LOK3 Defiance vs. Twilight Princess

Dante alone yeah, because I know both characters.

No, youve provided instances where based on your opinions without evidence you think they are heavier than their size would allow.

Then those things are not as heavy as you belive,

lol super strong, not strong enough to lift up a young man

Look pretty super strong to me.

what are you talking about with this "float in the air" BS, explain this?

I am well known to be attacked by fanboys who dont like me dismantelling their fanon.

you're actually well known for being so unfailingly dellusional that "like BT" is almost synonymous with "rock bottom" on this forum.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I deserve these posters, the amount of wild fanboys that come into KMC that I have to eventually deal with is ridiculous, where do they come from for heavens sakes?

Originally posted by Burning thought
lol perhaps their the "final metamorphasis" kerrigan is talking about.....

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Kain's human reaction speed and hilariously low durability would get him raept in the first split second.
Play a Zelda game, the boots are factually heavier than all of the things I listed.

Sircular logic based on a preconceived notion and bias. Aka, BT as usual.

Look pretty super strong to me.

If you actually understood any amount of physics, this would be obvious. Too light, and too large, you float, like a balloon.

you're actually well known for being so unfailingly dellusional that "like BT" is almost synonymous with "rock bottom" on this forum.

As I said, you dont know about the characters your trying to claim against, not sure youve even played DMC tbh..let alone LoK.

I think you need to play a Zelda game, the boots are factually made out of Iron, nothing else special stated about them.

Its well defined logic based on facts in comparison to your blundering fanon.

So this is just based on looks now? because the iron boots dont just have appearances going for them here, actual canon statement....also thats not a Goron...thats Link, cant comment on what hes lifting, it looks large but not sure of material or density.

Too light and too large? that does not describe Gorons, Gorons are not that large and their not that light, just not weighing in at the tonnes like you seem to believe.

Theres no "well known" at all, the only people who attack me are those who have had their fanon collapsed in the past. I have debated fine with less insecure and childish people, you do not count as the general norm you know? lol...

You do realize, that even if Gorons were not made out of rock like they are, it would be impossible for boots of iron to equal out Link's weight with Dangoro's, right?

Ah who am I kidding. You don't even care. You'll just stick to this like you always do.

Somebody get the jaws of life and maybe we can pry him off that crap.

They may be made of rock, never desputed that but you talk as if you have evidence that they are the majority rock. Theres no evidence of this and examination of their form that I did earlier in this thread proves this, the majority of it is flesh. And their not much taller or larger than link, on average a Goron looks a foot or two bigger...give or take. And what makes you claim this? the iron boots are fairly thick, what makes you belive that Dangoro is so heavy?

And dont talk of "impossible" because we actually see it happen, we know for a fact their only boots of Iron and we know for a fact they stop Gorons. Whats your reason to ignore these facts? because your fanon calls for Gorons to weigh in at 100 tonnes or more or something? lol...

If you stab them in the stomach, sparks fly, BT.

The boots are heavier than a bunch of other heavy shit, but BT's response? "NO! It's all light!"

If a Goron factually weighed as little as a pair of iron slabs around the size of Link's feet, bouyancy would carry him away.

If a large stone obelisk was lighter than a pair of iron slabs, it too would float away.

Originally posted by Burning thought
They may be made of rock, never desputed that but you talk as if you have evidence that they are the majority rock. Theres no evidence of this and examination of their form that I did earlier in this thread proves this, the majority of it is flesh. And their not much taller or larger than link, on average a Goron looks a foot or two bigger...give or take. And what makes you claim this? the iron boots are fairly thick, what makes you belive that Dangoro is so heavy?

And dont talk of "impossible" because we actually see it happen, we know for a fact their only boots of Iron and we know for a fact they stop Gorons. Whats your reason to ignore these facts? because your fanon calls for Gorons to weigh in at 100 tonnes or more or something? lol...

Yes, there is actually. Walking in lava, namely. Rolling against rock and knocking walls of the crap out of the way. Punching rocks to shatter them. So Goron's are not only made of the stuff, they are > rock. The only parts of Gorons that are confirmed to not be rock are a stomach that they fill with more rocks when they eat.

Gorons could have the same bodies as humans, and when you make one of Dangoro's size and proportions Iron shoes cannot equal out his weight. These boots are heavier than Iron. It is impossible to say otherwise without being incorrect.

Gorons can infact chew rubies, the only naturally occuring substance harder than ruby is diamond, which is solid carbon.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
If you stab them in the stomach, sparks fly, BT.

The boots are heavier than a bunch of other heavy shit, but BT's response? "NO! It's all light!"

If a Goron factually weighed as little as a pair of iron slabs around the size of Link's feet, bouyancy would carry him away.

If a large stone obelisk was lighter than a pair of iron slabs, it too would float away.

Show this, and this is not the concrete proof their solid rock....only that the games engine or the gameplay displays it this way.

Go prove their "heavy shit" first, trying to argue with the games actual canon is quite daft considering we know the canon metal and size of the iron boots. We dont have much fact on the things they defeat.

And if a Goron was solid rock it would not eat as it would have no orgons or storage inside to put the "rubies" and can you show something like this happening in real life? because I dont recall humans flying away and thats what Gorons appear to be save some small rock outcroppings on their arms and backs.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Yes, there is actually. Walking in lava, namely. Rolling against rock and knocking walls of the crap out of the way. Punching rocks to shatter them. So Goron's are not only made of the stuff, they are > rock. The only parts of Gorons that are confirmed to not be rock are a stomach that they fill with more rocks when they eat.

Gorons could have the same bodies as humans, and when you make one of Dangoro's size and proportions Iron shoes cannot equal out his weight. These boots are heavier than Iron. It is impossible to say otherwise without being incorrect.

The stomach is one known thing, therefore their not solid rock. And walking in lava and rolling into rocks and breaing them automatically proves their 100% rock or majority rock? no lol....

Ok prove this, because quite simply those iron boots are quite thick and look fairly solid. Dangoro is not that large, perhaps he is even weaker than a human if he cant budge someone because of slabs of iron on their feet. No, the game itself says they are merely iron, you trying to ignore your own canon in place of fanon is laughable.

Large stone obelisks are by their nature heavy, and the game engine doesn't make sparks fly for mooks, you're just going to cling to this.

That's fine, by your own logic the megaton hammer weighs a million tons. Link, under his own strength, swings it like a toy.

We know they have stomachs, but lol..

You're not claiming Gorons are as heavy as a human of their size, you're claiming their as light as a man and two small pieces of iron. At their size, they'd float away. And yet, they sink in water, much harder to sink in than air.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Gorons can infact chew rubies, the only naturally occuring substance harder than ruby is diamond, which is solid carbon.

Moissanite is a naturally occurring substance that is harder than ruby.

Still, chewing rubies is rather kickass.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Large stone obelisks are by their nature heavy, and the game engine doesn't make sparks fly for mooks, you're just going to cling to this.

That's fine, by your own logic the megaton hammer weighs a million tons. Link, under his own strength, swings it like a toy.

We know they have stomachs, but lol..

You're not claiming Gorons are as heavy as a human of their size, you're claiming their as light as a man and two small pieces of iron. At their size, they'd float away.

No, by my own logic the megaton hammer has no statement of canon to suggest is weighs that much. Just like the Iron boots have no statement of canon that suggests its anything more than the iron Bo directly states it is 🙄 but "your just going to cling to this" because your fanon requires it.

Prove this, show me something in real life floating away because of something similiar? sounds ridiculous to me and ignores the games facts.

Also this is interesting form Zeldapedia (as questionable a source as it may be, it does not strain to reach for "zomg super dense iron!" and 1000 ton link so its better than the Zelda opposition 😉 )

Gorons are physically intimidating as their height and sheer size are almost double that of an average human, at least in some games. They are presumably silicon-based due to a strict diet of rocks and, possibly as a result, they develop rocky growths on their backs as they age. The apparent immunity to drowning shown in Twilight Princess would also stem from this, as the silicate minerals/rocks are extremely common and contain oxygen. (This does not, however, explain Goron Link's weakness to water.) Due to their enormous density and weight, likely from high muscle-mass, they are unable to swim, but, as said above, they don't respire like others do; presumably one who reaches the bottom would be able to make his way back out. Some Gorons grow much larger than the average one, but this is very rare.

So thats the whole "solid rock" nonsense out the window.

Also I would like to see the source of Gorons eating rubies.

Actually, that disproves nothing, it's just an inconclusive quote from a wiki that doesn't include the evidence you're constantly being bombarded with, yet ignore.

Constantly being bombarded with= one image that does not conclude any of your points. I see....perhaps thats why your fanon and ideals around Zelda are so far apart from the actual canon, you simply look at one image and create your own fantasy.

Also the wiki just describes what you can see in images like this:

Majority of flesh with small outcroppings of rock. Do you even have canon evidence that theres even a slight majority of rock in them?

Oh, wow, you acknowledged the existance of an image proving Goron's are super strong, now, acknowledge all the examples sorrounding that image in posts by myself and Moo of Gorons and the boots proving thier weight.

Edit: And that image proves...? Nothing at all. Those smooth areas? Sparks fly from them.

That image is not too different from others that you toss down now and then just to claim the iron boots are somehow made of something more than the canon claims because you belive it would not make sense. Your basically saying the fiction has to be real to physics, therefore the actual canon is wrong, the iron boots have some unkown special property adding tonnes to the typical iron they are made of....

lol, sorry but canon>your fanon.

Sparks fly from them created by the games engine therefore their automatically rock? what an incredible combination of logical deductions! almost as good as deducing fantasies from one image.

It supports that they're made of rock, you know, like the games say.

the iron boots are heavier than iron because they'ere heavier than things that are also heavier than iron. 🙂 Simple

Oh the games say do they? do they say their 100% rock? solid rock? do the games say and properly outline that theres no flesh on them?

I highly doubt it, if so go and prove this. Otherwise continue your baseless fanon and ignoring the games canon.

Your just repeating what I have already outlined as your daft nonsense but thanks for proving my point. I thinkz the game is wrongs and can add magical powerz to objects becoz my calculations need to be rights!"

Actually, you're the one making foolish claims. haermm

the iron boots prove that they're heavier than stone obelisks, and you still claim they're light. I had some lulz.

Yes foolish claims, I am claiming that Iron boots are denser than iron simply because if they were not it would not make my characters seem as impressive. I claim the game is wrong because my calculations say Gorons weigh in at tonnes and the iron boots actually being made of iron prove me wrong therefore I then make claims that Bo was wrong and that the iron boots are either not iron or because i know better than Bo they have some special enhancement that makes them heavier because a fictional game has to make 100% logical sense!

Oh wait, you made all those claims not I!, silly me....

Oh and I asked for proof of the rubies and evidence that the Gorons are a majority volume of rock, nice dodge though...