Originally posted by BloodRain
Its like a pattern. Scenario, BT, Scenario, cheerleaders, BT etc..Question, do we know that Zant's powers are Ganon's powers or did he get powers because of Ganon?
ALL of Zant's powers come directly from Ganon's own.
Am not cheerleader, actually partake in debate when I get bored enough to feed BT.
Is there somewhere where its said that its actually Ganons own powers and not just powers he got. Because if you ask me Zant uses TK, teleporting and Twili.. stuff, the about the same as what Midna does, probably the same as what adult-Midna can do. Like they were his dormant/natural powers for what he is.
Would it help if I assigned you head cheerleader? Was just interesting to see walls of text being broken up by compliments of all things.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
ALL of Zant's powers come directly from Ganon's own.Am not cheerleader, actually partake in debate when I get bored enough to feed BT.
Which is the same as I said to you, your a parrot, an annoying one at best, this baiting of me is not necessery when a mature debate is trying to take please. Would you kindly leave us to it? 😛
Originally posted by BloodRain
Is there somewhere where its said that its actually Ganons own powers and not just powers he got. Because if you ask me Zant uses TK, teleporting and Twili.. stuff, the about the same as what Midna does, probably the same as what adult-Midna can do. Like they were his dormant/natural powers for what he is.Would it help if I assigned you head cheerleader? Was just interesting to see walls of text being broken up by compliments of all things.
Thats what I was also reckoning, I find it hard to belive that Midna is the only one with twili power when Zant has similiar powers shown.
Originally posted by BloodRainIt's directly stated in game Zant was denied the powers of the ruler of the twili. Midna is the only one with her powers, because only the ruler gets them, and he wasn't crowned ruler. Hence his freak out, and why he tells Midna, also stated directly on screen, that his magic is not their tribe's weak magic.
Is there somewhere where its said that its actually Ganons own powers and not just powers he got. Because if you ask me Zant uses TK, teleporting and Twili.. stuff, the about the same as what Midna does, probably the same as what adult-Midna can do. Like they were his dormant/natural powers for what he is.Would it help if I assigned you head cheerleader? Was just interesting to see walls of text being broken up by compliments of all things.
And believe me, I've spent enough time posting at BT to recognise he'll just ignore it all anyway.
Scenario: 50 solid minutes of evidence.
BT: 30 seconds of denial and a bowl of soup.
Originally posted by BloodRainNah, man. It's legit stated flat out to not be Twili magic at all, on screen. 😐 Midna at one point suggests something similar and is rebuked by Zant who calls Twili magic weak.
By the things said its implied by both Zant and Midna that his powers are very similar to Tili's powers, in that its familiar and even reminds Midna of their power.Seems as if its not actually Ganon's own power.
That got me in the mood for soup..
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Nah, man. It's legit stated flat out to not be Twili magic at all, on screen. 😐 Midna at one point suggests something similar and is rebuked by Zant who calls Twili magic weak.
All of Zant's power comes directly from Ganondorf. There's a scene dedicated to that too.
Zant confirms it is not Twili magic:
YouTube video
1:30
"How dare you!? Are you implying that my power is our... Old magic?"
Zant also confirms with the "our Old magic" that twili magic does exist as another unique power that more than just one twili may use. Otherwise why would he say "our"?
The same source of power does not always equel the same effect, put electricity into a toaster it can make bread into toast, put it in the computer and it lets you display my vast quantiies of evidence smothering my opposition. Same source, electricity, two different outputs. If Zant has yet another magic combined with Ganons then it makes sense.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Thats irrelevant, the point I was making is there is "their old magic", its not just one twili who seems to have magic.
It's confirmed later that Zant was denied the powers of the ruler of the twili, in yet another cutscene.
Show me the cutscene where he was "denied", you may have misinterpreted it. Why would Midna imply or mension Zant "misusing" twili powers if he could not use them in the first place?
Also even assuming Ganon gets the 4+ seconds he needs to call down initial twilight, that vid seems to show it taking a few seconds for twilight to return even after being cast. Its useless in this matchup. Ganon would be better teleporting and swordwielding, hes prob outmatched but its his best bet.
YouTube video
1:40
"But would they accept me as their king? No, and as such I was denied the magic powers befitting our ruler."
"Befitting our ruler", does not look like it says only the ruler can use magic, or only the ruler can use even the rulers magic, as Midna implies one can "misuse" the powers. As I thought youve misinterpreted it as a iron clad statement meaning that nobody can use the magic, but it sounds more like a tradition/ceremonial kind of thing and Midnas anger at Zant misusing the power makes it seem like she thinks hes broken this "taboo".
Originally posted by Burning thoughtI had a laugh. You realise that by feats Ganondorf can solo LoK with his fists, right?
Show me the cutscene where he was "denied", you may have misinterpreted it. Why would Midna imply or mension Zant "misusing" twili powers if he could not use them in the first place?Also even assuming Ganon gets the 4+ seconds he needs to call down initial twilight, that vid seems to show it taking a few seconds for twilight to return even after being cast. Its useless in this matchup. Ganon would be better teleporting and swordwielding, hes prob outmatched but its his best bet.
Originally posted by Burning thought
"Befitting our ruler", does not look like it says [b]only the ruler can use magic, or only the ruler can use even the rulers magic, as Midna implies one can "misuse" the powers. As I thought youve misinterpreted it as a iron clad statement meaning that nobody can use the magic, but it sounds more like a tradition/ceremonial kind of thing and Midnas anger at Zant misusing the power makes it seem like she thinks hes broken this "taboo". [/B]
Do you need to, for the hundredth time, see where Ganondorf confirms he has given some of his power to Zant, and that Ganondorf is the sole source of all of Zant's power?