Viking life

Originally posted by Spire
My opinion is that the katana is inferior to the long sword.

I imagine after a couple collisions between the two swords, the katana's edge would be all messed up.

Maybe dull, chipped...?

Long sword still has the reach advantage ans its double bladed.

It would definitely be up to the combatants skills to than ever as the Viking would no longer be able to tank sword strikes.

actually samurai sword blocking is usually done with the back of the sword to avoid chipping and dulling the edge.

in a sword fight it is more then reach but the wielders ability to fight and maneuver.. in single sword fight i give it to the better trained skilled warrior

man, so, what I've got from this is that, way back in the day, people were ****ing magic (Samurais were immortal gods of death and vikings were impennetrable chi masters [sic: to both]).

Did I misread somewhere?

yes, u missed something. its called reading the rules against spamming/trolling..

my comment was an on topic mockery of certain positions I read within the last few comments on the previous page

yours is an off topic personal slight

this entire thread started with deadline trying to deflect an argument from another post and i never sided with the samurai in full gear combat not once but ppl think i did based on the skill, speed argument and knowledge of a particular warrior

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not well enough to ignore being cut by a sword swung by a competent person they can't. You've made an extraordinary claim, where's your extraordinary evidence?

I don't have to prove anything. Im simply telling you what I think from my personal experience. Due to what I've experienced it may actually be possible.

When I was practising Iron Shirt I didn't know I was going to be part of KMC and I would have to have collected proof. If I knew that I would gone out of my way to collect data just so I could prove it for you. Hell why don't you do some research instead of getting on my case everytime I bring it up? 😬

Originally posted by inimalist
man, so, what I've got from this is that, way back in the day, people were ****ing magic (Samurais were immortal gods of death and vikings were impennetrable chi masters [sic: to both]).

Did I misread somewhere?

I personally think its personal due to the training I've done.

Originally posted by Deadline
I don't have to prove anything. Im simply telling you what I think from my personal experience. Due to what I've experienced it may actually be possible.

When I was practising Iron Shirt I didn't know I was going to be part of KMC and I would have to have collected proof. If I knew that I would gone out of my way to collect data just so I could prove it for you. Hell why don't you do some research instead of getting on my case everytime I bring it up? 😬

Because its your job to support a claim you make, not mine. Let's say that I'm awesome at jumping and thus claim that samurai (better jumpers than me) would probably be able to get thirty of fourty feet in the air. Surely you would expect me to provide some sort of evidence and if I didn't point out that "that's the craziest bullshit I've ever heard".

Anyway I can't find any evidence of real people being able to use chi to stop sharp objects or any evidence of it being useful in real combat outside of legend.

In fact mostly I'm finding advice on how to keep my lapels crisp . . .

iron shirt? as in the monk body hardening?

i know ppl's muscles and bones can increase in density through training and i have seen some monk spear demonstration not sure if that would be the same as slashing motion and if it would work..

one of my friends was a dirt bike enthusiast and he had told me about a bike rider who died from internal injury caused by a trick gone bad.. he died b/c doctors couldnt get into his internals on time b/c his stomach muscles were extreme dense and tight from repetitive training with the dirt bike.. a scalpel couldnt cut him like it was suppose to.

Originally posted by Deadline
I personally think its personal due to the training I've done.

then you can see why i wouldn't believe it?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because its your job to support a claim you make, not mine. I can't find any evidence of real people being able to use chi to stop sharp objects or any evidence of it being useful in combat.

In fact mostly I'm finding advice on how to keep my lapels crisp . . .

I'm sure you can find the video on youtube (i have no interest in watching it) of a guy who actually believed he could do this

he got on tv, and somebody burried a sword into their arm, because his "chi" powers didn't work properly.

i seen the monk iron shirt and spear demo in casino show floors and whatnot.. two finger upside down push ups. etc etc..

anyways with body hardening i only go so far especially in MA training.. my master use to wanna do his blind fold sword cutting demo on me and i never let his @$$ get near me..

punching sand and kicking and punching me to harden me up is one thing pushing a sword or hitting me with a metal slab over my head is not going to happen..

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because its your job to support a claim you make, not mine. I can't find any evidence of real people being able to use chi to stop sharp objects or any evidence of it being useful in combat.

In fact mostly I'm finding advice on how to keep my lapels crisp . . .

No it isn't. When thing your failing to understand is this if I've done this training I do actually have a logical basis for my beliefs. Just because I don't have the proof doesn't make it wrong for me to mention in a discussion forum.

I don't have time to drop what im doing to prove to you that Iron shirt exists. All I can do at this moment is tell you things from my perspective just because I don't have the proof you need doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to express my opinion.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
iron shirt? as in the monk body hardening?

i know ppl's muscles and bones can increase in density through training and i have seen some monk spear demonstration not sure if that would be the same as slashing motion and if it would work..

one of my friends was a dirt bike enthusiast and he had told me about a bike rider who died from internal injury caused by a trick gone bad.. he died b/c doctors couldnt get into his internals on time b/c his stomach muscles were extreme dense and tight from repetitive training with the dirt bike.. a scalpel couldnt cut him like it was suppose to.

Scalpels are small instruments that have to be used quite precisely during surgery. If they just needed to hack through his flesh with a meat cleaver and then let him die I really doubt it would have been a problem.

Yes, people can train themselves to be very resilient. Boxers can go for many rounds against people who could probably lay me out with one punch. Martial artists all around the world have proven that with concentration and preparation you can stand up to very powerful impacts, Houdini could do it too.

There's a long distance between "surprisingly tough" and "can't be hurt with a sword".

Originally posted by inimalist
then you can see why i wouldn't believe it?

Of course but you should keep open mind. I don't have any stats don't mean it has to be bullshit.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because its your job to support a claim you make, not mine. Let's say that I'm awesome at jumping and thus claim that samurai (better jumpers than me) would probably be able to get thirty of fourty feet in the air. Surely you would expect me to provide some sort of evidence and if I didn't point out that "that's the craziest bullshit I've ever heard".

You idiot. 😠 😠 😠 Obviously, you didn't watch Samurai Jack. Remember, "You jump good."? AHA!

Originally posted by Deadline
Of course but you should keep open mind.

sure, give me one iota of reason to believe it and we can talk

else, open your mind to the glory of Allah. I don't have the time to prove to you that he is real, but trust me, from my own experiences, I can promise he is real.

and optimus prime. I don't have time to drop everything I'm doing to prove it to you, but keep an open mind.

Originally posted by Deadline
I don't have any stats don't mean it has to be bullshit.

lol, forget stats, give me a plausible mechanism

i think a person can tank a spear or sword thrust by flexing but i dont see them getting the option in a real fight and the sword will go into them easily with the speed and force put into it..

after all your not going to slowly place a sword or spear and slowly apply pressure while the person flexes and tightens his body as he prepares with his own counter force in a real combat situation.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i seen the monk iron shirt and spear demo in casino show floors and whatnot.. two finger upside down push ups. etc etc..

I've seen David Blaine levitate, Chris Angel cut in half, and David Copperfield make a traincar dissapear.

Originally posted by Deadline
No it isn't. When thing your failing to understand is this if I've done this training I do actually have a logical basis for my beliefs. Just because I don't have the proof doesn't make it wrong for me to mention in a discussion forum.

No you don't have a logical basis. You've extended one real life technique far beyond your own familiarity with it. That's not logic.

Here's the line of thinking you've demonstrated:

I can take a punch really well.
This guy can take a punch better than me.
Thus Vikings were invulnerable to swords.

Socrates and Aristotle are sobbing in their graves right now.

Originally posted by inimalist
I've seen David Blaine levitate, Chris Angel cut in half, and David Copperfield make a traincar dissapear.

Originally posted by inimalist
sure, give me one iota of reason to believe it and we can talk

else, open your mind to the glory of Allah. I don't have the time to prove to you that he is real, but trust me, from my own experiences, I can promise he is real.

and optimus prime. I don't have time to drop everything I'm doing to prove it to you, but keep an open mind.

I can understand your skepticism but you dont'actually know me. Thats not a reason to believe but its not a reason to unsult somebody either. Its up to you you can take that option if you like

Originally posted by inimalist

lol, forget stats, give me a plausible mechanism

Im not even sure how it works myself. All I know is that when I foucsed on certain areas I could make my body tougher. Its a combination of physical exercise and meditation. One example were my stomache muscles by focusing on the stomache I was able to make it alot tougher than my friends, they were doing the same exercises I was doing and were not able to do it.