The Force Unleashed II

Started by Gideon16 pages

Why do you all hate Marek again?

His character is unnecessary to the evolution of the Star Wars plot and pointlessly overpowered?

^ Elaborate.

You don't need a Vader secret apprentice to explain the Rebel Alliance being formed. It was already being formed in 19 BBY. And you certainly don't need a five year old powerful enough to rip the lightsaber out of Darth Vader's hands. Especially with zero explanation as to how someone with a bloodline of presumably no consequence is powerful enough to destroy TIE fighters with the Force alone.

Maybe this new CLONE DEVELOPMENT will explain that each clone is raised in a vat of midichlorians. Marek is so powerful because he is some kind of evil experiment gone horribly awryright.

Originally posted by Gideon
^ Elaborate.
TFU became stupid as soon as there was the idea that someone who has spent the majority of his life as a sith, can just turn his back on the dark side.

Eminence covered that well enough IMHO. Marek wasn't a Sith, he was a pawn. To my knowledge, he wasn't evil, he was a tool of evil.

Originally posted by Gideon
Eminence covered that well enough IMHO. Marek wasn't a Sith, he was a pawn. To my knowledge, he wasn't evil, he was a tool of evil.

Regardless, he spent the majority of his life following the dark side, and he switched sides almost as fast as Anakin did, with nearly a decade more on Anakin. Vader may have been a lousy teacher but he definitely made Marek tap into his rage and hatred and all that crap. It was a poorly designed plot.

I don't hate him, I find him completely unnecessary. He's a good character who for many reasons could have been put to better use in a different time period.

I think Marek is awesome. We need more insanely powerful and enormous potential Jedi/Sith that are not descended of the Skywalker line, especially in the era around the Classic Trilogy. Let's be honest. Can you really imagine that in an entire galaxy, there aren't individuals who were never trained, young and old, yet have the potential to challenge the Skywalker dynasty in terms of Force potential?

Yes, if such potential presences in the Force existed, they could be found, as when Vader was drawn to Kashyyyk by Marek's Force signature (the son, not the father). But what about the countless worlds outside the Empire/Republic? (Kashyyyk was Mid Rim, not that far from Coruscant relative to Outer Rim worlds). Not even Luke Skywalker or Sidious could sense every Force-sensitive. And don't forget that someone like Yoda could hide on Dagobah due to the abundant life there.

Realistically though, GLucas just wanted to create a fun game that could sell like hotcakes (which the first one did). In order for it to be fun, and especially with today's console graphics, you need super-powerful Jedi on steroids to truly enjoy the game.

I think in order to appease the Luke Skywalker fans, they could remake the Classic Trilogy video games (blasphemy!)

Eminence
He's a good character who for many reasons could have been put to better use in a different time period.

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No one cares about any other time period but the movies and what's in between. Starkiller's there because most of the real powerhouses (and the ones who matter) are in this period.

I personally believe a RPG/Level based Game about the general Skywalker Bloodline would sell easily, you play events from Skywalkers points of view, different characters could have different abilites etc. It would be epic.

Originally posted by Gideon
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No one cares about any other time period but the movies and what's in between. Starkiller's there because most of the real powerhouses (and the ones who matter) are in this period.

I personally care about everything BUT the movies and the time period between them.🙂

But you are no one in the grand scheme of things. Movie period >>>>> post-movie period >>>>>> pre-movie period.

If people did care about the other two in any true sense, then we wouldn't now just be making forays into non-movie territory.

Originally posted by Gideon
But you are no one in the grand scheme of things. Movie period >>>>> post-movie period >>>>>> pre-movie period.

If people did care about the other two in any true sense, then we wouldn't now just be making forays into non-movie territory.

Maybe I'm just tired today because I don't understand what that means although I can see it's simple as hell. The fact that people are concerned about something OTHER than the actual movies is the reason the EU is ever expanding, with new books being shitted out by the dozens and an MMO game, porno, etc.

What I'm saying here is that the majority of the EU is centered around the movies or act as results of the movies. Which is why there is comparatively nothing on the pre-movie universe. Which is why the in-universe dates are BBY, which is why post-RotJ EU focuses on Luke, Han, and Leia and not original characters.

Everything about Star Wars, from the in-universe material to the company's own canon structure, emphasizes from the get go that the movies are by far the most important pieces to the mythos.

Everything else is trivial in comparison.

That may not be true for some of us, but it is true in numbers, sales, and impact.

Which is why there is comparatively nothing on the pre-movie universe

Not sure I understand this one as well. There's a LOT of pre-movie crap.

"Comparatively nothing."

Originally posted by Gideon
Why do you all hate Marek again?
An unessential character to the SWU imo.

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An unessential character to the SWU imo.

Essential? I suppose if you really get down to it, you only need Anakin and Palpatine for the story (the Chosen One and the imbalance), and maybe Obi-Wan Kenobi and Luke.