Thanos with infinity gems vs Anti monitor

Started by Black bolt z23 pages

I'll go with ODG on this one.At least I think.I'm not sure whos on what side anymore...

616 eternity is unique in that if 616 is destroyed all will end.This however doesnt mean that 616 E is more powerful then the rest.He's just in an important spot.If you have a janga block set up and you pull one block out.It might not fall.616 eternity is no different then the other blocks he is just in a crucial position.If he falls the rest falls.Not all the other eternitys are like that.

As for the fight I believe thanos with IG wins.Here is my reasoning.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No they aren't... 😕

I'd say IG wins this.By how I read it AM was extremely powerful.Powerful enough to beat spectre.However after he did this it seemed his power was very taxed.And thats why he was weakened enough to be beat by the heroes.Thanos on the other hand beat the best the universe could throw at him and it showed nothing that would say he wasn't still at full power.It seems that the AM would need a constant supply of energy(such as the sun the the heroes destroyed so they could kill him)while thanos needs only the gauntlet.I just believe thanos has more impressive feats here and he's not going to weaken.AM would need to be near LT level to win here and I don't believe he is that.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ So you laughed at yourself. K.

You asked when they got one-shotted. I answered. Then you laughed. At yourself apparently. Maelstrom wasn't even effected in the slightest. Thanos couldn't even sense him or tell what happened. What are you jabbering about?

Thanos utterly phased to affect him or even perceive what happened. Slight difference, slick.

Now your turn to answer my question. What was his intention? The fact you will dance around this question because you know exactly what the writer's intent proves I always go by what the comics give me while you don't.

No, I laughed at you. See this is your reading comprehension again.

Nebula didn't kill any of them. She imprisoned them just like Thanos did. She didn't beat Eternity either and warlock didn't oneshot any of them. You are lying like usual. His blast was ineffectual against Eternity outside this situation so I guess when Eternity wants to be he's immune right?

He blasted him once and was confused about what happened due to him being the anomaly but to say his powers couldn't defeat or kill him based on how that arc ended and applying common sense to the ig is both ridiculous and ignorant. Odg at his finest.

Now answer my question about the un I answered yours. Quit running from it, sport.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I laughed at you. See this is your reading comprehension again.

Nebula didn't kill any of them. She imprisoned them just like Thanos did. She didn't beat Eternity either and warlock didn't oneshot any of them. You are lying like usual. His blast was ineffectual against Eternity outside this situation so I guess when Eternity wants to be he's immune right?

He blasted him once and was confused about what happened due to him being the anomaly but to say his powers couldn't defeat or kill him based on how that arc ended and applying common sense to the ig is both ridiculous and ignorant. Odg at his finest.

Now answer my question about the un I answered yours. Quit running from it, sport.

Quan your reading comprehension isn't much better....

Nebula didn't kill any of them.Warlock did oneshot them all.LT just brought them back to life

Whats that 3rd part about?

Quan you don't answer peoples questions either so stop telling people to answer yours.And if you need and example you said that batman kicked spectre,someone asked for the comic then you said your the fanboy you find out.

^ quanchi112's standards, "quandards," if you will, don't apply to him. And if and when they do, he simply pretends he never violated them with simple quaneuvering. And if he happens to admit they did apply and he was wrong, but wants to change his mind (sometimes three times even), he just pulls a lil quanchiwaffle. It's all good with the quanchilogic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I laughed at you. See this is your reading comprehension again.

Nebula didn't kill any of them. She imprisoned them just like Thanos did. She didn't beat Eternity either and warlock didn't oneshot any of them. You are lying like usual. His blast was ineffectual against Eternity outside this situation so I guess when Eternity wants to be he's immune right?

He blasted him once and was confused about what happened due to him being the anomaly but to say his powers couldn't defeat or kill him based on how that arc ended and applying common sense to the ig is both ridiculous and ignorant. Odg at his finest.

Now answer my question about the un I answered yours. Quit running from it, sport.

For answering your question which you implied I couldn't answer. Fine work there. Fine work.

You asked when any Abstracts were one-shotted. I answered. As did Warlock when he lost his temper, right before LT undid his tantrum.

Almost as stupid as arguing that slowly nullifying a tiny marble is the same thing as instantly nullifying/recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse, amirite?

The intention of a writer having a weapon user (Magus w/IG) scramble to use their weapon first before another weapon user (Quasar w/UN) could use their's? I'd say the intention was that Magus w/IG couldn't simply tank the UN's effects. Oops.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Quan your reading comprehension isn't much better....

Nebula didn't kill any of them.Warlock did oneshot them all.LT just brought them back to life

Whats that 3rd part about?

Quan you don't answer peoples questions either so stop telling people to answer yours.And if you need and example you said that batman kicked spectre,someone asked for the comic then you said your the fanboy you find out.

Warlock didn't kill any of them. If you think he did then you need an adult with you at all times.

Lt undid his damage but he didn't kill or destroy a single one of them.

You didn't read the comic so why tell you?

When did this happen?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ quanchi112's standards, "quandards," if you will, don't apply to him. And if and when they do, he simply pretends he never violated them with simple quaneuvering. And if he happens to admit they did apply and he was wrong, but wants to change his mind (sometimes three times even), he just pulls a lil quanchiwaffle. It's all good with the quanchilogic. For answering your question which you implied I couldn't answer. Fine work there. Fine work.

You asked when any Abstracts were one-shotted. I answered. As did Warlock when he lost his temper, right before LT undid his tantrum.

Almost as stupid as arguing that slowly nullifying a tiny marble is the same thing as instantly nullifying/recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse, amirite?

The intention of a writer having a weapon user (Magus w/IG) scramble to use their weapon first before another weapon user (Quasar w/UN) could use their's? I'd say the intention was that Magus w/IG couldn't simply tank the UN's effects. Oops.

Warlock didn't oneshot any of them he hurt them but they weren't beaten by any means. They were outclassed but we already knew thayt prior to Thanos even being challenged. We knew the abstracts can't beat a competent ig user.

Answer this question the one I asked you first of all. What was the writer's intent with Magus manipulating the un's energies? Did he imply it only occurred because it was very small or did he imply it's an easy task for an ig user to accomplish with a thought?

That wasn't my question anyways. See above. He didn't scramble he did so easily and effortlessly and the ig wasn't even there in full. It was missing a key gem by the by.

^ He laid em all out. You asked when they were all one-shotted. I answered.

Why wouldn't turning a marble-sized sphere against someone be easy? Thanos turned aside a tiny hex handblast of Wanda's in the hero fight. We know what an Omniversal cascade of it could do though. Heck, 5 CCU's actually prevented the UN from turning on completely.

Sorry your questions have unintended consequences. Apparently, Magus couldn't simply tank the UN's effect. Had to divert it. Oops.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ He laid em all out. You asked when they were all one-shotted. I answered.

Why wouldn't turning a marble-sized sphere against someone be easy? Thanos turned aside a tiny hex handblast of Wanda's in the hero fight. We know what an Omniversal cascade of it could do though. Heck, 5 CCU's actually prevented the UN from turning on completely.

Sorry your questions have unintended consequences. Apparently, Magus couldn't simply tank the UN's effect. Had to divert it. Oops.

No, he hurt them. He didn't oneshot any of them.

So you think had the blast been bigger according to this writer he couldn't have been able to manipulate the energies, right? Say yes and I will ask the writer and we will see whose reading comprehension is better. Up for the challenge?

That's speculation either way. My point wasn't whether he could tank it or not which I believe he can but had to do with the writer's intention on how easily or difficult manipulating the un's energies is based on the size which is your entire argument.

You can't even answer the question. Trapped, eh?

^ Yeah. They definitely were about to show Warlock what the heck was up.

How about you ask "Starlin" whether Magus made the UN shoot Quasar, whether he made Quasar shoot himself, whether he warped Quasar into the UN's area of effect. Then ask him if the IG is powerful enough to instantly destroy/recreate the entire Marvel Multiverse. Also, tell Starlin I said hi.

No, my argument is that you're insisting that the size of the UN's blast is totally irrelevant and any sized blast could be easily manipulated by the IG. But you won't insist that the size of the IG's blast is totally irrelevant and any sized blast could easily be tanked by an immune Maelstrom.

I answered your question directly. You must have missed the answer. I'm not even being sarcastic. In the meantime, choke on the quandards. Choke on em.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Yeah. They definitely were about to show Warlock what the heck was up.

How about you ask "Starlin" whether Magus made the UN shoot Quasar, whether he made Quasar shoot himself, whether he warped Quasar into the UN's area of effect. Then ask him if the IG is powerful enough to instantly destroy/recreate the entire Marvel Multiverse. Also, tell Starlin I said hi.

No, my argument is that you're insisting that the size of the UN's blast is totally irrelevant and any sized blast could be easily manipulated by the IG. But you won't insist that the size of the IG's blast is totally irrelevant and any sized blast could easily be tanked by an immune Maelstrom.

I answered your question directly. You must have missed the answer. I'm not even being sarcastic. In the meantime, choke on the quandards. Choke on em.

They were outclassed which I stated but weren't defeated. Please pay attention to what I actually write so you won't waste your time as well as my own.

So you won't answer the question. Tell you what if you answer the question I will ask him both questions.

It is irrelevant in terms of the writer's intention in the comic itself. Size was never an issue to the ig and you continually pretend it is.

Settle down.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They were outclassed which I stated but weren't defeated. Please pay attention to what I actually write so you won't waste your time as well as my own.

So you won't answer the question. Tell you what if you answer the question I will ask him both questions.

It is irrelevant in terms of the writer's intention in the comic itself. Size was never an issue to the ig and you continually pretend it is.

Settle down.

The Magus made Quasar Shoot himself. What is so hard to understand about that? No Multiversal busting UN blast were released in that arch.

^ Awww... quanchi112 begs to differ. After all... he thinks that a slowly expanding marble-sized nullification sphere = instantaneous Marvel Multiverse nullification/recreation blast! Totally the same thing! Like. Totally!

Originally posted by quanchi112
They were outclassed which I stated but weren't defeated. Please pay attention to what I actually write so you won't waste your time as well as my own.

So you won't answer the question. Tell you what if you answer the question I will ask him both questions.

It is irrelevant in terms of the writer's intention in the comic itself. Size was never an issue to the ig and you continually pretend it is.

Settle down.

Yeah, they were just about to show Warlock what for! 😱

I answered it. Even gave you some pointers. And I totally expect you to give him the whole list. In fact, before you ask him anything, go ahead and ask him if he ever actually read the Abraxas story-arc. I trust you. You are very reliable.

You're right. Size is never an issue with the IG. Which is why by that logic, Maelstrom was immune to any sized manifestation of the IG's power.

Happily watching you choke on the quandards. Will call 911 at some point. You're safe with me. peaches

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Awww... quanchi112 begs to differ. After all... he thinks that a slowly expanding marble-sized nullification sphere = instantaneous Marvel Multiverse nullification/recreation blast! Totally the same thing! Like. Totally! Yeah, they were just about to show Warlock what for! 😱

I answered it. Even gave you some pointers. And I totally expect you to give him the whole list. In fact, before you ask him anything, go ahead and ask him if he ever actually read the Abraxas story-arc. I trust you. You are very reliable.

You're right. Size is never an issue with the IG. Which is why by that logic, Maelstrom was immune to any sized manifestation of the IG's power.

Happily watching you choke on the quandards. Will call 911 at some point. You're safe with me. peaches

What does that have to do with the ig's ability to manipulate the un's energies with a mere thought?

Keep restating yourself, sport.

No, you didn't answer it. You won't ever because deep down you know I am right and you are wrong. I don't ever have to admit that to myself but you do so enjoy that.

Tanking one blast doesn't mean you are immune to the ig. This is some of the worst logic I have ever seen from anyone. Keep it up.

^ You mean a marble-sized amount of them? Apparently nothing. Just that a marble-sized amount can be manipulated.

Keep restating where I point out how you simply missed that I directly answered your question? Try catching it the first time around. No repetition would be necessary.

The projection here is reaching epic proportions. Trust me. There is no personal pride in revealing your double-standards. It isn't hard to do. Ask anybody.

Manipulating a tiny marble-sized amount of energy doesn't mean you wtfpwn a Multiverse-wide destroying/recreating blast. This is some of the worst logic I have ever seen from anyone...

... that actually mirrors the logic you're lambasting about Maelstrom's immunity. Which is why I keep bringing it up. You have forgotten again, that you are attacking your own logic. And I don't have to request that you keep it up. You fell into it utterly. And you continue to fall into it utterly.

lmfao.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Warlock didn't kill any of them. If you think he did then you need an adult with you at all times.

Lt undid his damage but he didn't kill or destroy a single one of them.

You didn't read the comic so why tell you?

When did this happen?

Warlock didn't oneshot any of them he hurt them but they weren't beaten by any means. They were outclassed but we already knew thayt prior to Thanos even being challenged. We knew the abstracts can't beat a competent ig user.

Answer this question the one I asked you first of all. What was the writer's intent with Magus manipulating the un's energies? Did he imply it only occurred because it was very small or did he imply it's an easy task for an ig user to accomplish with a thought?

That wasn't my question anyways. See above. He didn't scramble he did so easily and effortlessly and the ig wasn't even there in full. It was missing a key gem by the by.

Actually by mine and a few other peoples readings of the comic warlock one shotted them all.LT just undid the damage with a snap.

Except he did

o you won't tell me because you believe I didn't read the comic of which I don't even know which comic you are talking about?You have issues.I can give you the number of my therapist 😖hifty:

I believe it happened early on in the RKT vs. void thread.Or possibly thanos vs. spectre.Or some other thread you were trolling around in.

ODG think of it this way.Small blast<big blast.Thats how something works.IG probably can't tank the blast as I think I have stated but there are many more ways for IG to beat UN then simply tanking it.SUch as transporting the blast to the other side of the universe or stopping time so the blast can't reach them or even making the UN user use it on himself.IG>UN through versatility.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
👆 Then what exactly are we arguing about here? Thanos didn't defeat an embodiment of the Marvel Multiverse. He just beat an embodiment of the 616 universe. That's it. Again using the term, "universe," the way YOU want to, without admitting that the term has been used to connote pocket dimensions, realms, etc. You're reverse-projecting the clear multiversality that is painstakingly and COMPLETELY evident in Abraxas and trying to repaint what happened in Infinity Gauntlet/War, WHICH WAS UNIVERSALLY RELEVANT. That's clear. That's immutable. That's obvious. And your incessant reliance on handbooks? We all know what you yourself think of that when other people try to use it against you.

Master owned up the butt. 😂

Why do people keep saying all Eternity's are the same? This isn't true in the least. They AREN'T the same size at all and this is made clear via narration and depiction. If all Eternity's are the same then why is 616 responsible for the creation of all universeS? If they all could do it why wouldn't they? I know because 616 Eternity is the most powerful of all and the most important. Some people concede the most important point but not the most powerful when this evident via canon Marvel comics.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Why do people keep saying all Eternity's are the same? This isn't true in the least. They AREN'T the same size at all and this is made clear via narration and depiction. If all Eternity's are the same then why is 616 responsible for the creation of all universeS? If they all could do it why wouldn't they? I know because 616 Eternity is the most powerful of all and the most important. Some people concede the most important point but not the most powerful when this evident via canon Marvel comics.
Most Powerful still wouldn't nake it as powerful as the Multi Eternity

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Most Powerful still wouldn't nake it as powerful as the Multi Eternity

This Multi-Eternity you speak of.... How many appearances does it have? Funny enough... the same arc where the term Multi Eternity appeared also called him just Eternity multiple times and referenced him and the universe singular MULTIPLE times.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Why do people keep saying all Eternity's are the same? This isn't true in the least. They AREN'T the same size at all and this is made clear via narration and depiction. If all Eternity's are the same then why is 616 responsible for the creation of all universeS? If they all could do it why wouldn't they? I know because 616 Eternity is the most powerful of all and the most important. Some people concede the most important point but not the most powerful when this evident via canon Marvel comics.

Him being "most powerful" Eternity wouldn't in of itself be impressive seeing as alternate Eternities have even less feats than he does.

This asinine synecdochic identification of 616 Eternity as Multi-Eternity is just a self-serving conceit cooked up by Marvel Cosmic fanboys to project Multiversal significance and power to a Universal artifact like the Infinity Gauntlet.