Thanos with infinity gems vs Anti monitor

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you believe that was the writer's intention?

No, you attempting to use a blast much later to justify what starlin's intentions were when he pitted the ig against the un is pitiful. There is no connection between the two and when a writer compared them there was no comparison at all.

It can manipulate any force with a mere thought until proven otherwise.

Surviving one blast and leaving doesn't prove you are immune. LOL.

You're right. There is absolutely no connection between a slowly expanding marble-sized sphere and an instantaneous Multiverse-wide destroying/recreating blast. Good job punctuating my point.

No-limit fallacy combined with negative proof fallacy don't cancel each other out to make a positive argument. You just combined two different kinds of stupid in the same argument.

Manipulting a tiny marble-sized sphere doesn't prove you can manipulate a Multiverse-wide destruction/recreation blast. LOL.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
As much as it was the writer's intention to make Maelstrom look completely immune to the IG.

You're right. There is absolutely no connection between a slowly expanding marble-sized sphere and an instantaneous Multiverse-wide destroying/recreating blast. Good job punctuating my point.

No-limit fallacy combined with negative proof fallacy don't cancel each other out to make a positive argument. You just combined two different kinds of stupid in the same argument.

Manipulting a tiny marble-sized sphere doesn't prove you can manipulate a Multiverse-wide destruction/recreation blast. LOL.

The size makes no difference the energies can be manipulated either way.

You can distance yourself from the comic as much as you like but you still know I am right.

The intention was clear and you can't prove that blast couldn't be manipulated as well.

^ Manipulating a marble-sized sphere doesn't equal absolute control over all scales/types of power that the UN can emit and if Maelstrom being immune was the writer's intention, then you'd kill yourself.

The size makes no difference the energies can be resisted either way then by your quanchilogic.

You can distance yourself from the comic as much as you like but you still know I am right.

The intention was clear and you can't prove that the IG's full power couldn't be resisted as well.

Let's face it, Thanos w/IG utterly pwned Scarlet Witch's tiny handblast of hex power, he's going to utterly pwn the Omniversal Chaos Wave? Get your phail double-standards quanchilogic outta here. Using double-standard, no-limit, and negative proof fallacies is stupid is, as stupid does. You should cease making liberal use of them, quanchi112.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Manipulating a marble-sized sphere doesn't equal absolute control over all scales/types of power that the UN can emit and if Maelstrom being immune was the writer's intention, then you'd kill yourself.

The size makes no difference the energies can be resisted either way then by your quanchilogic.

You can distance yourself from the comic as much as you like but you still know I am right.

The intention was clear and you can't prove that the IG's full power couldn't be resisted as well.

Let's face it, Thanos w/IG utterly pwned Scarlet Witch's tiny handblast of hex power, he's going to utterly pwn the Omniversal Chaos Wave? Get your phail double-standards quanchilogic outta here. Using double-standard, no-limit, and negative proof fallacies is stupid is, as stupid does. You should cease making liberal use of them, quanchi112.

The writer made it clear yet you still won't accept it because you only care about being right even though you know I am.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you don't even know which comic yet continue to act like you read it.

OMG did this turn into another IG vs. UN debate....again.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Manipulating a marble-sized sphere doesn't equal absolute control over all scales/types of power that the UN can emit and if Maelstrom being immune was the writer's intention, then you'd kill yourself.

The size makes no difference the energies can be resisted either way then by your quanchilogic.

You can distance yourself from the comic as much as you like but you still know I am right.

The intention was clear and you can't prove that the IG's full power couldn't be resisted as well.

Let's face it, Thanos w/IG utterly pwned Scarlet Witch's tiny handblast of hex power, he's going to utterly pwn the Omniversal Chaos Wave? Get your phail double-standards quanchilogic outta here. Using double-standard, no-limit, and negative proof fallacies is stupid is, as stupid does. You should cease making liberal use of them, quanchi112.

The size of the blast doesn't matter when dealing with the versitility of the IG.Way the IG can best UN
1: Make it so UN makes everything it touches turn to bubbles or even make it not work at all
2: Stop time and take the UN away before the user fires it.
3: Teleport the blast to another universe
4: My understanding of the UN is that whatever it touches it nullifies.Even if it touched LT it would nullfy him.It's just a matter if they can manipulate it's energies or escape once they are nullified.If UN nullifies LT oblivion can't keep LT in his realm.So it's possible IG can just tank the blast then leave oblivion.

You use good logic but IMO you are wrong on the final result.

IG's full power couldn't be resisted by what?

At that point didn't wanda just have hex and not reality manip?IMO he could counteractit the same way he could UN.IMO both UN and HOM wanda>IG in sheer power but IG beats both due to large level versitility.

Anti monitor

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Infinity watch #1.Get a life instead on insulting others.

OMG did this turn into another IG vs. UN debate....again.

No it doesn't equte but the IG was able to effortlessly control that piece of the UN'd energies.And thats without the reality gem.

The size of the blast doesn't matter when dealing with the versitility of the IG.Way the IG can best UN
1: Make it so UN makes everything it touches turn to bubbles or even make it not work at all
2: Stop time and take the UN away before the user fires it.
3: Teleport the blast to another universe
4: My understanding of the UN is that whatever it touches it nullifies.Even if it touched LT it would nullfy him.It's just a matter if they can manipulate it's energies or escape once they are nullified.If UN nullifies LT oblivion can't keep LT in his realm.So it's possible IG can just tank the blast then leave oblivion.

You use good logic but IMO you are wrong on the final result.

IG's full power couldn't be resisted by what?

At that point didn't wanda just have hex and not reality manip?IMO he could counteractit the same way he could UN.IMO both UN and HOM wanda>IG in sheer power but IG beats both due to large level versitility.

Originally posted by Joker793
Anti monitor

Same way he destroyed infinite universes

Originally posted by quanchi112
It said the ig can manipulate the energies of the un. The writer made this very clear. Accept, learn, and grow from my time spent on this board.

The writer made it clear yet you still won't accept it because you only care about being right even though you know I am.

I'm only interested in exposing your double-standard here. I can accept that you think the IG > UN based on Infinity War, so long as you accept that Maelstrom w/ Anomaly > Thanos w/ IG. Drop the double-standard. But we all know you'd kill yourself first.

Frankly, if Magus shot a tiny expanding marble-sized fireball and shot one purposely that size because he was afraid of unleashing its full power AND didn't even know that an active UN was present -- and Reed nullified that tiny marble-sized fireball... does that automatically mean Reed can nullify any size/permutation of the IG's power? Hellz no. But that's the quanchilogic you rely on. Phail.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It didn't say that. That is but one of several possibilities that could have occurred. Other's being Magus forced Quasar to shoot himself, Magus teleported Quasar into the nullification sphere, etc. But even granting your premise, the writer only portrayed Mgus w/ IG > Quasar w/ UN. You insisting that the IG could manipulate any size/type blast is particularly embarassing when Maelstrom was all but portrayed as utterly immune and outside the IG's power/prescience.

I'm only interested in exposing your double-standard here. I can accept that you think the IG > UN based on Infinity War, so long as you accept that Maelstrom w/ Anomaly > Thanos w/ IG. Drop the double-standard. But we all know you'd kill yourself first.

Frankly, if Magus shot a tiny expanding marble-sized fireball and shot one purposely that size because he was afraid of unleashing its full power AND didn't even know that an active UN was present -- and Reed nullified that tiny marble-sized fireball... does that automatically mean Reed can nullify any size/permutation of the IG's power? Hellz no. But that's the quanchilogic you rely on. Phail.

Maelstrom was never ever greater than the ig nor did he prove so. You are reaching like always.

Once you figure out what it is the gems are capable of then you will realize the un cannot ever defeat a ig user.

^ Like how Thanos saw his blast would be completely impotent against Maelstrom, amirite? Like how Nebula saw that Warlock would sabotage her from within the Soul Gem, amirite?

IG was never ever greater than the UN nor did he prove so. You are reaching like always.

Once you actually read Abraxas, and are done changing your mind from "this is right" to "no, wait, I'm wrong this is actually right" to "no, wait, I was wrong again, this is actually really right" and again... you will realize that the UN proved to be exponentially more powerful than the IG. Straight up. Get over it. Your double-standards don't prove the contrary. They only reveal your ignorance. Your deflections about usefulness in a fight don't diminish my position that powerwise, UN >>>>>>>>>>>> IG. They only highlight your petulance. Just. Get. Over. It.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Like how Thanos saw his blast would be completely impotent against Maelstrom, amirite? Like how Nebula saw that Warlock would sabotage her from within the Soul Gem, amirite?

IG was never ever greater than the UN nor did he prove so. You are reaching like always.

Once you actually read Abraxas, and are done changing your mind from "this is right" to "no, wait, I'm wrong this is actually right" to "no, wait, I was wrong again, this is actually really right" and again... you will realize that the UN proved to be exponentially more powerful than the IG. Straight up. Get over it. Your double-standards don't prove the contrary. They only reveal your ignorance. Your deflections about usefulness in a fight don't diminish my position that powerwise, UN >>>>>>>>>>>> IG. They only highlight your petulance. Just. Get. Over. It.

In the same story and through the interview posted it was nothing compared to the ig.

People change their minds get over it. Ig wins this thread and if you want some more pain bump the proper thread and come get some.

Ig>>un powerwise on panel comparison.

One marble-sized sphere being manipulated and having absolute control over all amounts/permutations are two different things. I hope you unerstand that.

In the same story and through handbooks Thanos w/IG was utterly impotent against Maelstrom.

People change their minds, and again, and again, and again... get over that you did it. IG ain't crap to the Anti-Monitor because you wish to reverse-project the UN's multiversal power onto the IG when the IG only dealt with a marble-sized sphere. I'm not bumping the various threads where you embarassed yourself time and time again. You can feel free to do so.

IG>>marble-sized sphere of UN powerwise on panel comparison. And if you refuse to believe that, then by your inept quanchilogic, Maelstrom>>IG on panel comparison (rather than Maelstrom>>small IG handblast on panel comparison). Deal with your bumbling reliance on double-standards.

Do I have to get involved in this debate AGAIN and post stuff that are 100% true? Honestly, the IG through narration and depiction was shown very clearly by the writer to be superior weapon in a one v one matchup. Period an end of story. Saying otherwise defies logic and basic reading comprehension of a very clear story.

^ Try letting the UN user take the first shot and have the IG-user be completely unaware of an activated UN and he shoots out a tiny pea-sized fireball that slowly floats towards the UN user's location inside a building (if he even manages to before getting instantly nullified).

Yeah, I'm sure when that tiny pea-sized fireball gets ultimately nullified, you'll be singing the UN's praises for being "such the superior weapon in a one v one matchup."

Right. It's called context. And my argument with quanchi112 is about the UN's exponentially greater scope of power.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
One marble-sized sphere being manipulated and having absolute control over all amounts/permutations are two different things. I hope you unerstand that.

In the same story and through handbooks Thanos w/IG was utterly impotent against Maelstrom.

People change their minds, and again, and again, and again... get over that you did it. IG ain't crap to the Anti-Monitor because you wish to reverse-project the UN's multiversal power onto the IG when the IG only dealt with a marble-sized sphere. I'm not bumping the various threads where you embarassed yourself time and time again. You can feel free to do so.

IG>>marble-sized sphere of UN powerwise on panel comparison. And if you refuse to believe that, then by your inept quanchilogic, Maelstrom>>IG on panel comparison (rather than Maelstrom>>small IG handblast on panel comparison). Deal with your bumbling reliance on double-standards.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Do I have to get involved in this debate AGAIN and post stuff that are 100% true? Honestly, the IG through narration and depiction was shown very clearly by the writer to be superior weapon in a one v one matchup. Period an end of story. Saying otherwise defies logic and basic reading comprehension of a very clear story.

^ Your inability to come to grips with your double-standards has everything to do with your reasoning. You make a bald-faced statement that the IG > UN, when the UN is clearly a multiversal power of high order. Of course, the only thing that actually happened in the story they both appeared was IG > UN's marble-sized sphere. And this is the feat you're trying to use to make your argument that the Anti-Monitor loses to the IG? Idiocy.

It's like people arguing that Doom beats MJJ because one time he turned off noob Wanda's hex power back in the day... which means he could just turn off the Omniversal Chaos Wave and therefore, he beats MJJ. Idiocy.

What don't you get about how embarassing your arguments are? Stop ignoring context selectively.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Your inability to come to grips with your double-standards has everything to do with your reasoning. You make a bald-faced statement that the IG > UN, when the UN is clearly a multiversal power of high order. Of course, the only thing that actually happened in the story they both appeared was IG > UN's marble-sized sphere. And this is the feat you're trying to use to make your argument that the Anti-Monitor loses to the IG? Idiocy.

It's like people arguing that Doom beats MJJ because one time he turned off noob Wanda's hex power back in the day... which means he could just turn off the Omniversal Chaos Wave and therefore, he beats MJJ. Idiocy.

What don't you get about how embarassing your arguments are? Stop ignoring context selectively.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It didn't say that. That is but one of several possibilities that could have occurred. Other's being Magus forced Quasar to shoot himself, Magus teleported Quasar into the nullification sphere, etc. But even granting your premise, the writer only portrayed Mgus w/ IG > Quasar w/ UN. You insisting that the IG could manipulate any size/type blast is particularly embarassing when Maelstrom was all but portrayed as utterly immune and outside the IG's power/prescience.

I'm only interested in exposing your double-standard here. I can accept that you think the IG > UN based on Infinity War, so long as you accept that Maelstrom w/ Anomaly > Thanos w/ IG. Drop the double-standard. But we all know you'd kill yourself first.

Frankly, if Magus shot a tiny expanding marble-sized fireball and shot one purposely that size because he was afraid of unleashing its full power AND didn't even know that an active UN was present -- and Reed nullified that tiny marble-sized fireball... does that automatically mean Reed can nullify any size/permutation of the IG's power? Hellz no. But that's the quanchilogic you rely on. Phail.

I'm not saying the IG could manipluate any size of it's energies but there are many ways to stop UN before it is even fired.Or simply tank the blast and then leave as I have said before.

But see that IG wasn't a manifrstation of IG's true power.Same for UN but the only difference was size.It wouldn't nullify it to a greater extent.And if you include the reality gem it could even make it so it just made everything it touched turn to bubbles or even make it do nothing.

A tiny expanding ball of what?IG's power?Thats not even how it works.Thats how UN's powers work not IG's.And UN can be defeated by UN in many different ways.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's the thread derailer. That's all he does anymore. They weren't killed so now your reading comprehension comes into play here. How?

thanos wins