all the force gets put into Link while midna merely sits on his back. Link stops him, midna flips him. That Ganon is extraordinarily heavy.
That is Ganon's normal form. And I believe there was a statement.
Him lacking in magic and making up for it physically makes sense if your talking about base OoTLink, not magically enhanced.
So you believe that TPLink can lift 1000+tons and able to lift an aircraft carrier even though there's nothing to say so? Interesting that someone of that strength struggles to move with Iron Boots, Ball&Chain and that armour.. You'd think that you could put 10 tons on him.. no, on one leg and he'd be able to move like it was nothing. Also take it that you think that humanDorf has the same strength as beastGanon? (OoT versions)