LOK3 Defiance vs. Twilight Princess

Originally posted by BloodRain
It would by that show that he isn't 100% solid to have a size like that that's pushed up by the lava. IRL rocks that size would not stay on the surface.

Jumping out of the lava would be a simpler method.

Cole shoots out streams of electricity, its fast. When its orbs, its slow.
Megaman EXE shoots out streams of electricity, its fast. When its orbs, its slow.
Zeus shoots out streams of electricity, its fast. When its orbs, its slow.
Dante shoots out streams of electricity, its fast. When its orbs, its slow.
Smash Pikachu shoots out streams of electricity, its fast. When its orbs, its slow.
Neku shoots out streams of electricity, its fast. When its orbs, its slow.
An I think some Sonic, Castlevania and other games do the same thing, and as it appears LoZ follows suit.

Just random examples showing first that bolts>orbs in speed from games including LoZ and unless proven its just an electric orb travelling at its own set speed. Only thing to say they are of bolt speed is 'because its electricity so it has to' but that has to be proven ifs there are many differences to the real deal.

Because to bounce back lightning like he did both Zelda and Link would have to be slashing at 120,000m/s :/

Zeus never throws orbs. He throws bolts, which are his main method of attack. Apart from the final attack of his against Kratos in their battle on the Summit of Sacrifice, he typically does not use streams of lightning.

Link deals with both bolts and orbs. You know you're fast when you can backflip away from lightning bolts.

http://www.zeldawiki.org/Lakitu

Ganon can shoot lightning bolts, when in danger, shoots lightning, but the player needs to be able to bat it back. This is a gameplay mechanic, and does not override the canon of Ganon shooting lightning bolts.

@DP: In the GoW3 first boss fight he's hurling orb-like electricity not firing off bolts. Point here is that he 'can' use orbs that are slower then his bolts.

@5L: Never reacted to bolts that isn't just gameplay. Never in a cutscene or interactive move.

Originally posted by BloodRain
@DP: In the GoW3 first boss fight he's hurling orb-like electricity not firing off bolts. Point here is that he 'can' use orbs that are slower then his bolts.

@5L: Never reacted to bolts that isn't just gameplay. Never in a cutscene or interactive move.

You mean the ones he fires off diagonally? Yeah, those are normal bolts 😬
He's never fired off orbs in cutscenes either.
Not to mention, ya know, with Kratos trying to kill him, it'd be rather idiotic of him not to use bolts but slower attacks instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3FSsNA78iI

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At 1:50 it doesn't seem to have any travel time. Looks instant.

Originally posted by The Scenario
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3FSsNA78iI

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At 1:50 it doesn't seem to have any travel time. Looks instant.

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Triforce of Power

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
You mean the ones he fires off diagonally? Yeah, those are normal bolts 😬
He's never fired off orbs in cutscenes either.
Not to mention, ya know, with Kratos trying to kill him, it'd be rather idiotic of him not to use bolts but slower attacks instead.

Anyway, Link and Zelda can't move anywhere near 120km/s

Originally posted by BloodRain
/shrugs. Whichever one I'm on about are clearly not streaming bolts.
Their reasons are theirs. Maybe they have different [rambles on about effects] and he has used different kind of attacks with different speeds.

Anyway, Link and Zelda can't move anywhere near 120km/s

What exactly do you mean by streaming bolts? A stream of lightning from his hand to the attack?

120 km/s? 😐 Not even Dante can move at that speed afaik. >__>
That's ~ Mach 350.

Well, Link can track and swat lightning out of the air. Ganondorf can too. Zelda has no showings of doing such, it was Ganon in her body in TP, not her.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Ganon can shoot lightning bolts, when in danger, shoots lightning, but the player needs to be able to bat it back. This is a [b]gameplay mechanic, and does not override the canon of Ganon shooting lightning bolts. [/B]

Bullshit because if this is God of War 2 we're talking about, you'd agree with me.

Originally posted by The Scenario
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3FSsNA78iI

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At 1:50 it doesn't seem to have any travel time. Looks instant.

Notice how close Link was? Of course with that range and the scene cut, it's gonna look instant. The lightning balls don't move fast and the speed isn't a gameplay mechanic.

Geez, I wonder what other fanfiction you Zelda fanboys are gonna come up with next?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
What exactly do you mean by streaming bolts? A stream of lightning from his hand to the attack?

120 km/s? 😐 Not even Dante can move at that speed afaik. >__>
That's ~ Mach 350.

Pretty much near that number. If a lightning bolt is 60,000m/s, to strike at it, pull your arm back and strike again you'll have to be faster then the lightning bolt. Another reason why it is not at lightning speed as they cant move at those speeds.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Well, Link can track and swat lightning out of the air. Ganondorf can too. Zelda has no showings of doing such, it was Ganon in her body in TP, not her.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Basically a bolt [Like what real lightning looks like] and orbs. [Any ball kind of projectile made of electricity but obviously not as fast as bolts as all those examples say]

Pretty much near that number. If a lightning bolt is 60,000m/s, to strike at it, pull your arm back and strike again you'll have to be faster then the lightning bolt. Another reason why it is not at lightning speed as they cant move at those speeds.

Yeah, Zeus uses those bolts of his and they pretty much are lightning. It's just shown as the 'Z shape' as that is how Zeus' bolts were represented in the Myths. Like I've said before, he's pretty much the master of Lightning, and he can even slow down or quicken its speed.
He isn't like Cole who is simply a human that uses electricity.
Poseidon doesn't even swing his arms forward at the speed Zeus usually does, but he can still cause lightning that actually looks like real-world lightning.

I believe I can swing my arm a lot faster than I can move my body forward. Pretty sure that should be the case for Link.

When you were talking about 120 km/s, I thought you were referring to their movement speed.

Bullshit because if this is God of War 2 we're talking about, you'd agree with me.

Have you not seen me supporting Kratos' lightning catch? Infact, Link's case is actually stronger than Kratos', as Link actually strikes it in air multiple times consecutively.

But yeah. I support Kratos', I don't see your point. 😐

Geez, I wonder what other fanfiction you Zelda fanboys are gonna come up with next?

Actually, NemeBro mentioned it first, and he's known for referring to Link as a shovel, among other things. 😬

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Have you not seen me supporting Kratos' lightning catch?

I was assuming that you only believed it in GoW3.

Infact, Link's case is actually stronger than Kratos', as Link actually strikes it in air multiple times consecutively.

Link never reflects lightning. That's just magic bolts and move at the same speed when used in that blackhole attack. This is lightning:

YouTube video

Notice the difference in speed?

Actually, NemeBro mentioned it first, and he's known for referring to Link as a shovel, among other things. 😬

You sure it wasn't him mentioning Kratos can reflect lightning?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
I was assuming that you only believed it in GoW3.

Link never reflects lightning. That's just magic bolts and move at the same speed when used in that blackhole attack. This is lightning:

YouTube video

Notice the difference in speed?

You sure it wasn't him mentioning Kratos can reflect lightning?

Notice the player doesn't have to deflect that? 😬

It was in this very thread that Nemebro highlighted it.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
You know, it has occurred to me.

Link has several times dodged/blocked lightning.

He did it in OoT, aLttP, and TP all against Ganondorf in one of his forms, and has many other times against different bosses.

Lol, Kain is not hitting shit.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It took GoW3 to prove it to me, but shit happens. 😐

Notice the player doesn't have to deflect that? 😬

Because Link can't react to that. Also, he had the Kokiri Sword.

It was in this very thread that Nemebro highlighted it.

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There were no electrical balls in LttP. The only electricity that Link deals with (besides Agahnim and the Big Eye) are the Buzz Blobs and the electrical barrier in Hyrule Castle.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Because Link can't react to that. Also, he had the Kokiri Sword.

There were no electrical balls in LttP. The only electricity that Link deals with (besides Agahnim and the Big Eye) are the Buzz Blobs and the electrical barrier in Hyrule Castle.

You're essentially trying to use a gameplay mechanic to fuel your argument. The player could not have reflected the lightning Barinade shot, humans can't do that shit.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Ganondorf fight, among others, says he can. Also, yeah, doubt the kokiri sword would reflect it.

You're essentially trying to use a gameplay mechanic to fuel your argument. The player could not have reflected the lightning Barinade shot, humans can't do that shit.

You got no proof that Link can reflect lightning especially with its speed. All you have to base your arguments is complete bullshit. The cutscene showing Ganondorf blasting Link with a ball is laughably bad evidence. For one, the balls comes out of the hand at a speed that the eye can see traveling. Then, there's a cut to show Link getting blasted with Ganondorf in front of him. With that and the elf boy at a nearby distance, of course it's gonna look instant.

You can say the Master Sword can destroy electricity (as shown in LttP) but to react to it is just as nonsensical as Young Link surviving a moon explosion and the fall to Termina. But you and the lollovelinkclub can continue make these fanboy feats. They're pretty funny 😆