Thanos with infinity gems vs Anti monitor

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This Multi-Eternity you speak of.... How many appearances does it have? Funny enough... the same arc where the term Multi Eternity appeared also called him just Eternity multiple times and referenced him and the universe singular MULTIPLE times.
I'm no fool on comics. And yet, when referenced, it was a Multiversal reset that occurred. It was the Multi Eternity. When the Lt was going to hurl away the 616 Eternity and replace it with the Ultimate verse, no mention of the multiverse dying with him. Hell the Ultimate verse is part of the multiverse, this precludes that Eternity is NOT the multiverse or it's power.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This Multi-Eternity you speak of.... How many appearances does it have? Funny enough... the same arc where the term Multi Eternity appeared also called him just Eternity multiple times and referenced him and the universe singular MULTIPLE times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche

Multi-Eternity being called Eternity doesn't make it right to call regular Eternity Multi-Eternity.

Superboy-Prime has also been referred to as Superboy a few times, that doesn't make him Conner Kent.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche

Multi-Eternity being called Eternity doesn't make it right to call regular Eternity Multi-Eternity.

Superboy-Prime has also been referred to as Superboy a few times, that doesn't make him Conner Kent.

Do you even read what you wrote... IF you can call Multi-Eternty... just regular Eternity you're saying the terms are interchangeable and both are appropriate. You can't say it's okay to call Multi-Eternity.. Eternity but the inverse in incorrect. That was funny though. Further... it was just him being called Eternity MULTIPLE times but also referencing him in connection with just ONE universe MULTIPLE times.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Do you even read what you wrote... IF you can call Multi-Eternty... just regular Eternity you're saying the terms are interchangeable and both are appropriate. You can't say it's okay to call Multi-Eternity.. Eternity but the inverse in incorrect. That was funny though. Further... it was just him being called Eternity MULTIPLE times but also referencing him in connection with just ONE universe MULTIPLE times.

I'm saying that referring to Multi-Eternity as Eternity is similar to calling a sailor a 'hand'. It has no meaning beyond identification, we're not literally calling the sailor a giant sentient hand. Nor was the writer calling Multi-Eternity 616 Eternity. Only someone who wanted to see that connection would see it.

As for the Universe bit that's just wordplay, which is still all you have to back up your case. I've seen Universes referred to as 'worlds' and such plenty of times.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm saying that referring to Multi-Eternity as Eternity is similar to calling a sailor a 'hand'. It has no meaning beyond identification, we're not literally calling the sailor a giant sentient hand. Nor was the writer calling Multi-Eternity 616 Eternity. Only someone who wanted to see that connection would see it.

As for the Universe bit that's just wordplay, which is still all you have to back up your case. I've seen Universes referred to as 'worlds' and such plenty of times.

No that is you wanting to use one word when it's conveinent for you, and when its not, it's a failed connection lol. It's amusing though Omega. Well not quite at amusing as you saying Superman beats Thanos but close. Further wordplay isn't all I have, and further wordplay is narration. Which in case you didn’t know… is canon. However, "wordplay" aside… Eternity's bio makes it crystal clear…. It was the SAME Eternity in both arcs… period end of story.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No that is you wanting to use one word when it's conveinent for you, and when its not, it's a failed connection lol. It's amusing though Omega. Well not quite at amusing as you saying Superman beats Thanos but close. Further wordplay isn't all I have, and further wordplay is narration. Which in case you didn’t know… is canon. However, "wordplay" aside… Eternity's bio makes it crystal clear…. It was the SAME Eternity in both arcs… period end of story.
Of course because 616 Eternity is a part of the whole. He is not the multiverse. Even if he were, the very nature of his ever expanding reality would preclude that anything born out of him in later archs does not mean we could reverse current powers, levels, etc onto past representations.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Of course because 616 Eternity is a part of the whole. He is not the multiverse. Even if he were, the very nature of his ever expanding reality would preclude that anything born out of him in later archs does not mean we could reverse current powers, levels, etc onto past representations.

Your claiming there was a recton or a power increase for Eternity?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No that is you wanting to use one word when it's conveinent for you, and when its not, it's a failed connection lol. It's amusing though Omega. Well not quite at amusing as you saying Superman beats Thanos but close. Further wordplay isn't all I have, and further wordplay is narration. Which in case you didn’t know… is canon. However, "wordplay" aside… Eternity's bio makes it crystal clear…. It was the SAME Eternity in both arcs… period end of story.

What's amusing is you taking purple prose to be irrefutable proof of some nonexistent connection between different characters. 616 Eternity=/=Multi-Eternity no matter how many times you say it. Its as ridiculous as saying Rhode Island and the United States are one in the same and indistinguishable just because someone in Rhode Island (rightfully so) referred to his surroundings as 'America'.

As the summation of all Eternities its only natural he'd go by the name Eternity.

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ You mean a marble-sized amount of them? Apparently nothing. Just that a marble-sized amount can be manipulated.

Keep restating where I point out how you simply missed that I directly answered your question? Try catching it the first time around. No repetition would be necessary.

The projection here is reaching epic proportions. Trust me. There is no personal pride in revealing your double-standards. It isn't hard to do. Ask anybody.

Manipulating a tiny marble-sized amount of energy doesn't mean you wtfpwn a Multiverse-wide destroying/recreating blast. This is some of the worst logic I have ever seen from anyone...

... that actually mirrors the logic you're lambasting about Maelstrom's immunity. Which is why I keep bringing it up. You have forgotten again, that you are attacking your own logic. And I don't have to request that you keep it up. You fell into it utterly. And you continue to fall into it utterly.

So you believe that was the writer's intention?

No, you attempting to use a blast much later to justify what starlin's intentions were when he pitted the ig against the un is pitiful. There is no connection between the two and when a writer compared them there was no comparison at all.

It can manipulate any force with a mere thought until proven otherwise.

Surviving one blast and leaving doesn't prove you are immune. LOL.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Actually by mine and a few other peoples readings of the comic warlock one shotted them all.LT just undid the damage with a snap.

Except he did

o you won't tell me because you believe I didn't read the comic of which I don't even know which comic you are talking about?You have issues.I can give you the number of my therapist 😖hifty:

I believe it happened early on in the RKT vs. void thread.Or possibly thanos vs. spectre.Or some other thread you were trolling around in.

ODG think of it this way.Small blast<big blast.Thats how something works.IG probably can't tank the blast as I think I have stated but there are many more ways for IG to beat UN then simply tanking it.SUch as transporting the blast to the other side of the universe or stopping time so the blast can't reach them or even making the UN user use it on himself.IG>UN through versatility.

Which comic did this take place in?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What's amusing is you taking purple prose to be irrefutable proof of some nonexistent connection between different characters. 616 Eternity=/=Multi-Eternity no matter how many times you say it. Its as ridiculous as saying Rhode Island and the United States are one in the same and indistinguishable just because someone in Rhode Island (rightfully so) referred to his surroundings as 'America'.

As the summation of all Eternities its only natural he'd go by the name Eternity.

Here are the facts….

1. 616 Eternity is stated through narration and depiction to be the MAIN Eternity and the most powerful. Not just THE most important Eternity but clearly the most powerful. Fact.

2. Multi-Eternity has only been "seen" "called" such a thing one time. One stinkin time was it even alluded to as their being such a thing. Yet there is way more showings and narration making it clear 616 Eternity gives birth to all universeS and is all universeS. If there truly was a multi-Eternity why wouldn't he be the one described as that or the one doing that? Hmmmm doesn't make sense does it? A supposed Multiversal Eternity would and should be the one described as such and on more that ONE occasion. Yet that isn't the case is it? Seems to be that the 616 Eternity is much like a what a multi-eternity would be if there was one.

3. Eternity's own bio makes is clear… the SAME Eternity portrayed in the Abraxas arc is the same Eternity in the IG saga. This is canonical statement made about Eternity. Period end of story. It matters not that one had to do with a multiversal event and the other only a universe. Because that doesn't change the fact and explains why only universe was being used in one and multiverse in another. Thanos/Magus/Warlock were only concerned about the 616 Universe so of course that is the word that will be thrown around. Doesn't change the fact that it was the same Eternity. Period.

4. Lastly, trying to say the 616 IG is only universal is laughable…

A. It merged two universes together nigh instantly from a totally separate universe, something that 5 CC was taking hours to do. That feat alone makes it more than universal and that the very least multi-universal. Although when looking at all the facts it because clear it's multiversal imo. Furthermore, we've seen on panel individual gems effecting multiple universes at the same time.

B. It defeated two multiversal things with absolute ease. As stated earlier.. 616 Eternity gives birth to ALL universeS and is all universeS. Clearly 616 Eternity could be considered and is multiversal. Thanos pwnd Eternity and usurped his position with ease. Not just beat… but took over as the all and everything which is ever more impressive. Magus also pwnd and turned the nullification of a multiversal weapon back on its user. There is talk about a tiny-sphere of nullification and that somehow making it less potent. Scans or proof of the potency of nullification changing depending on the size. Ooo wait is is zero nada ziltch of this being the case. Nullification is nullification period. The scale can increase along with some aspects of scope, but nullification is nullification. We've seen death erased across ALL universes by an even small sphere of nullification proving size matters not when it comes to nullifying an object. Point is the writer makes it crystal clear which weapon is stronger… with but a GESTURE the universe most powerful weapon was turned back on its user. Quasar learns that the word ULTIMATE has little meaning in this battle. The writer couldn't have been clearer… The UN an multiversal weapon was pwnd with but a gesture. Now the IG beating either of these two multiversal things doesn't make it multiversal. However, it's just more proof along with everything else that the IG is clearly more than universal.

C. The writer again made it crystal clear that the IG makes you God of this universe and ALL universeS. That line wasn't a mistake nor a typo. It was put in there for a very clear reason… to illustrate the power of the IG and what it can effect.

D. The IG were a direct representation and embodiment of the IB which is clearly even beyond multiversal. The IB was responsible for the omniverse not just a single universe or even multiverse. It was responsible for the ENTIRE omniverse. Now, the gems didn't get just some of the IB power it ALL went into the gems. Hmmmmm we have a clear beyond multiversal being giving ALL his power to gems and yet the gems are only universal LOL. The lack of logic and reason truly amaze me sometimes on this board. Now one could argue that the power is all there BUT it probably has to take a good amount of time to acclimate oneself to said power and learn/perfect all you can. I would be fine with that and would very nicely explain why no huge multiversal feats have been shown by the IG. However, that doesn't change the inherit power it clearly has which is multiversal. The fact is any IG user has ONLY been concerned with taking over the 616 Universe as that is the main universe and from there you can effect anything and everything. That explains very nicely why we've seen the IG only being seeing doing universal things as that is all it cares about and thus what is shown. Yet, as stated earlier, that doesn't change its inherit power and what is obviously capable of.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Which comic did this take place in?
What do mean what comic?Nothing I said had anything to do with a comic besides LT reverses warlocks hissy fit.

And KT...616 eternity isn't the most powerful.Just in a crucial place.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
What do mean what comic?Nothing I said had anything to do with a comic besides LT reverses warlocks hissy fit.

And KT...616 eternity isn't the most powerful.Just in a crucial place.

false. It has been outright stated that 616 Eternity is all there is or ever will be. That was used to describe 616 Eternity. Furthermore, on panel it has been stated that 616 Eternity gives birth to ALL universeS and is all universeS. Those are just two statement making it abundantly clear he's more powerful. If all Eternity's could do this they why don't they. Why is 616 Eternity called all there was or ever will be? No other Eternity has been describe as having that kinda of broad reach or power. They are all the same.. 616 via narration and depiction is clearly more important and does thing no other Eternity seemingly can do.. thus more powerful.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
false. It has been outright stated that 616 Eternity is all there is or ever will be. That was used to describe 616 Eternity. Furthermore, on panel it has been stated that 616 Eternity gives birth to ALL universeS and is all universeS. Those are just two statement making it abundantly clear he's more powerful. If all Eternity's could do this they why don't they. Why is 616 Eternity called all there was or ever will be? No other Eternity has been describe as having that kinda of broad reach or power. They are all the same.. 616 via narration and depiction is clearly more important and does thing no other Eternity seemingly can do.. thus more powerful.
SHow scans that say 616 is the most powerful.As far as i'm aware it never said that.It said that all spand out from 616 and if 616 falls all fall.That doesn't mean 616 E is most powerful just in an important place.

616 Eternity is just that. 616 eternity.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
SHow scans that say 616 is the most powerful.As far as i'm aware it never said that.It said that all spand out from 616 and if 616 falls all fall.That doesn't mean 616 E is most powerful just in an important place.

Did you even read what I wrote? I never said it outright said 616 Eternity is the most powerful... I just quoted a few things it has said about 616 Eternity. How do you interupt being the Eternity that creates ALL universeS.. how do you explain 616 being all this is or ever was? How are those things possible and other Eternity's don't create universeS and yet 616 does and they have the same power... How is that possible.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Did you even read what I wrote? I never said it outright said 616 Eternity is the most powerful... I just quoted a few things it has said about 616 Eternity. How do you interupt being the Eternity that creates ALL universeS.. how do you explain 616 being all this is or ever was? How are those things possible and other Eternity's don't create universeS and yet 616 does and they have the same power... How is that possible.
By the logic that you created other eternitys that would imply that 616 is the most powerful eternity.From what i've heard 616 E didn't create all eternitys.Everything just spand out from there.

My favorite part is that IG fans are trying to have their cake and eat it too by claiming the IG's power source, the Infinity Being created the Marvel Omniverse and yet also claiming 616 Eternity did the same thing so as to make his defeat by the IG more impressive.

IG wins.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
What do mean what comic?Nothing I said had anything to do with a comic besides LT reverses warlocks hissy fit.

And KT...616 eternity isn't the most powerful.Just in a crucial place.

So you don't even know which comic yet continue to act like you read it.