Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Absolutely, screwing over the Germans after defeating them in WWI was the spark for WWII. Not to mention that after you win you're supposed to stop killing people, if you do that you're clearly nuts.
I don't get your point, but that's ok, I don't want to go off topic.
If you were in charge of Israel, what would you do to make peace with someone who will only settle for your destruction?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't get your point, but that's ok, I don't want to go off topic.If you were in charge of Israel, what would you do to make peace with someone who will only settle for your destruction?
Originally posted by King Kandy
That's a tricky question; if you were Palestine, how could you make piece with someone who has done not one act to help you, and everything to hurt you?
I would first get rid of Hamas, then I would declare that Israel has a right to exist. Then I would call on Israel to declare that Palestine has the right to exist. The fact that I declared it first, would force Israel to do the same. I would then Demand land, and promise to no longer attack Israel. I would back this up with Laws that made attacking Israel from Palestine punishable by death. I would also release all hostages.
How's that?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I would first get rid of Hamas, then I would declare that Israel has a right to exist. Then I would call on Israel to declare that Palestine has the right to exist. The fact that I declared it first, would force Israel to do the same. I would then Demand land, and promise to no longer attack Israel. I would back this up with Laws that made attacking Israel from Palestine punishable by death. I would also release all hostages.How's that?
'cept it would fail. Israel is unfliching in its resolve, and its not like they haven't heard similar things in the past. I bet if you did some research you'd find that the Palestinians called for peace and the Israeli's just kept on conquerin'.
You keep making reference to Hamas but you seem to forget that the majority of Palestinians support the PLO.
Originally posted by Liberator
'cept it would fail. Israel is unfliching in its resolve, and its not like they haven't heard similar things in the past. I bet if you did some research you'd find that the Palestinians called for peace and the Israeli's just kept on conquerin'.You keep making reference to Hamas but you seem to forget that the majority of Palestinians support the PLO.
What I said was close to what the UN proposed in the 70's, and it was the Palestinians who broke the accords.
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonBy definition, you can't. This is the crux of the problem. As much as the American/secular mindset likes to think everything is ultimately negotiable (the "business model," I suppose): unless there is a fundamental shift of mental tectonics in the destroyers' mindset, this problem becomes inherently unsolvable. And the more resilient the destroyee is, the greater the determination to wipe him out, until it becomes an obsession. Until it becomes central to one's identity.
If you were in charge of Israel, what would you do to make peace with someone who will only settle for your destruction?
To paraphrase Abba Eban, this is why some people never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
Originally posted by Bicnarok
maybe they should have given the Jews a bit of Germany after the war instead of sending them into a hostile desert. Mind you if that had happened and at the rate Israel steal land, the whole of Europe would be Israel by now.
Except the idea of Jewish homeland in Israel started in the 19th century (as did slow immigration) and not after the WWII. The immigration became really intense after WWII, yes, but it wasn't something that was initially drawn up after Hitler.
Originally posted by King Kandy
What are you talking about, ALL UN land accords have been consistently broken by israeli settlement growths.
Oh, the Palestinian people are so pure in heart and have never hurt, let alone, blow then selves up and killed hundreds of people. 😐 I also seem to remember a group of Israel Olympians who were murdered after being kidnapped.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Oh, the Palestinian people are so pure in heart and have never hurt, let alone, blow then selves up and killed hundreds of people. 😐 I also seem to remember a group of Israel Olympians who were murdered after being kidnapped.
Number of UN accords broken by Israelis>number UN accord broken by Palestinians.
Wrong on both counts.
Originally posted by King Kandythat's how you win a war, pussy.
Number of Palestinians killed by Israelis>number of Israelis killed by Palestinians.
UN isn't king of the world, or the prime diviner of what's right and wrong. It's a country club. (lol @ double meaning)
Number of UN accords broken by Israelis>number UN accord broken by Palestinians.Wrong on both counts.
Originally posted by Liberator
'cept it would fail. Israel is unfliching in its resolve, and its not like they haven't heard similar things in the past. I bet if you did some research you'd find that the Palestinians called for peace and the Israeli's just kept on conquerin'.You keep making reference to Hamas but you seem to forget that the majority of Palestinians support the PLO.
So Israel enacted the unilateral disengagement plan and forcibly removed it's own citizens from settlements in Gaza and the West Bank. What was this met with?...The Palestinians electing Hamas and rocket attacks from the recently vacated areas increasing 10-fold.
So it really seems like it's you that needs to do the research.
Originally posted by inimalist
the election of Hamas was a little more complex than that
What are you talking about? Of course not. Everything is black and white in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. No need to think complicated. Stop complicating and confusing.
Everyone knows it's all black and white.