Originally posted by quanchi112
He only used the trifroce through luck in this game and passively activated it. This is a different Dorf and you're continued crying about it won't change the fact it's a different dorf. The funnest part is hardcore fans of the series who have theorized it say the timeline splits which means alternate realities.
Contradiction. You cannot "passively activate" something, as the two terms are opposite by definition. It's either passive or active, and the Triforce of Power is proven to be passive since Ganondorf doesn't have to do anything. Further, nothing you said changes the fact that the Triforce of Power is always the same, regardless of the reality.
He was moving his molecules around in different forms he wasn't in any real danger until his dorf form was injured. The game supports this.
But he was not reduced to molecules by his own will, nor did he intentionally set his Ganon body on fire. The game supports that Ganondorf was severely injured each time yet still got back up, until the Master Sword managed to cancel his power.
He loses life when Zant moves his head meaning he abandoned his weak ruler as he was a failure. Nowhere in this game does it state the master sword cut off his powers. Sorry.
It's obvious you hate Ganondorf, but please try to be civil, okay? Now, can you prove this? We don't know what Zant did exactly, and your assumptions aren't helping. Zant was dead at this time, if you remember. That scene was symbolic, if anything.
Wow. It's a gameplay thing in a forum fight you can't get your head cut off four times and keep fighting. In the gameplay you cannot kill him until you defeat the boss stages and that's like saying Kain can't be hurt by Raziel until the second or third time he fights him because that's how it plays it in a cinema. Use your head.
But don't you see that Ganondorf can come back quickly even if killed? The canon cutscenes show that Ganondorf can keep fighting even when his entire body is destroyed, so getting his head cut off would be nothing. He'll simply come back as either Beast Ganon, God Ganon, or he'll reform another body as he is shown to do in cutscene. According to the cutscenes, not gameplay, Ganondorf can do this up to four times before dying.
Nowhere in top does it state the master sword stops dorf's power from working he fought him for a long time and was defeated he wasn't cut off from his power during the fight he lost when Zant abandoned him.
It is the Blade of Evil's Bane, specializing in The Power to Repel Evil. Just titles, yes, but also a description of what it does. The Master Sword has always had this power even since its first appearance and in all subsequent ones. It's repeatedly shown to have an adverse effect on twilight/evil and all things related to it. The Guardian Dieties of the Twilight Realm even empowered it further with the Sols.
You realize that you're arguing Ganondorf can't be killed unless Zant wants him to, right? Again, Zant was dead, can you prove he actually did anything beyond some obsure symbolism?
Kain wasn't meant to die he was meant to restore vampire guardianship. You need to play these games and actually focus on what his mission is as opposed to one scene with Raziel.
You are now arguing against the canon itself. That "one scene" consists of Kain repeatedly saying that he is destined to die right there, and it's even proven when Raziel starts trying to kill him against his will. This point isn't even relevant, it's just me arguing against your blatant Zelda hate.
If you claim you know the series it's obvious then. Kain is fated to restore vampire guardianship not die as the last vampire. I haven't played these games and beat them in years yet you claim you are watching the vids now and still missed this theme over and over again.
He was destined to die. As I recall, Raziel was the Redeemer and Destroyer, both the Vampire and Hylden Champions. Kain isn't the Vampire's savior; Raziel is. Kain just needs to die.
Yes, the sages beat him easily. They tied him up, stabbed him, he even had the triforce of power and they still bfr'd him easily only losing one man against someone backed by the triforce of power. That's called a beatdown.
No, they didn't, can you prove that statement? The Sages said that he was captured, not that they did it, nor did they mention how easily it was done. In fact, the evidence points to the fact that he was considered highly dangerous. Do you remember how the Arbiter's Grounds was a place meant for the worst criminals Hyrule had to offer, and Ganondorf was sent there? Do you realize how important the Sages are, and how high profile Ganondorf would have to be for all seven of them to see to him personally?
The rest of that point has already been addressed. Ganondorf knew they couldn't hurt him and only the killed his executioner. He wasn't even trying to kill the rest of them. The BFR, and the entirety of that scene, was nothing but PIS. And if you remember, it's a flashback that doesn't reflect the current Ganondorf. Regardless, the Hylden Lord couldn't replicate any part of that, exept for maybe a stab that Ganondorf will revive from.
No he wasn't. Dorf said he will love through him so he did what he wanted. Nowhere does it say he follows his orders he just lived on through him as his avatar.
Ganondorf was living through him. Did you not notice that Zant's personality did a complete 180 later in the game? In the beginning, Zant was cold, calculating, and terrifying. Then came the confrontation, where Zant says that Ganondorf has already been reborn. After that, Zant is a raving lunatic, just as he was before Ganondorf's influence. Ganondorf possessed him, it looks like.
The vampires have no strength feats or speed feats.😂 😂
They don't.
You live in your own world then don't you? They unlike Link have them. Ripping out a heart is much more impressive than beating up a sumo guy with added weight. They actually say Kain is stronger, faster, can jump farther than any man while no athletic distinction is ever made in favor of Link. He's a guy who struggles to lift a weapon with both hands.
Those are Kain's feats, not the feats of vampires in general. Thus, Kain has a few feats, but the vampires have none. Gorons, on the other hand, have plenty, as do the Shadow Beasts. You're just hating on Zelda, latching on to one low showing like it's the only thing Link has done. It's entirely pointless, as you're in the wrong thread. This is Ganondorf vs. the Hylden Lord.
Kain has the sarafan wanting him dead, vampire hunters, the hylden, raziel at one point, the eg, william the just, the other corrupted guardians, his former vampire allies, etc. Dorf just opposes Link and hyrule which can be decimated by one lone dragon. It's the weakest realm I have ever seen.
Ganondorf has the Gorons, Zoras, Hylians, and Twili wanting him dead. What lone dragon? If you're referring to Volvagia, that isn't Twilight Princess. Please follow your own rules. I don't know which games you're talking about for Kain, but I doubt all of it is Defiance. Oh, wait, wrong thread. Again, follow your own rules, please.
Dorf lost twice in the game. He didn't win anything. He came out of nowhere got beat, showed back up, and got beat again. He had the triforce of power and still lost to the sages no master sword. The guy's a bum and is destined to failure and short life cycles.
Why do you hate Ganondorf? It's really sad, he's such a good villain and you just treat him like crap. And you used to think so highly of him. Until I disagreed with you, off course.
As for your post, Ganondorf defeated Link while "living through" Zant, and brought Hyrule to its knees. The Sages used PIS and an honest to god plot device to win. They could not possibly have killed him. Had Ganondorf not held back, they all would have died. You're still just latching on to one low showing and treating it like it's how Ganondorf is all the time when it isn't. You really don't know the character, so why must you blindly hate him?
Kain left the eg but he wasn't defeated unlike Dorf who was killed like trash. eg lived on and was barely effected by a fully combined reaver while dorf sat there and died like he was nothing.
Again with the blind hatred. Did you forget that it took four boss fights, with various cutscenes depicting Ganondorf being revived or reforming, followed by being stabbed with his only weakness, which prevented his powers from working, to kill him? And yes, the Elder God was barely affected, that's why he was constantly screaming in pain and growing so desperate as to collapse the room. This isn't relevant to the Hylden Lord.
Kain was healed by Raziel before he fought eg I have no idea why you bring up the demon realm it has nothing to do with anything.
It isn't relevant to the Hylden Lord, but the demon realm kept Kain from dying from his obviously fatal wound.