The Revenge of the Sith script depicts Palpatine hurling Windu across his office with a Force push; the novelization depicts Palpatine nearly hurling Windu out the window with one as well.
Vaapad is not some sort of catch-all effect that makes Windu superior to every dark side Force user, otherwise those incidents would never have happened.
Originally posted by Gideon
Vaapad's not the end all be all, otherwise Windu would triumph over every dark sider (which he hasn't): he was unable to slaughter Dooku on Boz Pity and he lost to Vastor and admitted inferiority to him in Shatterpoint.
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Originally posted by GideonTrue. However, Mace even stated that before RotS he had never fully embraced the darkness (due to a self-imposed fear of it), thus he'd never fully been able to immerse himself in Vaapad.
Vaapad's not the end all be all, otherwise Windu would triumph over every dark sider (which he hasn't): he was unable to slaughter Dooku on Boz Pity and he lost to Vastor and admitted inferiority to him in Shatterpoint.
ie. his battle with Sidious was the only time Vaapad had ever been used to it's best.
As mentioned before, the Revenge of the Sith screenplay depicts Palpatine overpowering Windu and hurling him across the office with telekinesis (the novelization features a similar scene). Vaapad is not going to protect him against all concentrated efforts from a superior Force user, no matter how deep he's in.
Pretending otherwise has no factual basis and is, quite frankly, silly.
Originally posted by Gideon
Who said this?
Originally posted by kodiak430
Obi Wan defeated vader in the movie, therefore he will do it again.
Mareks superior force abilities will allow him to destroy windu.
So it comes down to Obi Wan and Marek... not that complicated
Originally posted by SonOfTheSuns
I agree that Marek would defeat Windu through the Force. The only reason Mace beat Palps was because Palps felt Anakin through the Force, and wanted to make him Vader.As for Obi, and Vader it depends on where they are fighting. In ROTS Vader had Obi beat, and Obi jumped up on the hill. Vader became overconfident and that led to him getting dismembered. If it was in Geonosis Arena, or someplace like that, then Obi would die.
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That was easy. That was just from the page before.. I'm sure there is more.... Now, responses like these make me go WTF
Originally posted by Gideon
As mentioned before, the Revenge of the Sith screenplay depicts Palpatine overpowering Windu and hurling him across the office with telekinesis (the novelization features a similar scene).
Originally posted by Gideon
Wrong, it isn't canon. And if my word alone isn't good enough (which it is), there's the simple fact that it doesn't fit in with the rest of the movie, script, or novelization.
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