Thanos with infinity gems vs Anti monitor

Originally posted by quanchi112
What does Maelstrom have to do with Am's powers? We also saw Maesltrom get killed twice by less than the ig. One angry blast from the ig wouldn't defeat Eternity either so I guess he must be immune either because angry blasts are the ig at it's best, amirite?

By all means.

And your underlined sentence effectively argues my point about Magus only dealing with a slowly expanding tiny marble-sized nullification sphere, nothing less, nothing more. Definitely not more than an instantaneous Multiverse destroying/recreation blast. Bravo.

The fact Strange can stand against the complete gauntlet in Warlocks hands proves with enough power, it can be matched... And if it can be matched, it can be exceeded.

And where Strange was using every last scrap of magic items in conjunction, Anti Monitor had the powers of multiple universes, power items, including absorbing the Wishing Machine, the entire Gemworld universe, and more.. At his peak, he was far FAR greater than the sum of powers Strange was tapping, which is only a universes worth or so.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Sorry, but IG's universal power falls short... as has its prescience. But you can feel free to argue that its power/prescience beats AM as long as you admit that neither meant jack to Maelstrom.

By all means.

And your underlined sentence effectively argues my point about Magus only dealing with a slowly expanding tiny marble-sized nullification sphere, nothing less, nothing more. Definitely not more than an instantaneous Multiverse destroying/recreation blast. Bravo.

When did Thanos oneshot an abstract anyways? Show me one instance where he just killed one with one blast. I await your backpedaling.

Originally posted by cdtm
The fact Strange can stand against the complete gauntlet in Warlocks hands proves with enough power, it can be matched... And if it can be matched, it can be exceeded.

And where Strange was using every last scrap of magic items in conjunction, Anti Monitor had the powers of multiple universes, power items, including absorbing the Wishing Machine, the entire Gemworld universe, and more.. At his peak, he was far FAR greater than the sum of powers Strange was tapping, which is only a universes worth or so.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He took on each gem and yet he got owned by Thor with the power gem and was nothing against the ig when Magus and Thanos wielded it because unlike warlock they just kill him.

Because he wasn't using all of his talismans and magic items. This is something he prepared in advance for the showdown with Warlock, and stored away after the fight.

And for them to even function in conjunction as a counter to the full power of the Power Gem, he needed further prep, beyond just gathering them up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So could that same blast have defeated Eternity? Or would he need a little more to beat Eternity?

When did Thanos oneshot an abstract anyways? Show me one instance where he just killed one with one blast. I await your backpedaling.

Eternity... hello? Warlock and Nebula basically one-shotted Abstracts, not Thanos. And Maelstrom was still immune to any and all amounts/permutations of IG power/prescience in the same self-serving way Magus could have manipulated any and all ammounts/permutations of UN energy.

You can stop with the double-standards anytime now.

Originally posted by cdtm
Because he wasn't using all of his talismans and magic items. This is something he prepared in advance for the showdown with Warlock, and stored away after the fight.

And for them to even function in conjunction as a counter to the full power of the Power Gem, he needed further prep, beyond just gathering them up.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You're making the argument that wholly eviscerates your "manipulate tiny marble-sized sphere" rationale. Do you even realize you're doing this anymore? It's like pushing your foot down harder onto a nail... repeatedly. Are you trolling yourself?

Eternity... hello? Warlock and Nebula basically one-shotted Abstracts, not Thanos. And Maelstrom was still immune to any and all amounts/permutations of IG power/prescience in the same self-serving way Magus could have manipulated any and all ammounts/permutations of UN energy.

You can stop with the double-standards anytime now.

What was the writer's intent with the ig in relation to manipulating it's energies? Just answer it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nebula defeated them as did Thanos. Nebula fell victim to something Thanos didn't and she didn't defeat Eternity. Laughs. Warlock never even phased him and which abstract did he oneshot? Go ahead and tell me.

What was the writer's intent with the ig in relation to manipulating it's energies? Just answer it.

What was the writer's intent with the ig in relation to Maelstrom's immunity to it's energies? Just answer it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
So I answer when Abstracts get one-shotted. And you laugh? At what? Yourself? Warlock one-shotted the Abstracts when he lost his temper at LT's tribunal. LT had to snap his fingers to undo all the damage.

What was the writer's intent with the ig in relation to Maelstrom's immunity to it's energies? Just answer it.

Which abstract was killed by a blast? I guess none of them were,huh? You even stated yourself Thanos didn't oneshot any abstracts but since he didn't defeat Maelstrom you pretend he's immune. You are cracking me up.

That Thanos couldn't kill him with one angry blast at his power levels just like he can't kill eternity, etc. just as easily.

Now your turn to answer my question. What was his intention? The fact you will dance around this question because you know exactly what the writer's intent proves I always go by what the comics give me while you don't.

^ So you laughed at yourself. K.

You asked when they got one-shotted. I answered. Then you laughed. At yourself apparently. Maelstrom wasn't even effected in the slightest. Thanos couldn't even sense him or tell what happened. What are you jabbering about?

Thanos utterly phased to affect him or even perceive what happened. Slight difference, slick.

Now your turn to answer my question. What was his intention? The fact you will dance around this question because you know exactly what the writer's intent proves I always go by what the comics give me while you don't.

Infinity Gauntlet vs Cosmic Armor all over again.

✅ ... facepalm

Originally posted by cdtm

The fact Strange can stand against the complete gauntlet in Warlocks hands

Strange has never stood up to the full, half or quarter IG.

Warlock was toying with Strange, ONE Gem at a time.
Warlock NEVER wanted to hurt Strange.
When Warlock got pissed, and finally decided to damage Strange,
Warlock only used the Power Gem.
At this point Strange had prepped before hand for this moment,
by taking all of his Talismans and combining them,
yet,
Strange knew that one moment longer and he would've been obliterated,
Warlock realized this too, and felt sorry, so he stopped his crusade and allowed Strange to live.

Thor with the Power Gem one shotted Strange/Surfer and Drax simultaneously.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Multi-Eternity was literally described on-panel during the Abraxas saga in the most "hold-your-hands-you-might-be-stupid-so-I-will-spell-it-out" way you could possibly do it. Any argument otherwise is an affliction of blindness.

Originally posted by Mr Master

There is no "multi" Eternity.

That name was given to Eternity by Captain Universe,
in order to differentiate Eternity from it's aspects.

But what some here have ignored, is that Captain Universe
called this so-called "multi" Eternity ... "Eternity"
he also called this so called "multi" Eternity .. "The Universe",
he did so, on the very SAME splash page where he calls 616 Eternity "multi" ...

Reed (in the Abraxas arc) also called 'multi' Eternity, ... just .... "Eternity"

Roma (in the Abraxas arc) also called All That IS/Was/Ever Will Be ... [b]just Eternity ...

(no 'multi' .. or 'omni' for that matter)

... oh ... and just "The Universe"

[/B]

Why is the so called "multi" Eternity, literally called "THE Universe" & just "Eternity"
by Reed, Captain Universe, and Roma,
heck Roma even states that all that has ever been, will be or ever was, is within "Eternity"
not "multi" or "omni" or any other nonsense.

But yea, perhaps Roma, the freakin Omniversal guardian,
really believes that a singular Eternity contains the Omniverse.

Or can it be, or is it, like the official Marvel Handbooks clearly point out:

That Eternity 616 is special, special how he is the one that Thanos/IG defeated,
he is the one that Genis/Entropy killed and remade,
he is the one Dormy merged with,
he is the one that Reed/UN recreated:

Originally posted by Mr Master

616 Eternity
clearly known and confirmed in 616 Eternity's bio.

616 Eternity 2006 Bio: (concerning the IG)

616 Eternity 2006 Bio: (concerning Reed using the UN)

616 Eternity 2006 Bio: (concerning Dormy in 616 and merging with Eternity power) *

^ And still the Eternity that showed up in Abraxas represented the Marvel Multiverse, and the one that showed up in Infinity Gauntlet/War represented a universe. Nothing you've said convinces me that I ought to be reverse-projecting the multiversality from the crisis in Abraxas onto the crises in Infinity Gauntlet/War. The 616 IG made Thanos got of the 616 universe. Not the alternate universes, which had their own alternate IGs to make people gods of those alternate universes, as Thanos and his doppleganger literally discuss on-panel.

Galactus may be the prime Galactus, but he doesn't contain the power. Of every alternate Galactus housed in his frame. He still gets beat up by Thor's godblast. And Galactus did not perform a multiversal surgery. Let's not be dense here.

Neither Infinity Gauntlet, nor Infinity War required you to read handbooks, random stories from Defenders or an FF story ten years in the future to understand what was going on. Please.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

^ And still the Eternity that showed up in Abraxas represented the Marvel Multiverse, and the one that showed up in Infinity Gauntlet/War represented a universe. Nothing you've said convinces me that I ought to be reverse-projecting the multiversality from the crisis in Abraxas onto the crises in Infinity Gauntlet/War. The 616 IG made Thanos got of the 616 universe. Not the alternate universes, which had their own alternate IGs to make people gods of those alternate universes, as Thanos and his doppleganger literally discuss on-panel.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

And Galactus did not perform a multiversal surgery.

It's no different than Giraud cauterizing 691 Eternity.
I mean we know Giraud is not a Universal power,
yet he performed said feat on the M-Body of that Eternity.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Neither Infinity Gauntlet, nor Infinity War required you to read handbooks, random stories from Defenders or an FF story ten years in the future to understand what was going on. Please.

The fact that all 3 stories deal with the same exact character demands the attention of all arcs.
Just like we use several appearances by any given character
across several given stories housed in separate Marvel titles.

If some fact has been outright retconned then we dismiss that particular,
if not, the past is just as viable as the present and/or future.

So 616 Eternity holds ENTIRE UniverseS in one hand: (pre-Infinity Gauntlet series)

So 616 Eternity kills and creates entire UniverseS all day, every day,
and even has the power to re-birth ALL Universes: (post-Infinity Gauntlet series)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nothing you've said convinces me either,
so I guess we'll agree to disagree.

Right, Galactus performed surgery on the M-Body of 616 Eternity,
not the Multiverse itself, just cause 616 Eternity is connected to the power of all of Eternity,
doesn't mean he is the actual Multiverse or more.

It's no different than Giraud cauterizing 691 Eternity.
I mean we know Giraud is not a Universal power,
yet he performed said feat on the M-Body of that Eternity.

I disagree.

The fact that all 3 stories deal with the same exact character demands the attention of all arcs.
Just like we use several appearances by any given character
across several given stories housed in separate Marvel titles.

If some fact has been outright retconned then we dismiss that particular,
if not, the past is just as viable as the present and/or future.

So 616 Eternity holds ENTIRE UniverseS in one hand: (pre-Infinity Gauntlet series)

So 616 Eternity kills and creates entire UniverseS all day, every day,
and even has the power to re-birth ALL Universes: (post-Infinity Gauntlet series)

Originally posted by Galan007
Nice post. 👆

Originally posted by cdtm
Come to think of it, it's odd that Quanchi pushed so hard for the current version of the Anti Life Equation in that Orion with ALE vs Odin thread, yet he's assuming Thanos is using the complete, fully working Infinity Gauntlet despite the fact that the current versions of the gems are forbidden by Eternity from working in unison.

Heh.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Just because My mom gave birth to me, doesn't mean she has my power. Or She is as strong as me. 616 Eternity can birth the other time lines but it doesn't mean he's more powerful or even as powerful. He's just the parent.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Surgery on the M-Body of 616 Eternity, not the Multiverse itself, just cause 616 Eternity is connected to the power of all of Eternity, doesn't mean he is the actual Multiverse or more.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The fact that all 3 stories deal with the same exact character demands the attention of all arcs. Just like we use several appearances by any given character across several given stories housed in separate Marvel titles.

If some fact has been outright retconned then we dismiss that particular, if not, the past is just as viable as the present and/or future.

So 616 Eternity holds ENTIRE UniverseS in one hand: (pre-Infinity Gauntlet series)

So 616 Eternity kills and creates entire UniverseS all day, every day,
and even has the power to re-birth ALL Universes: (post-Infinity Gauntlet series)

Originally posted by Mr Master
ON PANEL>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bio
[QUOTE=12774829]Originally posted by Mr Master
"Should Abraxas reach the NULLIFIER,

He CAN OBLITERATE ALL the COMBINED REALITIES of the MULTI-VERSE"

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Just because My mom gave birth to me, doesn't mean she has my power. Or She is as strong as me. 616 Eternity can birth the other time lines but it doesn't mean he's more powerful or even as powerful. He's just the parent.